They’re probably making the bezels slimmer so if that’s the case it’s in fact the same form-factor as the current model, like they did for the iPad Pro. I mean, same size, same weight, bigger portable screen, why wouldn’t they? I think it’d be great
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Will Apple ever build the 17 (or 16.5) inch MBP? [Merged]
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They’re probably making the bezels slimmer so if that’s the case it’s in fact the same form-factor as the current model, like they did for the iPad Pro. I mean, same size, same weight, bigger portable screen, why wouldn’t they? I think it’d be great
I have belatedly come to the realisation that while we are all expecting a complete redesign, with the only rumoured spec being a ~16" screen it could literally be a touchbar MacBook pro with just the screen assembly changed out to this bezel-less round corner design... they did a similar if slightly smaller in magnitude hardware change for the 2015 MacBook pro - broadly same chassis but with the ForceTouch trackpad. Until we get any further corroborating rumours suggesting more drastic changes I think we have to pretty much limit expectations to this as a baseline...
"The 17-inch didn't really sell well I'm actually surprised they are going to be coming out with the 16-inch."
If they do increase the display size to 16-16.5", I guess this model will replace the current 15" model. That way, if you want a MBP with "a larger display", you'll HAVE to buy it.
In a similar vein, could we then see a 13.5-14" MacBook Pro -- to similarly replace the current 13" size?
I would guess that if that happens, the 13" panel will remain, but only in the MacBook (non-"pro") models...
If they do increase the display size to 16-16.5", I guess this model will replace the current 15" model. That way, if you want a MBP with "a larger display", you'll HAVE to buy it.
In a similar vein, could we then see a 13.5-14" MacBook Pro -- to similarly replace the current 13" size?
I would guess that if that happens, the 13" panel will remain, but only in the MacBook (non-"pro") models...
I think they'll just add a new 16"-ish model to the lineup as a premium offering.
Tim has shown an extreme propensity for just "adding more options" to every single product line.
If there's a way to add more options, and more potential higher margin products, particularly ones that raise the ASP's, he will do that.
Tim has shown an extreme propensity for just "adding more options" to every single product line.
If there's a way to add more options, and more potential higher margin products, particularly ones that raise the ASP's, he will do that.
I don't disagree w/ this. Ever since he took over, he just kept adding more options and products. I feel quality control and level of reliability that I used to see from apple 5 years ago at least in macs have been suffering since adding more products will disperse the level of resources that they could have allocated instead on making less, but thoroughly-tested, polished products.
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Sure has. It’s not like when Steve was CEO and they killed the 17” MBP, killed Apple displays, killed Airport/Time Capsule, or killed every iPod except the Touch.
Oh wait.
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You may want to check some of your history there..
Steve was effectively "done" with day to day stuff in about 2010 if memory serves
Note the “oh wait” part. I was being sarcastic. They’re all things killed while Tim has been CEO.
It's certainly an opportunity for Apple to set things right and actually deliver a notebook worthy of the MacBook Pro name.
If Apple continues with it's asinine thinner above all else it will simply be another underachieving product. Suffering from more potential reliability issues, limited usability & crippled performance due to inadequate cooling. In effect just the same as now with larger display and potentially worse performance thx to more demanding 8 Core CPU's.
Time will tell...
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If Apple continues with it's asinine thinner above all else it will simply be another underachieving product. Suffering from more potential reliability issues, limited usability & crippled performance due to inadequate cooling. In effect just the same as now with larger display and potentially worse performance thx to more demanding 8 Core CPU's.
Time will tell...
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I think it’s very possible that they increase screen size without making the laptop itself larger, but I doubt this will happen in 2019. Apples design cycle is four years, next one is due in 2020.
If 16.5” means a larger laptop altogether I’m very worried that my beloved 15” will get destroyed in the process. A desktop replacement will kill The MacBook.
If 16.5” means a larger laptop altogether I’m very worried that my beloved 15” will get destroyed in the process. A desktop replacement will kill The MacBook.
I don't know why this piece of misinformation keeps coming up. Let me quote you the title of the MR news item:
16-Inch MacBook Pro With All-New Design Expected in 2019
Now, pray, explain how you can interpret that as 'just a larger screen in the same body'?
The second word in the title of this sites name gives a hint why.
the 17” mbp, w/ hi-res matte display, is the best computer apple has ever made. Jobs & the gang nailed it. The only improvements that I looked forward to were in heat management (which they did eventually do) and the inevitable elimination of the optical drivebay, and then reconfiguring the internals to allow the shape of the unibody enclosure to taper, like the macbook air. a 17” with all the great unique features of that era of macbook pros, and in a slim tapered body... ohhh man.
Instead they just flushed the entire product line down the drain.
oh well.
Instead they just flushed the entire product line down the drain.
oh well.
Because Apple makes a MacBook Pro with all-new design every four years. Don't take the MR headline too seriously. All it indicates that according to some analysts there might be an MBP using a 16.5" panel. There is no information about the chassis size whatsoever.
And by the way, I have just taken a measuring strip and checked the diagonal of the 15" MBP — its exactly 16.5". So they can fit a 16" display without making the chassis larger by eliminating the bezels. Which seems to be a current trend anyway.
“New design” could mean new design language around the screen (rounded corners and thin bezels) - I would just urge caution until we actually get some concrete rumours about what exactly to expect.
The term "new design" could mean anything in relative terms. If you ask an average person he probably cannot tell the difference between the 10.5" iPad Pro from all the previous iPads before it, yet that chassis can qualify as a new design just because of the different bezel ratio. And then the 9.7" iPad Pro almost look identical from previous iPads even, yet the internal improvements also most-def qualify it being a new design.
True could easily be more of the same rubbish we face now. Apple now has opportunity rebrand back to PowerBook whatever just deliver a usable performant solution not another Starbucks impress the kiddies special.
Get back to things working, last thing we want is more excuses why Apple can't, renforced by the iBuyAnything crowd.
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If that counts as a new design, then I'm all in on a 16.5" in the current 15.4" chassis. I'm not so worried about the termals since Apple improved them mid-course with Vega as well. 16.5" and the rest as good as identical to the current models. It's how they launched retina, too. "Look! We made such a big change in the screen that it's not important the internals are the same!"
On the other hand, if Intel gets its thermal paste disaster inside the chips solved in the next version, then I'd definitely want those processors inside. For the rest, the current specs are quite nice already.
Personally I’m fine if this is the case. I like the scale and form factor of the 15” but miss the higher resolution and screen space of the 17”. If Apple can manage a larger display and higher resolution in the same easier to use form factor I’m all for that, more space for ports and cooling would also be very welcome but at this stage I would be very happy to see a larger display. Would love if that display was also 3840x2160 for a 2x retina 1920x1080 with the option to scale to a 3x retina of 1280x720 for those that have a harder time seeing. Could even have a 1.5x retina of 2560x1440 similar to the 1920x1200 mode on the current 15” for those with really good eye sight but really want the extra real estate for app workspace.
I’m fine if it’s 16x9 or 16x10 as long as the resolution increases. 16x10 would be even better but I’m trying not to be greedy.
I'd like something between 1920x1200 and 2560x1440 as I think that the additional space could be used but 2560x1440 would be too much. I don't know if there's a common resolution in-between though.
If Apple starts building MBPs with larger displays, they'd better make both the lids and the bottom cases stronger and heavier.
If they leave things "as they are now"... the larger display may equate to more "flex"... and hence... even more "FlexGate" ...
If they leave things "as they are now"... the larger display may equate to more "flex"... and hence... even more "FlexGate" ...
