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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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Apple Silicon iMac to Feature M1-Based 12-Core SoC With 16 GPU Cores; Rumored to Arrive in Two New Display Sizes
There is more exciting news surrounding the Apple Silicon iMac, as a tipster claims the new models will sport an M1-based 12-core SoC and more
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Anyone else feel it would be somewhat strange for them to offer the same exact chip on both the 23" and the 31.5" models?Apple Silicon iMac to Feature M1-Based 12-Core SoC With 16 GPU Cores; Rumored to Arrive in Two New Display Sizes
There is more exciting news surrounding the Apple Silicon iMac, as a tipster claims the new models will sport an M1-based 12-core SoC and more
A bit dubious of their Mac knowledge after reading the claim in that report that it will be the first time Apple has increased the size of iMac displays. It may be the first time for a few years, but far from the first. My first iMac was 24”, and I now own a 15” G4 iMac (as well as my more current 27”), neither of which are current sizes.Apple Silicon iMac to Feature M1-Based 12-Core SoC With 16 GPU Cores; Rumored to Arrive in Two New Display Sizes
There is more exciting news surrounding the Apple Silicon iMac, as a tipster claims the new models will sport an M1-based 12-core SoC and more
Hmmm...Apple Silicon iMac to Feature M1-Based 12-Core SoC With 16 GPU Cores; Rumored to Arrive in Two New Display Sizes
There is more exciting news surrounding the Apple Silicon iMac, as a tipster claims the new models will sport an M1-based 12-core SoC and more
Apple Silicon iMac Could Launch at Any Time, but Might Not Be Announced on March 23
The Apple Silicon iMac is ready for launch, according to a tipster, but there is a possibility we will not see it on March 23
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To be honest, not really. The high TDPs of the higher-end Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs likely required more internal volume for cooling and combined with their higher unit price to Apple may very well have been the reason they were only in the larger iMac and MacBook Pro models.
I am sure there were plenty of people who preferred the smaller form factor iMac and MBP and would have loved to been able to get a 8/10-core CPU and stronger AMD GPU if it had been offered. So Apple can now cater to both markets by offering performance without compromising on form factor.
My main worry about 31.5" is that this will be a 4K display (as will the 23" model) and not a 5K or 6K display to keep the pricing reasonable.
I am hoping they do tbh, as I only want a 24" iMac, but want the speed.
I guess I never considered the thermal output being the limiting factor. I, too, am the customer who would have preferred the smaller form-factor with the higher performance. I look forward to the 23” with great anticipation.
I also feel like it would be odd for Apple to shift from a 5K 27” model to a 4K 31.5” to balance the price. I feel like they wouldn’t compromise and allow their new machines to be seen as inferior to their Intel predecessors in any manner. Price be damned. “Look at this wonderful new machine! We’re passing the expenses on to you!”
This rings even truer to me with the retirement of the iMac Pro. It’ll likely still be cheaper than that machine was, and may even outperform with what we’re about to get. And... can’t quite afford the top of the line model? Settle for the 23”, and have a happy Apple.
0% chance they will increase the size and decrease the resolution. They pretty much always maintain the PPI when increasing the screen size of an existing product, but at the very least it would stay at 5K. 32“ @ 4K would be ~150 PPI and... yeah.... not gonna happen.
Don’t worry, Apple is not afraid to charge you more money
If it is 31.5”, I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the Pro Display XDR panel, but with much simpler backlighting to bring the costs in line. The XDR page on Apple’s website list reference modes including “Pro Display XDR (P3-1,600 nits)” and “Apple Display (P3-500 nits)”. The iMac could conform to the second of those only.
Yup, that's me! The larger iMac has always been a bit too big for me.
Also...
New iMac
Release: Seemingly imminent due to discontinued configs and new model identifiers found in beta code. Possibly at an event this month. Design: Reduced bezels, similar to Pro Display XDR. Flat edges and back. Maybe some extra color choices a la iPad Air. 23-24” for the smaller model, 27-32” for...
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I think a 4K display is perfectly fine for most people. It's certainly an upgrade from the 2K displays on most MacBooks.
If they made an 18" or 20" iMac again, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Do you think it'll still remain 16:9? That's one thing that I hope will stay.
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Retina displays work best when they are exactly pixel doubled. That is why more than 4K is needed.
0% chance they will increase the size and decrease the resolution. They pretty much always maintain the PPI when increasing the screen size of an existing product, but at the very least it would stay at 5K. 32“ @ 4K would be ~150 PPI and... yeah.... not gonna happen.
Don’t worry, Apple is not afraid to charge you more money
Oh I know Apple is willing to charge folks, but they still want to have an "entry level" model that is at least generally affordable.
Going from the current iMac 5K at $1999 to $2499 or even $2999 for an iMac 6K is going to sour a fair number of folks. Especially once you add another $200-400 for 16/32GB of RAM and $200-600 for 1TB/2TB of storage.
It is said that the LG panel in the Pro Display XDR is $1500 on it's own and I wonder how much LG can de-content it to make it cheaper. I suppose they could move to MiniLED instead of the current 576-zone LED lighting and as others have noted, it will be much closer to 600 nits than the XDR's 1600 nit peak brightness. There is also the claim Apple will be offering a new Thunderbolt Display and I presume it will use the 31.5" panel in the iMac so production scale between the two could help knock the price down.
Ill buy whatever they release, so long it sports a 10 gig nic. If it comes with a 30 inch screen, that will be the icing.
I thought the new display was pegged to match the smaller display in the 23” iMac. To me, that makes a little more sense than offering a 31.5” iMac-matched display and a 32” Pro Display XDR—a smaller “consumer” model display, and the larger Pro Display.
The current iMac 4K and iMac 5K displays have a ~218ppi rating.
If the new "smaller" iMac uses a 23.8" 4K display at 3840*2160 it would have a 185ppi rating. A 31.5" 5K display at 5120x2880 would also have a 187ppi rating. Now technically this is in the "bad zone" because it is below 200ppi, but considering it is a larger display and you would likely be sitting a bit farther back, it might still be considered "retina" especially with MiniLED backlighting offering higher peak brightness and better contrast than the current iMac 4K and 5K displays.
And best of all (for me, at least), it would mean you could use a 1920x1080 or 2560x1440 display as a secondary display and it would have the same effective resolution so no window resizing or other shenanigans.
If the new "smaller" iMac uses a 23.8" 4K display at 3840*2160 it would have a 185ppi rating. A 31.5" 5K display at 5120x2880 would also have a 187ppi rating. Now technically this is in the "bad zone" because it is below 200ppi, but considering it is a larger display and you would likely be sitting a bit farther back, it might still be considered "retina" especially with MiniLED backlighting offering higher peak brightness and better contrast than the current iMac 4K and 5K displays.
And best of all (for me, at least), it would mean you could use a 1920x1080 or 2560x1440 display as a secondary display and it would have the same effective resolution so no window resizing or other shenanigans.
Aye that does make sense.
Or maybe it will be the Cinema Display glory days again and we will have a 23.8" and a 31.5" model.
I can't see Apple making the display a downgrade from the current iMac 5K. That just isn't how Apple rolls.
I think that's highly unlikely, nearly impossible. Apple has moved to retina/hidpi displays for all their products. Every time they had a different ppi, like on the ipad, they had to explain why it works for that device. So the 4k and 5k imacs having the same ppi as the ipad, going to a 4k 31.5" would be a super low pixel density, and wouldn't be what apple could call "retina."
They wouldn't go backwards, or cheaper lol, only better and more expensive, which personally I'm fine with.
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