see my comment directly above yours. Hope my waiting and 'anxiety' are not all in vain.
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Will Apple's March Event be a big splash for M2?
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Does it matter; could you bear the embarrassment of having an antique OS?
I understand that Apple Marketing's Clown division has seen a market for very affluent teenagers etc. who are obsessed with the notion that size matters; so we may see laptops with various slots in the base where extra RAM may be installed to add up to an extra 40 or so GB; with a minimum of four corner slots to commence with; this would also assist marketing in that the external RAM would provide extra ventilation.
I presume your indicating that the questioner is highly unlikely to comprehend the sarcasm; it is the lowest form of wit but does have a place when used in moderation.
When is that soon? That is the question we are all wondering. Some are even saying low end M2 will come before this, which is crazy. But who knows? We just have to wait and see.
Not going to happen till the high end iMacs get M1.
Why would Apple release an iMac with a better single core performance now and a weaker single core performance later? Sure multicore, memory bandwidth etc etc is all better on the Pro/Max but still that is my opinion. M2 on iMac is off the table till the high end get M1 first.
It's not, not on this scale anyway. How much does the current 16" MBP with M1 Max draw in high power mode under full load? 110W at best?
Nobody would give a damn about a stationary iMac/Mac mini/Mac Pro drawing 220W if it meant double the power.
If anything, people care about power efficiency but if the stationary Mac drawing 220W offers twice as much computing power, then that machine wouldn't be any less efficient.
Actually a lot of people would be concerned about this. If the average user used 100% of that double power then sure they would love it. Most people do not though. The average user barely pushes a low end M1 to it's max limits.
Why bother with this when you can have a more efficient Mac which uses less electricity and still get everything you need done with power to spare.
The prosumers think as you do, but the average user would prefer a lower powerbill and not have an overkill machine they will never fully utilise.
Yes, but when speaking about Apple ARM - all the CPUs M1, M1 Pro or Max use the same amount of power when doing trivial things, thus it will not increase bills or energy usage.
That could be a reason with Intel/AMD cpus, because their power hungry processors indeed use more energy to do the same thing when compared to lower end processors. Even then, doing office things at a rental property, I was paying cents for the electricity - owners were scratching their head on why I use so less of an energy?! So unless you do crypto mining, then there is no increased power consumption.
So… the Mac Pro is not meant for the average user though. They’re not talking about the Air here. They’re talking about the higher-end desktop machines.
Two things:
- Just because it can draw up to 220W (potentially) doesn‘t mean it always does. Compare the power draw of an M1 Max with the power draw of a M1 when idling or doing basic web browsing and such.
- Nobody wants Apple to stuff a performance monster like this into every single Mac. All he said is they should make this available. Some people would definitely want the power. Being able to do your work in less time would be a godsend for some people and they really would not care about 100W-150W extra.
I am sitting here with eleven Firefox tabs open (eight various news feeds, one FB, one music, and one MacRumors) & Discord, my 5900X system (with a weak-sauce Nvidia GTX 650 Ti / 2GB VRAM) is pulling around 165W (according to my UPS)...
I would be super happy with a M1 Max Mac mini that would have to be driven HARD to come close to using 2/3rds of the 150W provided by the Mac mini PSU...
I would be super happy with a M1 Max Mac mini that would have to be driven HARD to come close to using 2/3rds of the 150W provided by the Mac mini PSU...
The regular person you described would just get the base chip in that Mac, and would not upgrade to or buy the the M1-Super double power chip; while the user who values performance above all else would get the M1-Super.
Very true as you and others have said. Also I am sure the prosumer/super user would prefer raw power over efficiency.
However in my opinion I still think efficiency still has a place in the high end. Apple is not going to release water cooled behemoths that are hot, noisy and electricity hungry just to have the power gains.
They can announce multiple products at an event. It doesn’t have to be just something visual, if that’s what that means. But like most event announcements, apple is extremely vague and their marketing usually has multiple meanings. In no way would I rule out M-related products simply because they used “peek” in the marketing.
If anything, the combination of peek & performance would indicate a sneak peek of future performance, so a peek at the performance of the dual (and possible quad) M1 Max SoCs in the forthcoming ASi Mac Pro (Cube), so definitely M-related...! ;^p
If you consider PEEK in a programming sense, it could be the hint that M-Series products are being released.
I mean we could go as far as stretching it to mean new monitors I suppose, but yeah I think there will be at least a few different products that might match the tagline in their own way.
Curious about the M2 efficiency, really love my 14" with 8-10H battery but do miss having more from my Air with 12-13h especially when I'm working on the move.
I do notice that until they fix Teams I'll be just draining my battery day in and out.
I do notice that until they fix Teams I'll be just draining my battery day in and out.
It just means that Apple is going to release MacBASIC. Finally.
Not sure what you're trying to say here, or how the two sentences are related..?
The M2 will almost certainly be faster in single-core speed, but will definitely be *slower* in multi-core workloads. Why? The M2 will (probably) have the same 4 performance + 4 efficiency cores. An efficiency core has about one-fifth of the processing power of a performance-core, so overall the multi-core performance is about the equivalent of 5 performance cores. The 10-core M1 Pro has 8 performance cores + 2 efficiency cores.
The M2 cores would need to be over 70% more performant than M1 Pro cores in order to make the M2 faster overall. This is very unlikely. 10-15% faster is possible.
Any of the Apple Silicon SoCs will be hugely faster than a 2013 MBP - from the lowest spec M1 to the top-end M1 Max or future M2 variants.
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