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Will Apple Quietly Let the Mac Mini Go?
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Not true. Not even close.
No, my post is based ON FACTS, on numbers published by sellers. It does not matter what is the proportion represented by Amazon and B&H(by the way, macmall and others have similar numbers) The fact that some of the largest Apple sellers have macmini as number one selling machine demonstrates that it is very popular. Your post is based on suppositions.....
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Yea right. Those are just some numbers throw in by an Apple tolerated company. Apple does not publish this numbers, EVER. I am talking about actual FACTS, NUMBERS PUBISHED BY SELLERS like Amazon, B&H photo and resselers all over US and Europe. If you start to investigate by your self those numbers you will see that in those shops that publish this numbers mac mini is no.1 selling machine in more then 90% of them. Now, this are REAL SELL NUMBERS NOT SOME B***T ESTIMATES.
Apple seems pretty hard core (pardon the choice of wording) on how they position hardware against competitors and within their own market. Maybe it is time for the Mac Mini to grow up and be the "other" headless computer for those of us who wont venture into the Mac (Mini) Pro.
This would give us two camps - all in one iMac and then the Mac Mini/nMP groups. Most people who jump ship on PCs go for the iMac (from what I see at Apple stores and among people I know. While this is a rather minimal sampling, I would venture to say it is more universal. Mac Mini seems to be for a select market and not the one Apple intended (get PC users to the Apple family).
For me, the ideal Mac Mini might be about 2x the height and offer some more items - choice of onboard GPU (Iris Pro) and onboard plus additional NVidia. Perhaps consider a more free to play with build set up with "slots" for two 2.5 drives that can be inserted from the outside (cover with a couple of screws would be fine). Though express cards have fallen much to the side, the notion remains a good one to simply insert the connectivity one wants without having to expand the footprint with a bunch of externals. This for me would be ideal.
Hopefully.
I'm no expert in the business, but I'm in the market to replace my 06 24 in iMac, and contemplating either a 27in iMac, spec'ed out, or a mini, spec'd out with a 27 in display.
I understand that there is a replacement/refresh for the mini due, and what I hope for, is essentially the new Pro but with a collection of consumer rather than pro grade componentry, 2 HD bays, and 2+ 1866Mhz dimm slots. as good as Iris seems to be, I'd prefer a dedicated video card. If such a machine existed, were $700ish in base config and around $2k spec'd out, I'm sure it'd be a hit, especially with the advent of 4k and 8k TVs which also means, 4k camcorders and 4k video editing is liable to be the kind of activity that regular people will have and be doing in their homes.
I'm no expert in the business, but I'm in the market to replace my 06 24 in iMac, and contemplating either a 27in iMac, spec'ed out, or a mini, spec'd out with a 27 in display.
I understand that there is a replacement/refresh for the mini due, and what I hope for, is essentially the new Pro but with a collection of consumer rather than pro grade componentry, 2 HD bays, and 2+ 1866Mhz dimm slots. as good as Iris seems to be, I'd prefer a dedicated video card. If such a machine existed, were $700ish in base config and around $2k spec'd out, I'm sure it'd be a hit, especially with the advent of 4k and 8k TVs which also means, 4k camcorders and 4k video editing is liable to be the kind of activity that regular people will have and be doing in their homes.
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No, your post is based on conjecture drawn from incomplete data from some retailers who account for a percentage of total Apple sales that is so small that it is not representative of the entire product line performance. Apple notebooks outsell desktops by roughly a 3 to 1 margin, as evidenced by numbers that Apple does publish in its annual reports. Anyone with any familiarity with Apple sales knows that the Mac mini isn't even close to being the number one Mac model.
That's exactly what I want. Bigger than the current mini with dedicated graphics, but not as niche (expensive) as the nMP. If what you were describing existed I'd buy it yesterday.
- 2 2,5 inch drive bays
- Dedicated GPU
- Quick Haswell release
You HAVE to remove 1 aspect from the want list. Then things are possible. If all wait for Broadwell, Apple can do a lazy update (just a new MOBO with Broadwell and either better Iris or another Nvidia/AMD GPU)
They should remove the 2,5" bays, I prefer a Mac Mini with flash storage. Actually for me the perfect Mac Mini would be:
* Haswell CPU with Iris Pro
* PCI-e flash storage (up to 1TB)
* 32GB RAM support (soldered is fine)
* Better (quieter) cooling
I wonder if I'm the only person not interested in upgradability but only performance (for a reasonable price).
I could live with lack of upgradeability if it had high-end dedicated graphics. Not interested in Xeon, Core i7 is good enough and 32GB would be great too.
no the 2.5 inch drives and upgradeability are important, they make the mini what it is (any why so many like it). For all who want more power - the new Mac Pro just came out!
The upgradeability is the heart of the current mini. You can use it with dual discs as Server, you can build your own High End System or just use the (cheap) entry level as first mac/media/backup server
I could live with an optional PCIe SSD but for me (and I think many others) the HDD is still an important part!
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I hope you are kidding
The upgradeability is the heart of the current mini. You can use it with dual discs as Server, you can build your own High End System or just use the (cheap) entry level as first mac/media/backup server
I could live with an optional PCIe SSD but for me (and I think many others) the HDD is still an important part!
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I hope you are kidding
I'm of two minds on this. It's really cool that current gen minis can be raid 0'd to match the speed of PCIe. Otoh, if you're designing a machine from scratch, why not have actual PCIe speed. And if the goal is two partitions, this can be done with a single drive. The question then, for most users is, is twice the max internal capacity worth that much (1GB vs 2GB)?
