Will apple do something about icloud mail for iOS 15?

[TinaBelcher]

Why is it that difficult for Apple to make the @icloud email server sync with all devices?

My biggest regret was making an @icloud email and realizing that the inbox doesn’t get updated on other devices until I manually open the mail app! For instance, my emails would still be ‘unread’ on my other devices. It’s really sad, cause I’d love to use @icloud and found great use of the alias. But the syncing is horrible, the design and fonts are large and hideous and lifeless... and its so damn slow!! I’ve notice when i tried sending a pdf and some pictures, it could take literally 10+ minutes for it to send and often it would cause an error.

I’ve paid the consequences big time by now being stuck with my @icloud mail being permanently attached to my Apple ID.

I feel like the Apples mail client has always been there for the sake of it, not for actual real purpose and intent.

 

[bilibug]

I've never had the issues you describe with my iCloud email address. In fact, it is the most reliable account I have. The worst are the ones that rely on IMAP, notably Yahoo!, which takes forever to sync read mail status.

Please provide more information about your issues, which devices and email clients you are using. Someone on the forum should be able to help.

 

[Runs For Fun]

I’ve never experienced any of these issues with the Mail app. This sounds like slow internet.

 

[TinaBelcher]

I've never had the issues you describe with my iCloud email address. In fact, it is the most reliable account I have. The worst are the ones that rely on IMAP, notably Yahoo!, which takes forever to sync read mail status.

Please provide more information about your issues, which devices and email clients you are using. Someone on the forum should be able to help.

iPhone, iPad, mac. I used the stock mail. I receive an email, I read it, it continues to be unread on other devices. I have open the email app on the other devices before it updates.

 

[TinaBelcher]

I’ve never experienced any of these issues with the Mail app. This sounds like slow internet.

my internet is very fast.

 

[hg.wells]

What devices are you using it on?

it syncs flawlessly across my Mac, iPad and iPhone.

 

[BrianBaughn]

Your Settings>System Apps>"Passwords & Accounts">Fetch New Data settings are identical (Push switch ON and iCloud account set to Push and the same folders checked) and on all iOS devices and yet you still get this behavior?

I decided to get my own domain name about 20 years ago when Comcast changed my address from @home to @comcast, untying me from any specific email service.

 

[randomgeeza]

Why is it that difficult for Apple to make the @icloud email server sync with all devices?

My biggest regret was making an @icloud email and realizing that the inbox doesn’t get updated on other devices until I manually open the mail app! For instance, my emails would still be ‘unread’ on my other devices. It’s really sad, cause I’d love to use @icloud and found great use of the alias. But the syncing is horrible, the design and fonts are large and hideous and lifeless... and its so damn slow!! I’ve notice when i tried sending a pdf and some pictures, it could take literally 10+ minutes for it to send and often it would cause an error.

I’ve paid the consequences big time by now being stuck with my @icloud mail being permanently attached to my Apple ID.

I feel like the Apples mail client has always been there for the sake of it, not for actual real purpose and intent.

I get the same behaviour. You can read or delete emails on one device, say your iPhone, and the red ticker will stay unchanged on your other devices such as MacBook or iPad. There is no parity between them.

 

[dk001]

Same here.
Seeing the same issues with Messages between a 12PM, IPP 11, and MB.

Lack of proper syncing.

 

[TinaBelcher]

I get the same behaviour. You can read or delete emails on one device, say your iPhone, and the red ticker will stay unchanged on your other devices such as MacBook or iPad. There is no parity between them.

Yes!!!!! And now I can’t even remove my icloud email from my Apple ID, so irritating

 

[HDFan]

I have open the email app on the other devices before it updates.

Er, you would prefer that some email program was always running in the background to pick up changes? This would result in your devices constantly checking mail servers for updates. Your battery life would tank.

Having the email program update when it is opened saves you battery live by avoiding un-needed updates. Makes sense to me.

 

[TimFL1]

Yes!!!!! And now I can’t even remove my icloud email from my Apple ID, so irritating

You can set up forwarding on your iCloud Mail address in case you want to use another provider.

 

[mrochester]

I was very specifically told by Apple that although the Mail status will sync, notifications do NOT. So a notification to say you have a new email and the red dot will remain on all devices until the mail app has been opened (this dismissing the notification).

I don’t know why Apple can’t sync notifications across devices.

 

[one more]

I’ve paid the consequences big time by now being stuck with my @icloud mail being permanently attached to my Apple ID.

I feel like the Apples mail client has always been there for the sake of it, not for actual real purpose and intent.

There are quite big threads on Apple Mail shortcomings. However, I believe you can change your email address “attached” to your Apple ID at any time.

 

[TinaBelcher]

I was very specifically told by Apple that although the Mail status will sync, notifications do NOT. So a notification to say you have a new email and the red dot will remain on all devices until the mail app has been opened (this dismissing the notification).

