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Will Apple ever make a web browser?

Aqua-ish skin

Thought y'all might be interested that a Mozilla scheme was released on 2/15 that looks and acts fairly aqua-ish. Try it out.

In Mozilla, do View:Apply Theme:Get New Themes. Lopburi flat is the first one listed, as it was created most recently. It uses aqua scroll bars, progress bars, and buttons. I like it better than the "Modern" skin.

Chris
 
hm... i dont see how this is "aqua-ish." all of the themes seem to be designed on/for pc users (ie ugly). i use modern. i tried lo fi for awhile mostly because i liked how small it was but like the rest of the theme files it was really buggy and made mozilla quit often.

why dont some of you graphics guys help us all out and make some theme files? lets show those pc morons just what you can do on a mac.

i have a feeling we are going to have to wait for Chimera to get to a useable stage before we have anything good looking though.
 
Chimera is the one

I already started using Chimera on a limited basis..its the fastest browser for Mac OS X to date.. I could not download 0.1.3( Feb 24th), but i downloaded 0.1.2 (Feb 22nd).. ..its a work in progress..
 
Chimera

There is an interesting update on the Chimera page. Looks like version 0.2 is just around the corner. They also confirm that the sneakypeeks of OmniWeb are much faster than 4.1b1.

Chris
 
chmorely: sounds great.

ive always wondered about the numbering in mozilla (and now chimera) betas. what qualifies something as .12 .13 or .2. why the jump from .13 to .2? and as far as mozilla. it doesnt feel like its near completion to me. i mean i use it and like it, but we are at .98 wityh .99 soon. what happens after that? seems like they have to go 1.0 next. how do they decide whats finished? seems like withe nough updates they could reach 1.0 before actually being finished. i know they have everything roadmapped out and have been doing a good job realesing when they say they will but what qualifies each update? seems like they are a few big leaps away from a finished browser.
 
If by August or September -- whenever the M$ <-> Apple deal expires, m$ get rid of their Mac development team, i think only then will we see an apple browser...
 
Originally posted by j763
If by August or September -- whenever the M$ <-> Apple deal expires, m$ get rid of their Mac development team, i think only then will we see an apple browser...
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do you really think ms will get rid of its mac dev team. they just started to do some good stuff and ms took a lot of time and effort to build that team. also seems like they are reaping some benefits from this.

we all keep hypothesizing about apple buying omniweb, or using mozilla. maybe apple could buy the ms mac dev team? hm, sounds as ridiculous when i wrote as it sounded in my head. but hey stranger things have happened right? an apple browser based on ie... hm, not sure what to think about that one.
 
netscape 6 is too much of everything these days

ie ain't bad, but sometimes seems slow

but an apple browser on both platforms would be great and i would definitely use it as my default
 
Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon


do you really think ms will get rid of its mac dev team.
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I don't think it's likely -- no. What i was saying was that Apple won't compete in the same market space as Microsoft UNLESS M$ abandons the Apple platform... The only other way we'd see an apple browser would be if they charged $$$ for it and didn't bundle it with OS X...

Just my .02
 
OmniWeb and Chimera

I have been checking out a) the sneakypeeks of OmniWeb and b) their development team's entries at their web site. A) OmniWeb is pretty close to being fast enough and compliant enough to become my first choice browser. Maybe by 4.1 final release. B) Those guys are impressive. I have changed my mind. I have become convinced they have what it takes to make OW the best browser on OS X. Check out the development team info at their website. I even found a good icon for Chimera (oddly enough). Check out http://www.icons.cx/ AL. Their dragons seemed appropos.

Having said that, I think they're going to get stiff competition from Chimera. I am using it more and more--even at version 0.13.

The good news is, it looks like we will have two *great* alternatives to ie and NS/Mozilla before too long. As much as I like Mozilla, we all know Apple needs more apps that utilize Quartz anti-aliasing. OW does, and Chimera promises to. And geez Gecko (the rendering engine shared by NS, Mozilla, and Chimera) is fast fast fast.

It's getting better. It will bet even better by summer. I betcha.

Chris
 
chmorely: i have to say you and alpha are shaping up to be my favorite two people here. just bursting with info. you rule.

just checked out those dragons. they might do. i made a black and white one of my own, but id like the color in these. which one did you sue im thinking blue or inegg2. dragon friend would be cool if it was more in the blue theme (all my dock icons are moving towards an aqua theme).

i havent check out omni since version 332.

i hope omni and chimera go head to head soon. it would be nice to see an arms race between these too.

i agree that soon we will have some very intereting choices.

anyone been to the chimera website lately? looks like they took down the .2 announcement. anyone know why?
 
I am actually using MarginGreen. I had started off using something else (I forget which), but ended up liking that one best.

The Chimera website looks the same to me--although I confess that I miss details like that sometimes. The first line seems the same, though.

I love the tabs on Chimera. I wish other browsers used that instead of spawning a new browser every time a new window is needed.

I am using OW 332 right now. It's not too bad.

Chris
 
At the Chimera website, there was a link to installation instructions... It talked about installing Fink and Mozilla... I just ignored it and downloaded the disk image and copied the app... I am finding that Chimera dosen't support some types of tables, form submissions etc. I know that Chimera is in beta, but is this a result of me not installing Mozilla??
 
My Icons

Well after trying convince the more graphically inclines folks here to make an icon for chimera i decided to try myself. here is a link to my chimera icon, my mozilla icon, and the psd file incase you would like to play around with them. link

sorry no preview, but the files are small so hopefully you guys will take a peek.

Hopefully my weak attempt will inspire some more talented people to take a shot at it... [hint hint]
 
AmbitiousLemon -- logo is cool, now i'm not embarrased to put Chimera on my dock. At the moment, I'm using both Chimera and IE. First I use Chimera and if it can't handle something, I (reluctantly) open up IE and go to that page. I can't wait for the next version of Chimera to come out.

But I always wish that Apple kept CyberDog going and that CyberDog v.X existed... oh well... if m$ drops support for ie on mac, this september then maybe we will...:D
 
Mozilla 0.9.9

It's out. I can't really tell much difference yet, but the specs at Versiontracker look pretty good.

Also (and the real reason I am posting), I found a cool thing in Mozilla y'all might be interested in. First, you may have found that you can open new tabs in a browser window by hitting command-t. I think this is far superior to opening a whole new browser window. I was playing around and found that you can open a new tab by dragging and dropping a link in the tab bar. While you could do the same thing by control-clicking a link, it's cool that Mozilla is incorporating drag and drop stuff.

While this isn't new to 0.9.9, it works in the new version as well as 0.9.8 (and probably older versions).

Chris
 
i found a couple of good links.

this guy does his own weekly mozilla builds (as well as other things). His seem to work much faster.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php3?threadid=2985&goto=newpost

and one of the links at his site has an aquaish skin. Its not complete, but its better than nothing. the tabs are still ugly and the buttons are still modern. but the rest is fairly aquaish.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php3?threadid=2985&goto=newpost

see my screen shot in the what does your desktop look like to see a bit of the skin in action.

with so many talented artists here im surprised none of you have made an aqua skin for mozilla of your own. but i guess thats because people around here are more talk than anything else.
 
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