Will there be a new Mac Pro in 2015?

[ManuelGomes]

I'm also thinking that we won't see the nMP anytime soon, not June any way.
End of the year, early next year maybe.
Even only when SkyLake comes I guess, which kinda makes sense, but leaves a feeling of too long for an update, the current hardware will be way "old" by then.
New GPUs should be presented in June, some months for validation, custom cards ready and validated no sooner than xmas. By then SkyLake is around the corner and that will be an awesome machine.
Even NVMe drives are already in the new MacBook, OS X 10.10.3 supports it natively, as well as SST 60Hz on most current machines (Late 2013 an beyond):
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202856

The Samsung SM951 seems to be readily available as well, in normal quantities that is, but it's not the NVMe model I believe.
I wonder which SSD model is in the MacBook, it's simply branded Apple as usual, anyone knows if it's the Samsung NVMe model already?

 

[mrxak]

Why oh why did Apple make such a little box with such tight thermal requirements?

WWDC is coming in June. Maybe we'll see something then but I'm getting really impatient.

 

[sigmadog]

I, too, tend to think the window is closing for a mid-2015 update, though I think they'll at least make some sort of announcement in the fall. From a marketing perspective, they'll want to have a 2015 model, even if it means mid-late December like last time because it's hard to keep the halo effect on a product that's 3 years old.

It's really hard to guess what Apple will do, aside from making things smaller.

 

[JesterJJZ]

Kill it with fire.

 

[IlluminatedSage]

its starting to be very aggravating to see Apple treat the Mac as a second class product line and that just continuing.

They refuse to do incremental upgrades. really dumb if you ask me. As someone who wants to purchase a new mac pro, it is not a good prospect.

Even the iMac 5k is old guts, outside of the new graphics chip.

They could update computers, but they are cheap in R&D on that. Silly when they are rolling in money.

 

[MacVidCards]

For me what is frustrating is what they COULD be doing.

They could be making the best computers on the planet. The fastest, the latest tech, etc. But instead they are becoming more and more of a consumable electronics company. It is quite obvious that they want everything to stay relevant or current for 2-3 years tops.

The nMP isn't a bad computer, it's just so much less than what it could be. Letting it wither on the vine isn't helping things.

 

[RoastingPig]

When linux gets there mess together i'll be gone from here.

 

[fuchsdh]

When linux gets there mess together i'll be gone from here.

Look forward to seeing you for the foreseeable future.

 

[Nosferax]

Look forward to seeing you for the foreseeable future.

It's getting closer and closer.

 

[wallysb01]

It's getting closer and closer.

For the heavy lifting its already there. I’ve been living with a linux workstation, linux clusters and a macbook pro for several years now.

 

[mugwump]

No rush. Intel may be skipping Haswell and going to Skylake instead. And they just released their 2500MB/sec SSD for $400 with the NVMe interface (Intel 750), so the next mac pro needs this tech. The newest MacBookPro has this.

 

[Simon R.]

Googling "Skylake" it seems the CPUs will be be 4-core tops. Even with a new platform and perhaps higher speeds, it seems like it will be a performance drop from the current platform!? What am I missing??

 

[fastlanephil]

Googling "Skylake" it seems the CPUs will be be 4-core tops. Even with a new platform and perhaps higher speeds, it seems like it will be a performance drop from the current platform!? What am I missing??

Would'nt those be just the mobile processors?

 

[mrxak]

Look forward to seeing you for the foreseeable future.

Every year is the year of the linux desktop

 

[koyoot]

Googling "Skylake" it seems the CPUs will be be 4-core tops. Even with a new platform and perhaps higher speeds, it seems like it will be a performance drop from the current platform!? What am I missing??

You do understand you are talking about consumer segment, not workstation?

What is the name of current CPU in Mac Pro? Xeon or i7?

Skylake-EP Xeon, thats what you should've been searching for.

 

[fuchsdh]

Every year is the year of the linux desktop

Yep. I've been hearing it personally ever since CompSci, when Ubuntu was the hot new kid in town. Then it was Mint...

No doubt you can get work done with a Linux machine (and, of course, certain workflows basically require Linux.) But at this point I don't see how it could ever become a viable consumer-oriented OS without destroying what most people like about Linux in the process.