I don’t know why Apple can’t sync notifications across devices.

This is my issue. thank you. Hilarious people are dismissing me, saying they don’t experience it. this is a a common issue.

 

[TinaBelcher]

There are quite big threads on Apple Mail shortcomings. However, I believe you can change your email address “attached” to your Apple ID at any time.

no, you can add another primary email but you cannot remove your icloud mail, it just turns into an alias that you cannot delete

 

[TinaBelcher]

You can set up forwarding on your iCloud Mail address in case you want to use another provider.

I already did this last year... this is not a solution, cause my icloud mail is still stuck my Apple ID. It’s about dis-attaching the email from the Apple id

 

[mrochester]

This is my issue. thank you. Hilarious people are dismissing me, saying they don’t experience it. this is a a common issue.

The strange thing is Apple are capable of syncing notifications as I believe it works fine for text messages/imessages across devices.

 

[TinaBelcher]

The strange thing is Apple are capable of syncing notifications as I believe it works fine for text messages/imessages across devices.

Exactly. This is why most people like apple products because their whole strength is making your devices sync with each other, including syncing notifications like iMessage but for whatever reason not with email

 

[TinaBelcher]

Er, you would prefer that some email program was always running in the background to pick up changes? This would result in your devices constantly checking mail servers for updates. Your battery life would tank.

Having the email program update when it is opened saves you battery live by avoiding un-needed updates. Makes sense to me.

eh, but you would prefer that some iMessage program was always running in the background to pick up changes? This would result in your device constantly checking the server for updates. Your battery would tank.

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

 

[AeroZ]

eh, but you would prefer that some iMessage program was always running in the background to pick up changes? This would result in your device constantly checking the server for updates. Your battery would tank.

Yeah, that makes sense to me.
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Isn’t “push notifications” supposed to push updates to your device from the server not your device or program constantly checking updates from the server?

 

[BrianBaughn]

I already did this last year... this is not a solution, cause my icloud mail is still stuck my Apple ID. It’s about dis-attaching the email from the Apple id

Either I don't understand what you're complaining about or you don't understand how email hosting works. I don't see anyone ever getting to host an iCloud email address with a different provider.

 

[Steve121178]

Why is it that difficult for Apple to make the @icloud email server sync with all devices?

My biggest regret was making an @icloud email and realizing that the inbox doesn’t get updated on other devices until I manually open the mail app! For instance, my emails would still be ‘unread’ on my other devices. It’s really sad, cause I’d love to use @icloud and found great use of the alias. But the syncing is horrible, the design and fonts are large and hideous and lifeless... and its so damn slow!! I’ve notice when i tried sending a pdf and some pictures, it could take literally 10+ minutes for it to send and often it would cause an error.

I’ve paid the consequences big time by now being stuck with my @icloud mail being permanently attached to my Apple ID.

I feel like the Apples mail client has always been there for the sake of it, not for actual real purpose and intent.

I have the exact same issues you describe. It's infuriating!

 

[Boyd01]

This same issue has bothered me since I can't remember on iOS. I get notifications on my Mac and phone. If I open Mail on the phone and read the message, then it will be immediately marked as read on my Mac - as it should. But not the other way around, if I read the message on my Mac, then it still shows as unread on my iPhone until I actually open the Mail app. Then, even after reading it, often the "badge" on the Mail app still indicates an unread message for awhile.

And something changed with iOS 14 to make it even worse on the iPhone. Now, I get an alert on the home screen that shows a preview of a new mail message. But when I tap the Mail icon, the message isn't on the list and it takes a few seconds for it to actually load. This never happened on earlier versions of iOS, the message was already showing on the list when I opened the Mail app.

Have used my iCloud account for all my mail for over 10 years, am using iOS 14 on a iPhone 12 Pro Max and have fast 400/400 Verizon FIOS internet.

 

[mrochester]

This same issue has bothered me since I can't remember on iOS. I get notifications on my Mac and phone. If I open Mail on the phone and read the message, then it will be immediately marked as read on my Mac - as it should. But not the other way around, if I read the message on my Mac, then it still shows as unread on my iPhone until I actually open the Mail app. Then, even after reading it, often the "badge" on the Mail app still indicates an unread message for awhile.

And something changed with iOS 14 to make it even worse on the iPhone. Now, I get an alert on the home screen that shows a preview of a new mail message. But when I tap the Mail icon, the message isn't on the list and it takes a few seconds for it to actually load. This never happened on earlier versions of iOS, the message was already showing on the list when I opened the Mail app.

Have used my iCloud account for all my mail for over 10 years, am using iOS 14 on a iPhone 12 Pro Max and have fast 400/400 Verizon FIOS internet.

The unread badge will not change on the phone, but the email will be marked as read. That’s what Apple told me.

The unread badge will only clear once the mail app is opened even if the message it’s showing as unread is actually read.