I thought the opposite. It was all super good, super great, super fast, super cool and super super etc, they began to sound like contrived scripted idiots after a while.
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I thought the opposite. It was all super good, super great, super fast, super cool and super super etc, they began to sound like contrived scripted idiots after a while.
X99 System running Windows 10 Technical Preview. I use it to edit photos with Lightroom for my stock portfolio. I also use Ableton Live and Propellerheads Reason with an external audio card without ANY issues. It is rock stable and working really well day after day.
Packed in a Fractal Design R5 case and even with some overclocking the system stays quiet. I dont buy the "post-pc" era phase. But it tells me that Apple doesn't want to focus on their prosumers. Or they at least down-prioritize it, because the market is probably not that large.
In the end you have to use what works best for you. If Apple turns around and provides something that works just switch over again.
Wow, I think you splashed some Kool Aid on your calendar.
Have another look, nMP was announced 24 months ago and started shipping 18 months ago. You just said it was 9 months since launch. Perhaps you took a long nap?
And as for your "Apple's customers aren't able to tell the difference anyway" theory....humorous really.
I wonder, do you think they are so oblivious as to not notice they have no bootscreens on 4K and 5K displays while a cMP does? You really think those nMP customers are pretty oblivious huh?
You don't have to keep making excuses for nMP. It will keep being produced without you rounding 2 years down to 9 months, etc.
I'm not the one who predicted there would be GPU upgrades for nMP. That was you. You are basically doing a 180 degree flip flop from your previous preaching.
I'm the one who said there WOULD NOT.
And here we are 2 years (24 months) after the intro, running on 2011 GPUs.
Huh.
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flat five - when you say "most advanced desktop computer we've made to date" Was that a Freudian slip? Or if I'm wrong - did Nepotism play a part in your employment at Apple?
Your long winded incorrect reasoning to justify the nMP is unnerving.
9 months was meant as an arbitrary time which falls in between launch and release of 2nd version / new gpus..
you keep saying there are no upgrades and i'm asking why would you expect there to be any right now.. for upgrades other than the three gpus available for nmp, apple would of had to either A) introduce new gpus prior to releasing v2 or B) just make like 12 of them from the very start..
read the part i said "in all but the most particular of situations".. like the one you just point out.
i'm talking about using the computer / being productive / etc.. you won't know the difference because there's not really much of a difference between new gpus and 2-3yr old gpus.
i'm not filp flopping.. there will be upgrades.. there already are upgrades.. you can change d300s to d700s, bought through legit channels, doing all the labor yourself.. today.
if you want d900s then you're sol.. they're not released yet.
don't worry.. i hear you loud and clear
not sure why you can't see that it's an advanced design.. all the other computers up til now have been "fill a box with components".. do you understand what i mean when i say that?
with the nmp, the designers thought about design within the shell.. everything is in it's particular place for a reason.. do you see that?
the design is more advanced than other computers up til now..
go to the year 2115... look at the history of computers.. you'll see the one in black&white which fills a room.. then you'll see the PC in a box design.. then you'll see the nmp.
today's HP is the same thing as 1989's IBM as far as what i'm trying to convey.
it's unnerving because you're reading me as you wish instead of reading what i'm talking about or where i'm coming from.. not much i can do about that.
OK, that is gibberish, and you know it. Basically arbitrary = inaccurate = wrong = incorrect.
Why make a point with an arbitrary number (9) when the real number is available (24). Unless of course you realize that while 24 months is a ridiculous amount of time, 9 months sounds far more reasonable.
Again, I didn't. YOU did. Would you like me to spend the time finding your (wrong) prediction?
Being able to see the boot screen is a "particular situation"?
I'm sorry, that is more gibberish. If only fringe case weirdos wanted boot screens, I wouldn't exist here.
