All they have to do is add the black colour to the SE and they would have my money. I was kind of hoping that they were going to do that during the iPhone event. The specs are all good enough for me right now because I will keep the 7 as my main and the SE as a back up/secondary line.
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Will Apple update the SE?
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If only, I'm sure that'd better pay than what I do - or at least be more interesting.
I'm just intruiged to hear other views, and if it sparks a dialogue all the better.
I hope so. Only because I'm not ready to buy it now, but will be in another year.
I really miss having a phone that is so easy to use one handed and so pocket friendly. I miss having a phone that doesn't feel so fragile.
But in another year's time, I'll have been using the 6S hardware for a year, so if I'm buying an SE, I'll be hoping for a spec bump, 3D touch (iOS 10 is doing good things with it), matte black and 256gb. I think that would then be my ultimate phone and I wouldn't change again until it died.
My theory is though, that the next real iPhone redesign (either next year or the year after) will have the three sizes available and the SE won't be touched until then.
I really miss having a phone that is so easy to use one handed and so pocket friendly. I miss having a phone that doesn't feel so fragile.
But in another year's time, I'll have been using the 6S hardware for a year, so if I'm buying an SE, I'll be hoping for a spec bump, 3D touch (iOS 10 is doing good things with it), matte black and 256gb. I think that would then be my ultimate phone and I wouldn't change again until it died.
My theory is though, that the next real iPhone redesign (either next year or the year after) will have the three sizes available and the SE won't be touched until then.
I'd like to see:
A10
Waterproof
3D Touch
New colors
Not that I'd want it, but I can see them removing the headphone jack.
A10
Waterproof
3D Touch
New colors
Not that I'd want it, but I can see them removing the headphone jack.
I hope that's not the case. It's not really about the body size; it's mainly the 4" screen size that allows for solid one-handed use. Increasing the screen size to 4.7" and getting rid of the bezels (mainly the top/bottom bezels which really have no effect on one-handed use) would only make it harder to use one-handed, because your thumb has to reach further.
Yep, I heard they are hard at work putting a 5S chip in a iPhone 4 body.
Don't throw away those iPhone 4 cases yet! The iPhone Super SE is coming soon!
This was bad news 
I really had hoped that they would release a new upgraded iPhone SE this spring but when reading your comments it seems unlikely. It would be great with a 4-4,3 inch top end smartphone, eventually we'll get there!
I really had hoped that they would release a new upgraded iPhone SE this spring but when reading your comments it seems unlikely. It would be great with a 4-4,3 inch top end smartphone, eventually we'll get there!
I hope they give us a top 4inch as well. Apple is the only manufacturer actually making fast small phones. I hope they don't abandon us who will pay top dollar for a premium smaller phone. I'm on a 6 128GB and want to upgrade to another iphone with 256GB (got about 20gb left on my phone). However the iPhone 7 does not interest me much now, and really just holding on for a proper 4" iPhone with a large amount of storage.
I don't understand you guys. SE is still fresh. It has an awesome CPU , 2gb RAM, a beautiful design (in my opinion) and it's running strong.
Do you already want an update? Do you even enjoy your devices ?
Do you already want an update? Do you even enjoy your devices ?
This is the Apple market. People buy the current model as a temporary phone while they wait for the new model. They buy that one, and use it for only as long as it takes for the next model to come out.
It's not about buying what meets your needs. It's about always getting a new model as fast as you can. The latest is never good enough. There's always a desperate want for more, newer, faster, etc.
This has been the pattern in Apple products for decades. It's this insatiable appetite and continual replacement (needed or not) that keeps Apple so profitable.
Most people buy what they need, and use it until it doesn't do what they need anymore. And then there's the Apple market.....
The substantial number of people here using iPhone 5, 5c, and 5s suggests that this is not the case for all Apple users.
I value Apple's continued iOS support for older phones as it extends the usable life of iPhones versus the competition.
Fresh on the inside, but essentially a 4 year old design, arguably missing a few features.
to be fair; this is not just apple, this is every tech company.
Tv manufacturers are especially guilty of this.
3D! Its the next big thing! Except it wasn't...
Or is it Smart TV? Or 4K? Or 4K HDR?
Every year or two there's this new gimmick that gets pushed out to drive sales
Not sure if will be updated on a yearly cycle, but I guess it will receive internal updates again in the future. iPhone SE proved that there's still a market for 4 inches phones, that boost sales in low seasons/countries with lower incomes. I wish the update it every spring.
I enjoy my iPhone 5S very well and that's why I'm not sure if I'm gonna buy the SE.
I would love to be able to buy a 4 inch Apple phone with water resistance. I believe it will make it easier to keep the phone clean and I would love the freedom in general not having to worry about water. The perfect phone for me would be a 4 inch (maybe little bit bigger display) with everything that the regular iPhone have and I would have no trouble paying as much for it as the regular iPhone.
