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which story was more epic "lost in a bar" or "picture in an elevator"


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Anthony T

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Earlier today Gizmodo made a post titled “This is Apple’s Next iPhone”. They claim that the iPhone they have was found in a bar in Redwood City. To make matters worse, they are just assuming that this really is a prototype based on the fact that they saw multiple components in the iPhone that were labeled Apple. Sorry to rain on your parade Gizmodo, but your iPhone is a fake. That explains why it doesn’t boot up, and why you can’t connect it to iTunes and download even the beta version of iPhone OS 4.0 software to it. Someone most likely took out the components from the current iPhone, placed them in a fake Chinese iPhone clone and sent it to you. I just contacted one of my sources who has had actual hands on experience with a prototype of the new iPhone, and he has confirmed that this prototype is nowhere close to what the real iPhone 4G looks like and it’s a FAKE. I’m talking to my source again right now and am trying to get more information out of him, but I may not be able to reveal much as his career is at stake here. Stay tuned!

http://www.iphonestalk.com/gizmodo-has-iphone-4g-its-a-fake/
 
I like the "source" reference. That can be used to come up with any crap they want to print. My source (the guy in the pizza store) told me the new iPhone would have two batteries, a quad core, and really small fans to cool it off.
 
That's the worst reasoning I've ever heard, besides the classic, "Apple would NEVER make something so ugly :rolleyes:"

:)
 
+1. Gizmodo could not show the apple logo on the screen because it's a fake. If not, why does he not show the itunes screen?
 
Mr. X strikes again!

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I wish they would at least announce the date(s) of WWDC already. They should be soon, right?

Or even better, end all of this speculation by moving up the WWDC and release date to May. :D
 
haha they are all talk, until they post pics or evidence.

Edit: well, its a pretty sleek, gorgeous, perfectly finished, high quality fake then ;)



I personally would love this style. It looks great to my eyes. Who knows though. I'm personally of the opinion that it was an Apple engineered leak, otherwise they would be ALLLL over them
 
+1. Gizmodo could not show the apple logo on the screen because it's a fake. If not, why does he not show the itunes screen?

You should have took your medicine today.

Anyone that still thinks it is fake has some serious issues at hand.
 
I personally would love this style. It looks great to my eyes. Who knows though. I'm personally of the opinion that it was an Apple engineered leak, otherwise they would be ALLLL over them

I think the new design is far better than all previous iphones, i mean look at the other phones on the market. they are all looking pretty similar now. things need to be spiced up! this is going to be big!!
 
I am convinced by the Gizmodo story for the following reasons:

1) A phone with a nearly-identical appearance was photographed by a Chinese iPhone rumors site.

2) The internal components are polished, professionally-designed, and clearly fitted to this prototype's case.

3) Gizmodo's videos prove that this is not a rendering or Photoshopped.

4) Gizmodo is an established site with a lot to lose if it is found to have perpetrated a hoax. There is no way that their short-term gain from a few million hits would outweigh the long-term damage to their reputation.

5) Creating a fake or decoy which would fool the tech-savvy folks at Gizmodo when they have unlimited physical access to the device and the ability to do a complete teardown would be prohibitively expensive, even supposing someone (Apple?) the ability to do so. I cannot posit any motive for Apple in doing this that would even approach justifying the cost. And, whatever his other quirks, Steve Jobs is definitely a bottom-line kind of guy.
 
but were missing something, the hardware specs

every other tear down reveals what chips are in there, why not this time

Because they've got a once-in-a-lifetime scoop and their not dumb enough to blow their wad on a single story? They gave us enough to convince most of us but keep us coming back for more.
 
Earlier today Gizmodo made a post titled “This is Apple’s Next iPhone”. You can see a photo of it above this text. They claim that the iPhone they have was found in a bar in Redwood City. To make matters worse, they are just assuming that this really is a prototype based on the fact that they saw multiple components in the iPhone that were labeled Apple. Sorry to rain on your parade Gizmodo, but your iPhone is a fake. That explains why it doesn’t boot up, and why you can’t connect it to iTunes and download even the beta version of iPhone OS 4.0 software to it. Someone most likely took out the components from the current iPhone, placed them in a fake Chinese iPhone clone and sent it to you. I just contacted one of my sources who has had actual hands on experience with a prototype of the new iPhone, and he has confirmed that this prototype is nowhere close to what the real iPhone 4G looks like and it’s a FAKE. I’m talking to my source again right now and am trying to get more information out of him, but I may not be able to reveal much as his career is at stake here. Stay tuned!