In apples case, is that extra capacity worth not doing whatever crazy design a single PCIe makes possible? Or put another way, are the features we now associate with the mini, present only because it's the only model not yet updated to the current tech?
No, FACTS, data PUBLICLY available. If you can't see it, well, not my fault. And by the way we discuss about mac mini witch is a desktop, why you keep telling me about laptops? And Apple NEVER disclose it's selling numbers by category. My first machine was an g3, so i know a thing or two about Apple.... My guess is Apple is trying to redesign the machine, and solder some components. At least they will solder RAM as in iMac. I don't think we will see some new model before WWDC.
I agree the current level of upgradability is important and I wouldn't be too upset if I had to forgo some of this for dedicated graphics, but in an ideal world I would like 2.5" drives that are easy to access, dedicated graphics and access to the ram slots.
I totally disagree with the argument 'for all who want more power - the new mac pro just came out'. There is a HUGE price gap between the mini and the nMP, and no I don't want an iMac before anyone suggests that ;o) I think there is space in the product line up for the mini, mac pro and a 'mac', i.e. a product that sits between the two
There is no iMac with soldered RAM. !!
It is just not easy to get to it (21,5")
Don't know why people aways think it is soldered, someone must have created that rumor, lol.
If the Mini was twice the height, it would be easy enough to have a door latch that opened to slots where 2.5" drives could be inserted. This would allow people to customize their Mini quickly. I prefer this over direct PCIe "cards" (unless that is what the slots are made for and 3rd party can start to build).
Dedicated graphics may not seem like something of use to some but to others it allows the Mini to really be exploited quite well for many applications. Apple seems to insist on forcing ATI graphics on a world that is mostly non-ATI (open CL) oriented. This has reduced the nMP customer base as readily seen on various forum threads on the Internet.
32 Gigs of RAM would be excellent along with two TB2 ports, HDMI and of course USB3 x4.
The alternative perhaps might be two slots which can either be a PCIe drive card OR select a GPU offering. I doubt that would be possible but sure sounds like a more mature system to me.
Dedicated graphics may not seem like something of use to some but to others it allows the Mini to really be exploited quite well for many applications. Apple seems to insist on forcing ATI graphics on a world that is mostly non-ATI (open CL) oriented. This has reduced the nMP customer base as readily seen on various forum threads on the Internet.
32 Gigs of RAM would be excellent along with two TB2 ports, HDMI and of course USB3 x4.
The alternative perhaps might be two slots which can either be a PCIe drive card OR select a GPU offering. I doubt that would be possible but sure sounds like a more mature system to me.
You must have missed the part about the annual reports. You are living in fantasy land. He mentioned laptops because you were trying to make the claim that the Mac Mini is the best selling Mac. Are the MBPs and MBAs not Macs as well? Because your first Apple was a G3 means nothing about your knowledge of Apple. We owned an Apple in the late 80s, does that mean I know more than you? Nope. I do know that you have got to be far off from correct.
Think of how many people you know with a Mac, and now how many of them have Minis? Personally, I don't know a single person with one...but countless MBPs, Airs, and iMacs.
I don't know where you're from, but your grammar suggests not the USA. I've never seen a Mac Mini in any of the colleges I've been to...all iMacs and Mac Pros. Where you're from, that may be different though.
You keep saying that, but it's completely false. From the 2012 Annual Report, which are always available to the public:
He may try and claim that Amazon's top seller list is more credible. After all, he did have a G3.
Kinda like, "My mind's made up. Don't confuse me with the facts."
He says he understands Apple, but yet doesn't understand why a $600 device isn't top of the line it seems. This is in another thread:
And where are the sales by category????? Because we are not talking about how manny macs are sold, but how manny macmini? So, again, Apple does not disclosed EVER how manny macs from a particular type sold. So again, just facts.....
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I answered you in that discussion thread, and so did numerous other folks. So go ahead and re-read answers untill you understand them. Not my fault you are a hard at understanding things.
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I don't have time to show you all the sites, but just do a research. There is a little thing called Google folks.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Desktops/ci/18817/N/4110474299
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...s/electronics/565098/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_2_541966
Ans so on. Not only the mini is the best selling Apple desktop(WHERE NUMBERS ARE PUBLISHED, SO FACTS NOT TALKS) but is one of the best selling computers all over the place. So just do you homeworks before claim that Apple will discontinue the machine. I am done with this thread i need to actual work for my living....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Desktops/ci/18817/N/4110474299
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...s/electronics/565098/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_2_541966
Ans so on. Not only the mini is the best selling Apple desktop(WHERE NUMBERS ARE PUBLISHED, SO FACTS NOT TALKS) but is one of the best selling computers all over the place. So just do you homeworks before claim that Apple will discontinue the machine. I am done with this thread i need to actual work for my living....
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The category is desktops or portables. Mac mini, iMac, etc. are Mac models, not categories. It's obvious that Apple sells far more notebooks than desktops, so it's also obvious to a moderately informed observer that the Mac mini is clearly not Apple's number one seller. You are simply misinformed, having drawn conclusions from incomplete data provided by third parties who are not privvy to all of Apple's sales information. While the Mac mini may be the top seller by a particular retailer, that does not mean that it is the number one model sold worldwide by Apple.
To put an end to this nonsense:
Phil Schiller, Apple Senior Vice President, Worldwide Marketing
Apple Special Event - October 23, 2012 at 15:36 into the event.
At about 26:51 into the address, he also states that the iMac -- not the Mac mini -- is the #1 selling desktop in the U.S., and that's not just Apple's #1, but the #1 selling desktop of any brand in the U.S.