You aren't helping anything anymore, nobody is silly enough to drink it anymore. It's OK, you were wrong, not the end of the earth.
heh.. actually what just happened is i thought you were mrxak who i was talking to in the thread previously.. both of your user names are 5letter random looking things
sorry for the confusion.
man, i'm just trying to ask you a question.
where do you expect nmp gpu upgrades to come from?
what are the most likely upgrades going to be?
(hint-- apple & v2 gpus.. no sooner than that.. not 1month after nmp release.. not 9 months.. not 18 months.. not until v2 is released.)
you're sitting around going "hrmfff.. there are still no upgrades to be had".. and i'm saying-- no crap.. why would there be any upgrades right now?
you're a gpu upgrades salesman.. if that's the strongest reasoning you got then i think you're drinking your own koolaid..
you're dodging the question... if i give you two computers with different generation gpus in them and load up a variety of typical productivity/design applications.. are you going to be able to tell me which computer has which gpu?
amend_
so that scenario, i wouldn't bet money on you seeing the actual nmp as a major stamp in the timeline.. it isn't a radical enough change to signify a new era in computers.. but it's a stepping stone towards the next level stuff.. and a step further than the other stuff we've seen up til now.. or, it's more advanced.
[edit] though you might actually see the phones/tablets/watches/glasses/etc at this point in the timeline.
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The bright side of no update yesterday is that I don't really need to visit this forum for at least 6 months. Lol.
What? And miss out on all this? No way!The bright side of no update yesterday is that I don't really need to visit this forum for at least 6 months. Lol.
Don't know what your experiences are, but last year i moved onto Dell after i seen the nMP s***t. It actually is a very good workstation and serviceable too. I have dual 6 core Xeons, a Quadro and tons of RAM. I added two hard disks i had so i am a very happy camper cause i hate external, they always fail. I can also add a second graphics, but don't needed, and anything i need for a specific project. I am onto purchasing 2 more, this time 2x8 core. Funny thing is the dual 8 core T7810 is cheaper then Apple single 4 core now that Apple increased prices in EU. It also has 32 Gb RAM DDR4 and a FirePro w5100 and 3 years on site next business day repair. So i am not sure what are you talking about, but Apple is way behind anything pro right now. I have an old Apple to connect to net and open old files, but that is all that i kept from my 15+ years with Apple. If this makes you happy, or Apple for that matter, the door did not hit me and i am as productive as ever. You know, making money not waiting for Apple to put their s***t together. Witch now you should know will never happen again, they are a toy company not production oriented anymore.
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Maybe in the future lets say 2115- when we finally leave this mortal coil, they wont put us in a box either - but in a garbage can.
Lets hope the xMP goes back to a box design (With rounded edges, of course!)
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Quite nice rumor goes in the Internet. There are leaked MSI slides with new AMD GPUs.
Grenada which turns out to be new Hawaii has OC'd TDP of 208W. Reference R9 290 had around 280W, and it was 918 MHz GPU.
Compare this: 2560 GCN core, 947 MHz GPU has a TDP of 280W. New one has 2816 GCN cores, 1060 MHz clock, has TDP of 208W.
That means it will be possible to squeeze it to 125W of TDP and put into Mac Pro.
Grenada which turns out to be new Hawaii has OC'd TDP of 208W. Reference R9 290 had around 280W, and it was 918 MHz GPU.
Compare this: 2560 GCN core, 947 MHz GPU has a TDP of 280W. New one has 2816 GCN cores, 1060 MHz clock, has TDP of 208W.
That means it will be possible to squeeze it to 125W of TDP and put into Mac Pro.
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208W was a typo it seems, they did it also back when the 290 series was announced :-(
It should maintain the 280W envelope.
Still, it will definitely find it's way somehow into the nMP.
Seen the Fury X? Cool... This would be great inside the nMP, compact due to HBM. Finally they got rid of DVI, still DP 1.2a only of course and HDMI 2.0.
