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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
  • Poll closed .

Icaras

macrumors 603
Mar 18, 2008
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I’m personally looking forward to an ARM based iMac. I feel like Apple’s pro apps could potentially run quite efficiently on one of these Macs.
 

Moonjumper

macrumors 68030
Jun 20, 2009
2,746
2,935
Lincoln, UK
Maybe the stagnant Mac appearances are part of a strategy to help acceptance of Arm chips if they are accompanied by new designs.
 

Cruciarius

macrumors regular
Aug 18, 2013
109
17
Massachusetts
My iMac redesign wishes:
• No internal speakers. Go back to external speakers. More internal space for better graphics card & more.
• Let the user open it up and work on the internals easier. Know this dislike users doing this, but the old magnetic screen to the body was superior to the adhesives they use now.
• Ditch the bezels. They're ugly.
• Upgradable full sized graphics cards.
• Swappable arm/stand.
 
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SKYNET-1

macrumors member
Feb 7, 2020
59
7
It is kind of time for me to update my 2011 iMac, but I don't need a new one right now.

I use my iMac mainly for webdevelopment, but I occasionally like to play games (but mostly AAA-titles on Windows, not the casual stuff).

I thought hard about upgrading my iMac to the 2019 one, but it feels to me this was a minor update and also that a redesign is around the corner (expecting 2020, maybe earlier, it happened before).

When a redesign happens, I expect:
  • Smaller bezels (as all new Apple's products have)
  • Improved display (but not expecting XDR display level)
  • SSD by default, starting with 256GB, no more fusion drive
  • T2 chip, or possibly T3
  • FaceID or TouchID
  • 10th generation intel
  • AMD Navi GPU
  • 16GB RAM by default (possibly not upgradeable anymore)
Some people are predicting Apple to switch to ARM processors in 2020. If this would be the case, gaming on Windows would be impossible right as far as I know.

im sure next gen of iMacs will have ryzen inside(see the MacOS 10.15.4 Beta hardware IDs), intel is too hot, too slow, to power hungry... the rest could be possible.
 

qap

macrumors 6502a
Mar 29, 2011
558
441
Italy
im sure next gen of iMacs will have ryzen inside(see the MacOS 10.15.4 Beta hardware IDs), intel is too hot, too slow, to power hungry... the rest could be possible.

In this case I would wait to buy it, at least 8/10 months after the public release
 

qap

macrumors 6502a
Mar 29, 2011
558
441
Italy
because of? not security leaks? half TDP at the same MT performance? the better driver support?
Because I remember the switch from PPC to Intel on a MBP and it was painful! A lot of troubles, display whining, hot, non perfectly aligned display, app emulation doesn’t work well, ecc... I would wait to see the problem but it’s not an easy switch, I wouldn’t buy a new iMac as a work device as soon as I will be released.
 

SKYNET-1

macrumors member
Feb 7, 2020
59
7
Because I remember the switch from PPC to Intel on a MBP and it was painful! A lot of troubles, display whining, hot, non perfectly aligned display, app emulation doesn’t work well, ecc... I would wait to see the problem but it’s not an easy switch, I wouldn’t buy a new iMac as a work device as soon as I will be released.

Yeah, but that was a massive change because they swapped the architecture to x86... So u compare apples with pears... Its like u would say "uhhh, apple changed the company where delivers the SSDs for the Macs, so i will wait hows works"
 

qap

macrumors 6502a
Mar 29, 2011
558
441
Italy
Yeah, but that was a massive change because they swapped the architecture to x86... So u compare apples with pears... Its like u would say "uhhh, apple changed the company where delivers the SSDs for the Macs, so i will wait hows works"

no it’s -almost- the same, macOS will need to be rewritten switching from x86 to ARM architecture :) as it was when Apple switched from PPC to Intel.
 

qap

macrumors 6502a
Mar 29, 2011
558
441
Italy
he was talking about AMD not ARM;)

oh okay, I thought we were talking about the latest rumor of a ARM Mac. So in the case of theswitch to AMD there will be no big troubles, just some macOS tuning and optimizing.
 

SKYNET-1

macrumors member
Feb 7, 2020
59
7
think only the macbook will get a ARM CPU, the MBP still full power with x86 hardware n the imacs, macs n mac minis too... ARM is too slow, maybe in 5-6 years enough power to switch on the big machines.
 

Freida

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Oct 22, 2010
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5,874
I guess if we are really getting AMD then WWDC stage time? Or next month? I think due that that alcohol drink we might not get much until its sorted so the spring event might not even happen. Lets see though ;)
 

CWallace

macrumors G5
Aug 17, 2007
12,525
11,542
Seattle, WA
I guess if we are really getting AMD then WWDC stage time? Or next month? I think due that that alcohol drink we might not get much until its sorted so the spring event might not even happen. Lets see though ;)

If there is a Mac Refresh that includes AMD CPUs, makes sense to announce it as WWDC that way the developers can be briefed about any internal changes while, being the second-most-covered annual Apple event, the end-users can be reassured that their AMD Macs will work exactly like their Intel Macs.
 
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Freida

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Yeah, thats what I think also.
I need iMac badly as I can't really work on my 2017 MBP (and refuse to buy external screen) but I'm not getting current gen. Tried it and it was ok but for that money I would rather wait so lets hope WWDC brings good news :)

If there is a Mac Refresh that includes AMD CPUs, makes sense to announce it as WWDC that way the developers can be briefed about any internal changes while, being the second-most-covered annual Apple event, the end-users can be reassured that their AMD Macs will work exactly like their Intel Macs.
 

zerozoneice

macrumors 6502
Jun 26, 2013
391
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no it’s -almost- the same, macOS will need to be rewritten switching from x86 to ARM architecture :) as it was when Apple switched from PPC to Intel.

recompiled, not rewritten
besides, once ARM macs appear even for internal testing purposes, someone will surely catch some benchmarks in the wild.
 

Cruciarius

macrumors regular
Aug 18, 2013
109
17
Massachusetts
Your suggestions break the essence and idea of all-in-one computers.

Yes, but the old shaving mirror designed iMac had external speakers. In my opinion, that design was better than the current design. Having the speakers external allows for us to upgrade them, if we wanted.
 

SKYNET-1

macrumors member
Feb 7, 2020
59
7
Yes, but the old shaving mirror designed iMac had external speakers. In my opinion, that design was better than the current design. Having the speakers external allows for us to upgrade them, if we wanted.

btw. somebody tried to disassemble the speakers from the 2011 27"? and then put the chassis from a 24" in? because the spkr from the 24" was much better.
 

askunk

macrumors 6502a
Oct 12, 2011
547
430
London
Yes, but the old shaving mirror designed iMac had external speakers. In my opinion, that design was better than the current design. Having the speakers external allows for us to upgrade them, if we wanted.

I believe you're talking about the iMac G4. It had an internal speaker. It wasn't even bad at the time. Much better than the PowerMac G4 speaker.
Almost everybody attached external speakers to it if they wanted even barely enjoy some music.

Nowadays, the iMacs have great speakers and I am pretty sure Apple will upgrade them to Dolby Atmos with the new iMac. And if you still require better quality, get your own and connect them. I don't see the problem.
 

ondert

macrumors 6502a
Aug 11, 2017
692
997
Canada
Aye! iMac’s speakers are great for most people and I like them. The 27” model has already some space for better Collins and going for all ssd makes it larger. For a new design, they might make it thicker like the 16” mbp.
 
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