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Will MMS cripple the network?

jav6454 said:
Those people praising Verizon's network, might I add that AT&T's 9 Million iPhone customers consumer the same data as 90 Million other smartphone users.

So, put the strain of 90 Million smartphone users on Verizon's so called ultimate network, and watch it crawl also. In fact, it might actually come to a screeching halt seeing as Verizon idiotic engineers don't know how to handle such traffic. AT&T on the other hand knows first hand what it feels like.

I'm sure MMS will be fine. If it isn't I will bitch at AT&T because they delayed it to be "ready" and if their ready isn't enough, it won't matter, I'll take it to court.
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AT&T's backhaul is like a single 56k Modem trying to support 300 bandwidth hungry youtube viewers from there laptops. At least verizon has ther FiOS to use as a massive backhaul. Not to mention UMTS is based off CDMA because standard GSM can't naturally achieve near the speeds of CDMA even with an EDGE upgrade....seeing as UMTS is reaching up to 21.0MB/s in areas I would say CDMA while not as widespread should not have any issues with the iPhone. BTW, I'm not biased I like GSM/UMTS 100x better for its global usage, versatility and now much faster speeds but don't act as if AT&T is the second coming of Jesus like EVERY iPhone fanboy frantically jump's too without thinking. You can have 5 bars of 3G and drop every call you have with AT&T....so much for reliability. I KNOW Verizon would have trouble handling bandwidth with the iPhone but please there more prepared.
 
Will MMS cripple the network?

It seems like many people are hoping so.:confused: Not sure why, but they do. I guess they don't own an iphone.
 
jav6454 said:
So, put the strain of 90 Million smartphone users on Verizon's so called ultimate network, and watch it crawl also. In fact, it might actually come to a screeching halt seeing as Verizon idiotic engineers don't know how to handle such traffic.
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Verizon engineers have been ahead of the curve for years. They were smart enough to choose CDMA from the start, instead of having to later backfit an entire oldstyle GSM TDMA network to WCDMA just to get 3G... which is why ATT is so far behind.

CDMA was the only choice for the fewest lost calls, most users in a cell, and fastest speeds.

Verizon finished EVDO Rev A rollout the day that the iPhone first went on sale over two years ago. ATT had just finished ramping up EDGE speeds.

Lately, Verizon has been improving their backhaul using their FiOS network and ex-MCI fiber trunks. While most USA carrier cells have only 1-10Mbps right now, Verizon is moving to 50-150+ Mbps per tower.
 
Everyone would have trouble with the iphone. I don't think anyone is saying that if Verizon got access, it'd be smooth sailing, with full bars and 3 G in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, no no, just that it wouldn't be as bad. Maybe they'd even allow some real choice in plans, not locking you into extremely little for a lot, or way more than you need for a helluva lot, without the ability to use the services you paid for most of the time.

Verizon has the best network, with the suckiest phones. However, it'd only make sense for Apple to give Verizon something. Demands are only going to increase more and more and more for the iphone, and I don't think we'll EVER see tethering for ATT.
 
MMS is not data intensive at all. I'm surprised people are even willing to pay so much for each message.
 
kdarling said:
Verizon engineers have been ahead of the curve for years. They were smart enough to choose CDMA from the start, instead of having to later backfit an entire oldstyle GSM TDMA network to WCDMA just to get 3G... which is why ATT is so far behind.

CDMA was the only choice for the fewest lost calls, most users in a cell, and fastest speeds.

Verizon finished EVDO Rev A rollout the day that the iPhone first went on sale over two years ago. ATT had just finished ramping up EDGE speeds.

Lately, Verizon has been improving their backhaul using their FiOS network and ex-MCI fiber trunks. While most USA carrier cells have only 1-10Mbps right now, Verizon is moving to 50-150+ Mbps per tower.
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I'd like to see Verizon do better then.
 
jav6454 said:
I'd like to see Verizon do better then.
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I'm sure Verizon would love the chance to. But Apple seems determined to stay with the network who they seem to butt heads with on every issue for whatever reason.
 
nateo200 said:
AT&T's backhaul is like a single 56k Modem trying to support 300 bandwidth hungry youtube viewers from there laptops. At least verizon has ther FiOS to use as a massive backhaul. Not to mention UMTS is based off CDMA because standard GSM can't naturally achieve near the speeds of CDMA even with an EDGE upgrade....seeing as UMTS is reaching up to 21.0MB/s in areas I would say CDMA while not as widespread should not have any issues with the iPhone. BTW, I'm not biased I like GSM/UMTS 100x better for its global usage, versatility and now much faster speeds but don't act as if AT&T is the second coming of Jesus like EVERY iPhone fanboy frantically jump's too without thinking. You can have 5 bars of 3G and drop every call you have with AT&T....so much for reliability. I KNOW Verizon would have trouble handling bandwidth with the iPhone but please there more prepared.
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I know the backhaul is the problem (I made a quite large paragraph analysis about it some time ago in 2 threads). I think AT&T is sorting that out with their U-Verse lines. However, U-Verse took too long to get here mainly because of its 3 way service.

Hopefully, AT&T is packing their cell towers with U-Verse lines.
 
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