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theshark

macrumors newbie
Sep 6, 2013
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Stick with the iPhone. Android platform is very unstable and "crashes" quite a bit.
 

Ann P

macrumors 68020
Jun 29, 2009
2,311
9
California
Stay with the S4, the 5S will more than likely be internal improvements. The iPhone 6 will be the one to get.
 

APhillyApple

macrumors regular
Sep 3, 2013
102
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I believe it will be better, some people confuse specs and useless features with better. Being completely honest, its all about preference. If you have drummed up in your that you prefer one over the other thats what you should go with.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,878
10,987
Some posts remind me of the people who dip their foot in the pool and yell "too cold" without even trying to adjust to the temperature.
 

Fanaticalism

macrumors 6502a
Apr 16, 2013
908
158
My girlfriend and I both owned the S4 for a single day and returned them. Nice specs but it doesn't operate like an iphone. Not close enough for us to really like it anyway.

I find these types of posts silly, "I purchased a device but it was different so I returned it". That makes no sense and lacks practicality. If you want something to be exactly the same, buy the same thing again!
 

Dustman

macrumors 65816
Apr 17, 2007
1,381
238
Stick with the iPhone. Android platform is very unstable and "crashes" quite a bit.

So you've used a recent Android device? I find it far more stable than iOS 5 (the last iOS version I've used) on a 4S. I wouldn't call either platform 'unstable', although I'd call Safari crashy at times. Chrome on Android hasn't crashed on me yet, while safari would encounter a crash once or twice a day.

It amazes me you can't pick an actual valid flaw in Android to pick at. There's tonnes. Crashing isn't one of them. You could argue over-complexity, fragmentation (which has yet to ever impact me.. probably because I don't buy crap low-end devices), comparative app quality, Samsung specific half baked motion features.. ect.

Both OS's are excellent, and Android devices are killing it lately offering the consumer a huge array of options fitting their exact niches and needs. Know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
 

roxics

macrumors 6502
Aug 4, 2013
291
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I find these types of posts silly, "I purchased a device but it was different so I returned it". That makes no sense and lacks practicality. If you want something to be exactly the same, buy the same thing again!

Apparently you didn't read my follow up. It wasn't that it wasn't exactly the same. I got it because I wanted to try something different. But by different I was hoping for something that did what I needed it to do and it didn't.
 

Drew1204

macrumors member
Nov 6, 2009
39
0
So you've used a recent Android device? I find it far more stable than iOS 5 (the last iOS version I've used) on a 4S. I wouldn't call either platform 'unstable', although I'd call Safari crashy at times. Chrome on Android hasn't crashed on me yet, while safari would encounter a crash once or twice a day.

It amazes me you can't pick an actual valid flaw in Android to pick at. There's tonnes. Crashing isn't one of them. You could argue over-complexity, fragmentation (which has yet to ever impact me.. probably because I don't buy crap low-end devices), comparative app quality, Samsung specific half baked motion features.. ect.

Both OS's are excellent, and Android devices are killing it lately offering the consumer a huge array of options fitting their exact niches and needs. Know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.

U wot m8? Are your jimmies rustled?
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
Apart from some geeky stuff, this is what it boils down to IMO:

If you want to spend more time setting up things to your liking, have a penchan to customize the look and feel of a smartphone UI, want the OS to handle more of the responsibility compared to the apps, are interested in trying out various oem offerings and hardware choices then a s4 is probably going to satisfy you much better.

If you want a workhorse that is set up in a way that just happens to check all your boxes, offers little OS flexibility but encourages app usage, offers a single hardware choice that strives to balance against the other flagships on its own, is backed up by decent support, then a 5S would make you happy.

I found that up until my new job and family responsibilities being a gadget nerd was too much fun so i played with many android handsets, owning a gs4 at the moment. However, at this point I want a smartphone that can quickly do what I want it to do and have the OS step aside instead of me catering to its needs (running various tweaks and tools, always customizing etc) so while I am interested in the iPhone I would like to see ios7 first. My only big complaint is iOS being unfriendly to non-itunes content transfer and if that could be worked on, I think I would rather get an iPhone as my smartphone and probably a nexus 7 as my android consumption tablet (great value for reading, browsing and movies).
 

cuzo

macrumors 65816
Sep 23, 2012
1,069
249
I have a iphone 5, great phone but a little small.