The specs are awesome, it should excel at 4K/5K. Still it goes neck to neck with GTX980Ti on most benches at lower res, let's wait for 4K.
It looks gorgeous.
I'm curious regarding the tweaks of the 300 series, it seems there should be almost no change from 200, just pure rebrand.
We'll have to wait just a few more days...
208W was a typo it seems, they did it also back when the 290 series was announced :-(
It should maintain the 280W envelope.
Still, it will definitely find it's way somehow into the nMP.
Seen the Fury X? Cool... This would be great inside the nMP, compact due to HBM. Finally they got rid of DVI, still DP 1.2a only of course and HDMI 2.0.
The specs are awesome, it should excel at 4K/5K. Still it goes neck to neck with GTX980Ti on most benches at lower res, let's wait for 4K.
It looks gorgeous.
I'm curious regarding the tweaks of the 300 series, it seems there should be almost no change from 200, just pure rebrand.
We'll have to wait just a few more days...
It seems Samsung SM951 NVMe models will be available in June still, although probably only in mid-July.
Used in Intel's NUCs, a firmware update has been issued.
That could be a good sign, all is coming together.
GPUs are the same as before - that's a wash - but still good anyway.
Some AIB have them already out for sale, didn't even wait for tomorrow...
Only Broadwell missing for the stars to align.
Used in Intel's NUCs, a firmware update has been issued.
That could be a good sign, all is coming together.
GPUs are the same as before - that's a wash - but still good anyway.
Some AIB have them already out for sale, didn't even wait for tomorrow...
Only Broadwell missing for the stars to align.
Let's hope the power draw really comes down, so that they don't need to cut on the specs.
Too bad that after all this time this is all that really changes, still if the power cut is in fact this high it's worth it I guess.
I'm curious regarding the Tonga (Antiqua now) version, similar to the M295X I'd guess.
Too bad that after all this time this is all that really changes, still if the power cut is in fact this high it's worth it I guess.
I'm curious regarding the Tonga (Antiqua now) version, similar to the M295X I'd guess.
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What do people think of this build? It's for Maya and Maxwell Render / V-Ray.
GPU is a little underpowered but hey, I can upgrade later.
Thoughts?
<edit> It's not entirely clear from the image but that is TWO processors in this build. That's not £1500 for a single 8core CPU!
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Same ol', same ol'...
Didn't get to see the AMD presentation, just a bit.
Nothing really new anyway.
Even the Nano was leaked before, although double perf/watt compared to 290X is nice.
And sexy too ;-)
Nice design anyway, good for SFFs.
Would do nicely inside the nMP.
I still had a tiny hope that actually AMD had, in all this time, made some changes at least to Grenada, to get it to GCN 1.2 level, although that was mostly wishful thinking.
It's a pity that after all this time the top dog is still on GCN 1.1, although it's nothing to write home about I'd say.
Still, it's a bit too much to keep using the same tech over and over again, although I'm still wating to see if in fact the actual power draw is really that much better as initially speculated.
Didn't get to see the AMD presentation, just a bit.
Nothing really new anyway.
Even the Nano was leaked before, although double perf/watt compared to 290X is nice.
And sexy too ;-)
Nice design anyway, good for SFFs.
Would do nicely inside the nMP.
I still had a tiny hope that actually AMD had, in all this time, made some changes at least to Grenada, to get it to GCN 1.2 level, although that was mostly wishful thinking.
It's a pity that after all this time the top dog is still on GCN 1.1, although it's nothing to write home about I'd say.
Still, it's a bit too much to keep using the same tech over and over again, although I'm still wating to see if in fact the actual power draw is really that much better as initially speculated.
Nice rig Barry, but it' s no MP
A lot cheaper than the nMP, better specs, go for it if that's your thing.
Thing is, will you be supported if anything goes AWOL?
A lot cheaper than the nMP, better specs, go for it if that's your thing.
Thing is, will you be supported if anything goes AWOL?
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