Wouldn't surprise me if the SE was a one off, Apple relying on the smaller bodied 4.7" next year to placate those that still want a small phone.
If they did update the SE alongside existing lines, prob a 2 year cycle. As much as it may hurt the feelings of the 4" crowd, they're low on the list of Apple's priorities. Don't shoot the messenger.
If they did update the SE alongside existing lines, prob a 2 year cycle. As much as it may hurt the feelings of the 4" crowd, they're low on the list of Apple's priorities. Don't shoot the messenger.
Not everyone here wondering about an SE update has an SE now. If anyone here is like me, they are holding off on buying the SE until they know whether or not it's going to be updated soon, and if so, with what features.
But as for people who currently have the SE and are hoping for an update soon, I can still understand their position. There are a lot of great features exclusive to the 6s and now 7 that would be extremely useful if only they were on a 4" phone. Extremely useful. If I had an SE I'd be wondering how long I'd have to wait to upgrade too, though maybe not anxiously.
But I get the impression most of the people here are like me and are wondering if and when to buy the SE.
I think SE will continue in some form. It's a better phone for kids (grip wise) and it's also more cost efficient. I've seen many parents buy se for their kids so they can keep in touch while they're at after school programs or camps, or just out with their friends.
I also see it being an affordable option for those who do not want to drop $600-900 on a phone pretax, even if it's spread over a series of months.
AND there are just some who plain love the size (I don't understand this, but I respect and acknowledge their personal preference).
I also see it being an affordable option for those who do not want to drop $600-900 on a phone pretax, even if it's spread over a series of months.
AND there are just some who plain love the size (I don't understand this, but I respect and acknowledge their personal preference).
Very well said. That's exactly where I'm at, I don't have a SE and I'm thinking about buying one. Would love to have a few more features that the iPhone 7 has but in a smaller 4" package.
I'm one of those who love the size. It's the perfect size for me. I've tried bigger phones 5,1" and 5,5" but it's not for me.
It would appear you're right with the apparent focus and popularity of the bigger iPhones. But one thing that bothered me is that we never really knew if it was only the size of the phones that made them so popular. There was no controlled test. The only new iPhones were the bigger ones. It would have been much more conclusive if all 3 sizes of the phones were released at the same time with the exact same specs and prices. That would have never happened and never will of course, in any mobile phone company. I suppose the other way is to simply take a large poll. Anybody know of any?
You didn't ask but I'll give you my perspective...
Basically someone who loves the size of the 4" screen feels that (A) one-handed use and easier pocket-ability outweighs (B) a bigger screen. As such a person, this is my reasoning:
- I really want something that I use as often as my phone to be used comfortably and securely with one hand; not having to stop walking to use it, not having to put things down to use it, not having to balance it in one hand, not worrying about it falling if I take a wrong step or someone bumps my elbow. One-handed usability is always better when we can have it, and I think that in this non-ideal, unpredictable, on-the-go world, it's very important on a phone.
- I really don't like having anything in my pocket. I do because I have to, but the bigger the worse.
- Bigger screens are better when you're doing things like web surfing, reading, watching videos, or looking at photos; that's indisputable. I could see if you do those things often enough on your phone (because an iPad is not handy or if you simply don't use iPads), then a bigger screen would be valuable. But here's where I differ (I don't know what the case is for other 4" phone users): I don't often do those things outside of the house; for me they're almost exclusively done inside the house (and either on my iPad, computer, or TV), and very intentionally so. It's mainly because of two preferences I have in life: I like to have as much face to face human interaction as possible, and I like to be as aware of my environment as I can be. These "philosophies" apply mainly outside the home because home is a known, private, and controlled environment. Smartphones are extremely useful, but they're also riddled with distractions. So when I'm out of my house, I try to use my phone as minimally as possible. Quick lookups, quick emails, etc., very rarely spending any substanitial amount of time looking at my screen (unless perhaps it's work-related). Then when I get home on my comfy couch, I read/watch/type away on whichever device is best suited for the job, which is usually not my phone. This makes a big iPhone screen simply not very important to me.
OK. I am glad that I am not in that category and when I am buying a device I am enjoying it until it dies ( no updates,no support etc, low performance).
I can't understand why I would buy an Iphone and after 2 days I yell in the middle of the street : I WANT ANOTHER IPHONE REDESIGNED AND WITH MORE FEATUUUUURES . / (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
And this argument: 4 years old design is irrelevant.. I love that the old 5s design it's still on sale. More diversity and a design never gets old in my opinion.
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That's cool.
My hands aren't huge but fingers long so the tips just wrap around the edge of the phone when I grip it with one hand. The size doesn't deter me.
Coming from 5s and 6, I appreciate the screen size because I do almost everything with my iPhone. Shoot photos/video, edit and upload straight from it... so screen size is important to me.
But if we all had the same phone, it would be a boring world