This guy has a s4 with defender case for 300.

I was debating buying it and if I don't like it, selling it.

Of course it's always a risk on craigslist and ebay.

What do you think?

I am a student and my main goal is my studies but yes I can't stop thinking about this stuff.

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Apart from some geeky stuff, this is what it boils down to IMO:

If you want to spend more time setting up things to your liking, have a penchan to customize the look and feel of a smartphone UI, want the OS to handle more of the responsibility compared to the apps, are interested in trying out various oem offerings and hardware choices then a s4 is probably going to satisfy you much better.

If you want a workhorse that is set up in a way that just happens to check all your boxes, offers little OS flexibility but encourages app usage, offers a single hardware choice that strives to balance against the other flagships on its own, is backed up by decent support, then a 5S would make you happy.

I found that up until my new job and family responsibilities being a gadget nerd was too much fun so i played with many android handsets, owning a gs4 at the moment. However, at this point I want a smartphone that can quickly do what I want it to do and have the OS step aside instead of me catering to its needs (running various tweaks and tools, always customizing etc) so while I am interested in the iPhone I would like to see ios7 first. My only big complaint is iOS being unfriendly to non-itunes content transfer and if that could be worked on, I think I would rather get an iPhone as my smartphone and probably a nexus 7 as my android consumption tablet (great value for reading, browsing and movies).

This is the main thinking that draws me away from Android.

I know what to expect already.

tweaking, wondering what's killing my battery, so forth and so forth but on the flipside the larger screen and swiftkey make me want to trade.
 

Marcellus

macrumors member
Nov 10, 2011
65
5
Branford, CT
HI guys, I have just got the new S4 but now that the new iPhone is coming out I think I may have made a mistake.

The S4 does lots of things brilliantly but I have a Mac and ipad etc at home and the new iPhone is a week away.

Should I return it and get a 5S? It is hard to know since the phone isn't even out yet and will cost an extra £150 up from I am guessing.

What should I do?

You need to decide which features and above, which operating system, you prefer for your smartphone. iPhone = IOS S4 = Android They are different, so which do you like better, or can you live with either? Also, will screen size matter to you? If so, I doubt that the new iPhone will be much larger. I hope so because I am on the fence about an upgrade too. I like IOS but the screen size and internal memory are deal-breakers. But that may not be your deal-breaker. Can you return the S4 and hold off until Sept. 10 to see if the new iPhone has what you want most?
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
People make it sound as if there's all this upkeep to owning an Android product. Don't you change or customize it the first time or two and find that once you're satisfied, you let it be? And then only customize it again if you feel the need?

People are making it sound like you've got to constantly tweak Android day in and day out to get it to "work." This is simply untrue. Or at least, doesn't need to be true. In other words, you have the option to customize; doesn't mean you have to customize.

And I've made this argument before: it's time to admit Android's strength is more than its customizability. I'll quote my old post, some of which may be outdated, but it'll suffice to leave here:

onthecouchagain said:
i think it's time to admit that android is better for more reasons than just customization.

It's simply easier to do most of the same basic functions on a modern day android device than on an ios device. I can make a phone call to a very specific person with literally one touch, as oppose to requiring multiple touches and/or holding for siri and speaking (not always practical in a place you can't or don't want to talk) and waiting for siri to dial the right person. One touch on android that is guaranteed the right person.

It's easier to open new tabs, or switch tabs, or start private browsing on chrome than it is to do any of that in safari. Safari has tap to go back to the top that is one advantage, but not much else. The freedom of scrolling all the way to the top with one flick in chrome also helps mitigate this.

Accessing mail is easier through gmail if you have multiple accounts. Sharing is easier because you can actually share to any app you want, as oppose to ios only allowing you to share to fb/twitter. Dropbox, for example, i can share directly to if i snap a picture, check it out from the camera gallery, and decide i want to load this onto dropbox. I can do this right away. With ios, i have to exit and go to dropbox and find the picture again to "upload" it.

