No, but I could see them at $129. I could also see them up to $199 but I wouldn't be shocked to see them at $129.
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Will 38mm and 42mm be the same price?
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No, but I could see them at $129. I could also see them up to $199 but I wouldn't be shocked to see them at $129.
Agreed. I think it will be
Fluoroelastomer $29
Leather $79
Stainless $129
With higher prices for the edition straps. All of the straps fall into one of those categories, I believe
have a feeling they Will be differently priced as the components in each will be different. Not like they have the same screen but a larger bezel.
Look at the Ipad mini vs Ipad air.
Its an extra $130 Just for an LTE chip.
And from mini to air its 299->499.
I would expect the sport 38 to be the $349, but the 42mm to be $449.
Then the Watch edition 38 would be 499 and 42 would be 599.
So im considering basically I need ~$600 to get the one i want. :/
Look at the Ipad mini vs Ipad air.
Its an extra $130 Just for an LTE chip.
And from mini to air its 299->499.
I would expect the sport 38 to be the $349, but the 42mm to be $449.
Then the Watch edition 38 would be 499 and 42 would be 599.
So im considering basically I need ~$600 to get the one i want. :/
You're gonna need a lot more money than that. The Watch Edition is made of solid gold.
Note he used "edition" in lower case, not "Edition". Honestly, could Apple have used any more confusing of terms to name the collections?
I'm pretty sure he means he wants the Stainless Steel version for ~$600.
This is the problem we face with all our guessing.
Until someone buys a gold one, strips it down, perhaps cuts the case up, in cross section view. None of us really know what "Solid Gold" means in Apple Speak.
We know this is a small device.
We know the top and the bottom are almost all "hole"
That leaves the top square very narrow surround for the screen, and the bottom, slightly wider surround for the circular sensor area.
The side walls, with cut outs being the most "solid" areas of the case.
Its a hollow shell of course, packed with electronics, battery etc.
Until one is cut in half, no one, right now, other than Apple knows what wall thickness it has.
That alone is going to have a MASSIVE bearing on the price of the gold ones.
We are just guessing.
It can't be too thick as there would be no room inside!
But of course if needs to be thick enough not to collapse and dent too easy.
Time will tell, and it will be interesting
It doesn't matter what "Sold Gold" means in Apple Speak, the U.S. FTC has THE final word on the matter regarding Apple's marketing in the U.S. "Solid Gold" is legally defined in the U.S. as:
Everything you want to know about U.S. laws regarding the marketing of gold and silver jewelry can be found here: http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0293-gold-silver-jewelry
So if Apple is marketing the Apple Edition as "18K solid gold," then that is what the case must be to not go afoul of U.S. law.
I think you are confusing "solid gold" for "pure gold." Regardless of how clever and sensible I may or may not be, the U.S. law is clear on what a "solid gold" piece of jewelry must be. The terms I speak of have technical, legal meanings, which not even Apple can sidetrack.
Solid gold is not necessarily pure gold -- usually is not because gold is so soft. Pure gold is 24K; 99.9% pure. Solid gold is an alloy, with the amount of gold purity noted by carats. A carat is 24(mass of pure gold in the alloy/total mass of the material). 18K by definition is not pure gold, but it can be solid gold jewelry.
The Apple Edition, if it's "solid gold" will have a case made 100% of an 18K alloy. If it was hollow it would not be a durable case, or, able to be legally referred to as "solid gold." If the case is a base metal with 18K gold layer bonded onto it, then that is the legal definition of "gold plated,"
I think we are agreeing, it's just the terms we are using.
I agree is will be a solid gold shell of a certain thickness.
When I use the term hollow, I am simply saying the block of gold has to be "hollowed out" so items can fit inside it.
The wall of cold, like the shell of an Easter egg will of course be of solid gold metal.
Were all getting carried away.
Yes, I meant the SS edition - I dont expect the Gold watch to be $600. Thats probably $999 or higher
But SOLID refers to the case. The case will be Solid. Not Plated with gold, with a Stainless steel center. But I would imagine they will still not use much gold (not like Rolex quantities) as even though apple buyers tend to be wealthy, they've never outed a 'Lamborgini' model with real leather and whatnot for 10K. They're reasonable... to a sense. I would peg that at around the cost of a high end 5K desktop model, probably $2-3K fully loaded..
Now how much gold is that? probably around a 1mm thick wall *42mm*42mm.
So based on that, I get a GOLD value of about $400.
Yes, I meant the SS edition - I dont expect the Gold watch to be $600. Thats probably $999 or higher
But SOLID refers to the case. The case will be Solid. Not Plated with gold, with a Stainless steel center. But I would imagine they will still not use much gold (not like Rolex quantities) as even though apple buyers tend to be wealthy, they've never outed a 'Lamborgini' model with real leather and whatnot for 10K. They're reasonable... to a sense. I would peg that at around the cost of a high end 5K desktop model, probably $2-3K fully loaded..
Now how much gold is that? probably around a 1mm thick wall *42mm*42mm.
So based on that, I get a GOLD value of about $400.
Were all getting carried away.
Yes, I meant the SS edition - I dont expect the Gold watch to be $600. Thats probably $999 or higher
But SOLID refers to the case. The case will be Solid. Not Plated with gold, with a Stainless steel center. But I would imagine they will still not use much gold (not like Rolex quantities) as even though apple buyers tend to be wealthy, they've never outed a 'Lamborgini' model with real leather and whatnot for 10K. They're reasonable... to a sense. I would peg that at around the cost of a high end 5K desktop model, probably $2-3K fully loaded..
Now how much gold is that? probably around a 1mm thick wall *42mm*42mm.
So based on that, I get a GOLD value of about $400.
Using my 1mm guestimate, if it was 1mm thick in most areas, I'd place a value of approx. $1200 on the actual gold itself.
Note sure how you are calculating your $400 figure.
Nowhere on Apple's site does it say "solid gold".
"unique formulations of 18-karat yellow and rose gold"
Or just
"18-karat gold"
Solid gold is used to describe things like coins, ornaments or rings. As they are "solid gold" (regardless of their shape) as one poster quoted from US law - "not hollow". Please stop using the term solid gold.
Whoa there.
Hang on a moment, you are directing your complaint at exactly the wrong person here.
It's everyone else that's moaning at me, and telling me I'm wrong as I'm NOT referring to it as solid gold.
THEY ARE... NOT ME !!!
It's not solid, it's a hollow gold shell, I've said that for weeks and keep getting moaned at for stating this fact.
Please aim your complaint at THEM not me !
I know it's not a solid piece of Gold, I keep saying that.
I'm confused as to what your point is. It's either gold plated or solid gold in my eyes. Obviously they aren't shipping chunks of gold shaped like watches, but the casing is indeed solid gold, as opposed to gold plated.