Naming conventions suggest they’ll both get M4
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Will the New iPad Pro Really Have the M4 Chip?
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Doesn’t make sense the M3 is already more than powerful enough for an iPad! The m3 pro has the same neural engine as the m3 so no added benefit there neither . If the strategy focus is on AI needs an upgraded neural engine
And who has confirmed that the "leaked" listing is even correct or real? Plus, it's possible that Gurman has heard fragments of information not based upon that supposedly "leaked" document.
Right now it's rumor based upon more rumor and we won't know what's going to happen with the iPad Pro until next week's event.
That said, if it does prove to be a variation on the M3 Pro rather than just the M3 then you probably heard it first here...
Part of the leak was found in iOS 17.5 beta code.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. Data through the USB-C port. As it stands that port is for power only.
Okay, but all of those conclusions were based purely on conjecture.
I'm not saying that it will definitely be some version of the M3 Pro rather than the M4. Just that I think it's a possibility and it would help explain why Apple decided to downgrade the M3 Pro over what had come before in the M1 Pro and M2 Pro (in terms of performance cores). They may have done that to place more "space" between the Pro and Max but maybe they were also planning on moving the iPad Pro to the "Pro" Apple silicon.
Like it or not that's how the M4 rumor started.
Good luck with your M3 Pro theory, though.
I suppose, if we insist there is something new launching and we’re trying to guess what that might be, it could be a new class of dedicated iPad silicon, in between A-series and M-series. T (for tablet) would be the obvious choice but that is probably not an option, even though the old Apple silicon security T-series is extinct. Maybe just start with T3, thereby avoiding confusion with T1 and T2?!
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Like I said earlier, I still think the new iPad Pros will use a unique version of the M3 SoC but with a few more CPU and GPU cores, but still lack the AI functionality. That will come with the M4 SoC, which will appear first with the MacBook Pro in M4 Pro and M4 Max versions, then move over to the iPad Pro starting early in 2025.
The M#-Pro chip would be useless in the iPad and that has nothing to do with the OS or apps. Even the MacBook Air has vents in the hinge while the iPad has none and a heat generating screen on one surface. So unless you are pointing a fan at the iPad it would thermally throttle and you could only access the extra power in spurts, but not with sustained tasks.
My view is the issue with the iPad is that the OS is holding it back. Opening an app slightly quicker is not going to get those who have older iPad Pros to upgrade in any significant way. If they offer some kind of unique and relevant new features that provide some kind of obvious value to consumers, they you will get people like me who are still using a 2018 iPad Pro to upgrade. A faster chip, slightly updated design and slightly better screen will not push me to upgrade and neither will a landscape FaceTime camera.
We will find out in a few days...
We will find out in a few days...
Hmm... I'm really looking forward to the M4, but I wonder if it will come out next week...
Chip bench performance usually starts leaking a month or two before release, but I haven't seen the M4 bench performance leaked yet.
Chip bench performance usually starts leaking a month or two before release, but I haven't seen the M4 bench performance leaked yet.
Question: do you think that, with the OLED and FaceID differentiator for the iPad Pro, the iPad Air could also get the M4 chip?
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more logical I see it.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more logical I see it.
The M3 is basically the A17X if you want to look at it that way. The X/Z chips weren't worth developing on top once the M series came along and took their place.
This was not in fact the case:
Will the New iPad Pro Really Have the M4 Chip?
If anything that exploit was overhyped and talked about too much too breathlessly. The M3 is already (partially) resistant and, contrary to the researchers initial assumptions, it turns out the M1 and M2 can in theory be patched as Hector Martin found the chicken bit in the M2 SOC that...
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I also wrote that somewhere else. It would also fit to the Chip ID:
A14: T8101 -> M1: T8103 (based on A14)
A15: T8110 -> M2: T8112 (based on A15)
A16: T8120 -> M3: T8122 (hybrid: CPU and GPU based on A17, NPU based on A16)
A17: T8130 -> M4/A17Max: T8132 (based on A17)
It might actually make a lot of sense to start an M* generation on the iPad, especially as they move to new/smaller processes. Usually the yields are lower when they start production, and on the iPad they could bin the chips.
However, I'd imagine if the M4 is coming to the iPad next week, we will see MacBook Pros with it very soon.
However, I'd imagine if the M4 is coming to the iPad next week, we will see MacBook Pros with it very soon.
Not to mention that, by naming the M3 Refresh chip A17 Max, they save the M4 name for their new architecture.
I can see Apple wanting to keep name and architecture confusion to a minimum (Clickbait in late-may 2024, "Is M4 actually new?").
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This is conjecture to what could be grounds of this occurring. The following points are made:
Apple is also today after the bell is suppose to announce its earnings.
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5 reasons why the M4 iPad Pro rumors actually make sense
It seems odd to introduce a new chip generation in the iPad Pro, but considering the timing, it could be the right move.
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This is conjecture to what could be grounds of this occurring. The following points are made:
- iPad Pro volumes are low
- iPad sales need a big boost
- Apple needs an AI-ready device before WWDC
- Devs will need AI hardware before the fall
- An M3 iPad Pro would be poorly timed
Apple is also today after the bell is suppose to announce its earnings.
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Even though Apple has silenced critics and beaten existential crises before, some fans of its minimalist products and investors in its maximalist stock are nervous.
This is a very challenging time for Apple to say the least. Besides all the questions about marketing/boosting sales of its iPads its has yet to display really any progress with desktop Macs yet?
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Ipad Pro sales would get a boost but it would hurt Mac sales. I think I am not alone with the thought that we will see new Macs quickly with M4 after the ipad got it. Not a good deal IMO. If it gets the A17 Max or a new ipad SOC like "S1" it would't hurt the Mac sales.related
5 reasons why the M4 iPad Pro rumors actually make sense
It seems odd to introduce a new chip generation in the iPad Pro, but considering the timing, it could be the right move.
This is conjecture to what could be grounds of this occurring. The following points are made:
Even though they reason well, the hardware without operating system software that shows off its capabilities will be absent for months.
- iPad Pro volumes are low
- iPad sales need a big boost
- Apple needs an AI-ready device before WWDC
- Devs will need AI hardware before the fall
- An M3 iPad Pro would be poorly timed
Apple is also today after the bell is suppose to announce its earnings