Then things like the dedicated menu button or the dedicated back button; always there, always reliable. With ios, sometimes the settings is in the main ios settings area, sometimes it's in the app. With the "back" button on ios, sometimes it's top left, sometimes top right, sometimes it's a "cancel" button on the center-bottom of screen. You have to "look" for it many times.

These are but a few examples. I can go on about turning on/off wifi, bluetooth, the lock screen when i don't need the added security, or quickly changing the volume toggles (yes there's a "vibrate" hardware switch but when in an important meeting, even vibrating can be heard and unwanted) -- all these things are doable with android with one touch. One.

I can launch any app i want directly from the lock screen. Again, easier, faster access.

And don't get me started on the keyboard...

There are a few exceptions, of course, but it's time people realize that most of the things that ios used to be better at are now either on fair grounds or has been surpassed by android this day and age.

It's not just customizations anymore -- that's now a bonus. Android has figured out how to do most of the same basic functions in better, faster, easier ways.


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I would also suggest looking at the Note III and all its features and abilities particularly with the S Pen. This has gone beyond "customization." One can accomplish most basic (and almost all advance) functions on Android faster, easier, better than they can on iOS.

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If I may quote another old post, which is not entirely irrelevant to my point:

onthecouchagain said:
Customization is more than skin deep. It caters the phone to your specific needs and wants. What lock screen do you want to see when you first wake your device, or what browser you want to launch every time you hit a link, or what keyboard you want to use to type your messages, or what toggles and information you want... there's so many more things you can configure and tweak.

All this adds to the usability of the phone. You can make the device uniquely yours. iOS claims to be super simple, but we're in an age where the competition has figured out how to do the same things more efficiently. Just look at how many steps it takes to turn on private browsing in iOS. Or how many steps it takes to switch conversations in chat programs or tabs in browsers (it's literally one swipe to switch between tabs in Chrome).

iOS is so simple that it's less usable. Whereas Android gives you the freedom to make it as usable as you want.
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
And one more, if I may:


onthecouchagain said:
I've said the same thing many times before. It's not just about number of taps, per se (remember, that was just a simple example). It's also about ease of use. It's about finding things easier.

It's about being able to access settings right away (and not have to navigate out of the app you want to configure to go into the operating system's Settings section and then finding the app again to configure it).

It's about having a dedicated back button that is always there in the same place (as oppose to looking for the back or cancel or return button -- and yes, that "navigation bar" takes up space where there is so little to spare already).

It's about widgets giving you information right away, even in your lock screen.

It's about the non-obtrusive notifications that Android employs (I still can't believe iOS users find it acceptable that after years, all Apple could come up with to notify you is a banner that drops down that covers and blocks the top of the phone. How is blocking visibility and usage part of Apple's software philosophy?).

It's about not having to input my goddamn password every time I download an app (and remember, only recently did iOS finally not boot you out of the App Store when you began a download).

It's about the freedom to attach anything I want to an email; freedom to share things immediately to any app I have installed (not just to FB and Twitter); freedom to choose what keyboard (and thus method of typing) fits me best; freedom to choose what browser I want to explore the internet with; and so forth.

I say again, for all those people who keep talking about "preference being the most important thing," you're sure not appreciating what Android allows. It's precisely the freedom to prefer whatever you want.
 

rillrill

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2011
843
654
New York
yeah. go to mycolorscreen.com and weep for ios.

ios 7...what did they show ay wwdc? a new ui? apple needs to come up with services.

samsungs s pen features are actually useful. dont know about the s4...
 

pmau

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2010
1,569
854
Buy both the iPhone 5S and the Galaxy S4 and please stop pestering the forums with all these comparisons. It's just stupid.

It's two platforms with a different approach to features and usability. No way to even compare the two to say which is "better".

I have an iPhone5 and A Galaxy S3 and don't really care about their differences.

(I usually don't sell used phones, theyy trickle down the family or simply occupy desk drawer space).
 
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