1 - The author contradicted themself in their own article. First, they say it's a fake, or else they can connect to iTunes and download 4.0 Beta for the device. Then, they say someone took the components out of a 3GS and put them in a Chinese knockoff. Then wouldn't they be able to connect it to iTunes?

2 - To get a beta, you need to be able to connect the phone to iTunes and find the UDID , and then submit it to Apple as a developer's phone. I'm sure if Apple saw this UDID attempt to be registered, they would deny the registration. Or if it's automated, it wouldn't go through, as it's not a recognized UDID for a retail model.

3 - If it is an iPhone prototype, there would not be a beta available through iTunes. Only Betas for released and compatible devices would be available, those being iPhone 1,2 and iPhone 2,1.
 
I'm not convienced and people are going to belive what they want to. And it's going to make me smile they they are shown this is a fake in june when the real IP4G is introduced :D

But never the less people seem to forget about what apple did with the Ipad. After the ipad was released and even when pre-orders were made. Apple Forced the devs that did have the Ipad to keep it in a room with no windows. Under lock and key and that was done for a product. That had been unveiled already.

So tell me this guys. If they went to all of that fuss over the keeping the ipad under lock and key then why would they just allow the ip4G to be leaked. And feel free to ignore this point because i know alot of people on here ignore logic
 
Anyone that still thinks it is fake has some serious issues at hand.
only way I would believe it to be real would be at WWDC and Steve Jobs shows the world the new iPhone until then it's just a real good fake iPhone to stir up excitement/attention, no one can say it's real till apple officially announce and demo the new iPhone plain and simple
 
I am convinced by the Gizmodo story for the following reasons:

1) A phone with a nearly-identical appearance was photographed by a Chinese iPhone rumors site.

2) The internal components are polished, professionally-designed, and clearly fitted to this prototype's case.

3) Gizmodo's videos prove that this is not a rendering or Photoshopped.

4) Gizmodo is an established site with a lot to lose if it is found to have perpetrated a hoax. There is no way that their short-term gain from a few million hits would outweigh the long-term damage to their reputation.

5) Creating a fake or decoy which would fool the tech-savvy folks at Gizmodo when they have unlimited physical access to the device and the ability to do a complete teardown would be prohibitively expensive, even supposing someone (Apple?) the ability to do so. I cannot posit any motive for Apple in doing this that would even approach justifying the cost. And, whatever his other quirks, Steve Jobs is definitely a bottom-line kind of guy.



1 - The author contradicted themself in their own article. First, they say it's a fake, or else they can connect to iTunes and download 4.0 Beta for the device. Then, they say someone took the components out of a 3GS and put them in a Chinese knockoff. Then wouldn't they be able to connect it to iTunes?

2 - To get a beta, you need to be able to connect the phone to iTunes and find the UDID , and then submit it to Apple as a developer's phone. I'm sure if Apple saw this UDID attempt to be registered, they would deny the registration. Or if it's automated, it wouldn't go through, as it's not a recognized UDID for a retail model.

3 - If it is an iPhone prototype, there would not be a beta available through iTunes. Only Betas for released and compatible devices would be available, those being iPhone 1,2 and iPhone 2,1.

I agree with both of these posts, well said.
 
So tell me this guys. If they went to all of that fuss over the keeping the ipad under lock and key then why would they just allow the ip4G to be leaked. And feel free to ignore this point because i know alot of people on here ignore logic

There could be a number of reasons, such as Apple being a lot less strict with keeping the new iPhone safe because it's just an update to a new model, when the iPad was actually a new product. Or possibly because it's easy to keep an iPhone low-key in public because they can just put it in a case and make it look like another phone, the iPad, not so much. And you say that they "just allow the iPhone 4G to be leaked". But they probably didn't, it just happened.

EDIT: I also find it very hard to believe that both Engadget and Gizmodo, as well respected websites, would risk their reputations over the same rumor they don't have a strong reason to believe.
 
will "lost in a bar" be as epic as "elevator picture"

Don't know if this was discussed already but with this thing continuing to gain steam... Do you guys think the "lost in the bar" story will replace the "pictures in an elevator" as the famous reference made when discussing leaks... Granted I wasn't around in the Apple world when that happened so maybe some of you folks that were can chime in. Was the story this big and widely discussed?
 
So tell me this guys. If they went to all of that fuss over the keeping the ipad under lock and key then why would they just allow the ip4G to be leaked. And feel free to ignore this point because i know alot of people on here ignore logic

It's a well established fact that Apple gave several hundred iPhones out to testers before the 2G was announced - they need to to test things like cell phone antenna reception.

Also worth noting the iPad was leaked, more than once. Not very early like this, but most stuff has been leaked in the last couple of years.

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