 

[Simon R.]

You do understand you are talking about consumer segment, not workstation?

What is the name of current CPU in Mac Pro? Xeon or i7?

Skylake-EP Xeon, thats what you should've been searching for.

I do Googling around just only found me info about 2 and 4-core CPU's. Luckily adding "-EP" helped - I can see they will come in up to 14 cores. Thank god

 

[mugwump]

Plus, there are two sockets in the nMP for CPUs, and only one is being used. So the next version could/should use both if they can increase the available power in that little enclosure.

Sky lake looks amazing, complete redesign.

 

[JesterJJZ]

Plus, there are two sockets in the nMP for CPUs, and only one is being used. So the next version could/should use both if they can increase the available power in that little enclosure.

Sky lake looks amazing, complete redesign.

First I've heard of this. Dual CPUs is a must before I even give the nMP a second look.

 

[MacVidCards]

Plus, there are two sockets in the nMP for CPUs, and only one is being used. So the next version could/should use both if they can increase the available power in that little enclosure.

Sky lake looks amazing, complete redesign.

Really, wow, did they hide the second socket under a sticker?

 

[flat five]

Plus, there are two sockets in the nMP for CPUs, and only one is being used. So the next version could/should use both if they can increase the available power in that little enclosure.

really? where?

as far as i can gather, the only thing there's room for two of which is currently using one is the space for a 2nd SSD.

 

[mugwump]

Oops, wrote that too quickly. What I meant is that there is an identical open space where a second socket should be, but it's empty. I assume it will get used when they can get more wattage power in there.

 

[simonmet]

Look forward to seeing you for the foreseeable future.

My thoughts exactly. Had to use some flavour of Linux at work once (Red Hat I think). God it's awful. But if that wasn't bad enough having to use Open Office or Libre Office or whichever one it was had me tearing my hair out in fits of rage.

Linux isn't the answer from my experience.

 

[simonmet]

That is pretty much my feeling too. In 2014 I bought three 2012 Macs. Despite some recent hardware advances 2012 was to me the best year for Macs as usable computers.

I am still building up my 2012 Mac Pro so I still have some love for OS X, but I have lost faith. When you lose faith in a religion it's all but over.

I am writing this on a 2012 MBP running Windows 10. The latest build with updates is getting really nice. Having a lack of fading, whooshing and rubber-banding it has the feel of an adult's operating system.

Windows has become somewhat respectable of late. There are even parts of the 8.1 UI that I find preferable to OS X such as its simpler and cleaner window layout. I'm also not a huge fan of that added fluff you mentioned. There's seemingly no rhyme or reason where Mavericks uses translucency for instance. It serves little to no purpose whatsoever.

But that's as far as I'd go personally. At the end of the day it's still Windows with its terribly organised system settings, DOS, registry, stupid system structure and application preferences that are impossible to find or fix. I love in OS X that the system structure and user accounts have some logic to them. If you ever have a problem with an app or simply want to reset it this can almost always be achieved by trashing its preference and cache files, which are easily found because they're put in logical, easy to find and logically named places. Achieving the same in Windows usually requires complete uninstallation and reinstallation of the application. I also love some of the simple but powerful Unix system tools available in OS X Terminal. Windows equivalents are generally **** by comparison (if they exist at all).

These are only a few of the things which make me still prefer OS X over Windows. I don't mind using Windows as my second OS but I'd hate to depend on it as my only choice.

 

[simonmet]

I love the new Mac Pro and wish I could afford one.

It can scale between the much requested xMac if you get a base configuration, to a more high end (though admittedly not very high end because of only once CPU) workstation. It's even relatively upgradable for a Mac. The base model should outperform a high-end iMac and it's definitely more upgradable so is this not the headless Mac or xMac people wanted? Remember the iMac only uses mobile or mid-range graphics cards so even though the Mac Pro doesn't have gaming-optimised graphics the base model should still outperform a mobile-class chip is my guess, probably fairly easily.

So I don't get the concern or hate other than its price and perhaps lack of internal storage. There's only one desktop that looks good enough to have on my desk and that's the new Mac Pro!

I just wish I could afford one!