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The battery issues are never widespread. Some people face it some don’t. It depends on a lot of factors. So really whatever we say here will not help you. I think Apple is still signing iOS 10.3.3. Update your pro and see if it’s fine. If not then you can go back to 10.3.3.

Ps. iPad specific features on iOS 11 are killer.
I held out on 9 for a long, long time because I was worried about battery life losses that I'd seen during the 10 betas. I upgraded to 10 only about six months ago.

I upgraded my Mini 4 and Air 2 during the first week after 11 was released publicly. I did not experience any changes in battery life with either, but both had some performance issues and I have downgraded both to 10.3.3 now.

The two things I really liked about 11 were the new keyboard and the new dock. I didn't like the extremely cartoonish look, and as mentioned I didn't like the performance issues. I will stay on 10.3.3 until I'm convinced that most of the performance issues have disappeared for most users.
Avoid the update on your Air. Unfortunately, I did it and now have a ipad that stutters, is slow, and will not stay connected to the internet.
All of this even after a reset and restore, and then a reset and set up as new. I fear I will soon be stuck with an expensive paperweight.
Avoid the update on your Air. Unfortunately, I did it and now have a ipad that stutters, is slow, and will not stay connected to the internet.
All of this even after a reset and restore, and then a reset and set up as new. I fear I will soon be stuck with an expensive paperweight.

Thank you for your feed back. I will stay in iOS10.3.3. on my iPad Air. It works well so and, besides that, it do not supports some features provide by iOS11, like multitasking. So I will not get in troubles..
In other hand, my iPad Pro 10,5" will run also iOS 10.3.3 until some later iOS version reachs more improvments and without assues.
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The battery issues are never widespread. Some people face it some don’t. It depends on a lot of factors. So really whatever we say here will not help you. I think Apple is still signing iOS 10.3.3. Update your pro and see if it’s fine. If not then you can go back to 10.3.3.

Ps. iPad specific features on iOS 11 are killer.
Avoid the update on your Air. Unfortunately, I did it and now have a ipad that stutters, is slow, and will not stay connected to the internet.
All of this even after a reset and restore, and then a reset and set up as new. I fear I will soon be stuck with an expensive paperweight.
Go back to 10.3.3 while you still can. Even if you don't have a backup to restore, you can rebuild most of what you had, and the performance gain is noticeable.
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Go back to 10.3.3 while you still can. Even if you don't have a backup to restore, you can rebuild most of what you had, and the performance gain is noticeable.

I'm still in iOS 10.3.3. So, after your kind advices I will keep that iOS version on my devices.
Thank you very much
 
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My iPhone 5 is on 10.3.3 and works fine & the same for my Air2.
I will update to 11 on the Air2 once I read that all the issues have been put to bed.

Question ?
Are Apple any way liable should the available update to a device ruin it as I have read from some posts on here.
 
My iPhone 5 is on 10.3.3 and works fine & the same for my Air2.
I will update to 11 on the Air2 once I read that all the issues have been put to bed.

Question ?
Are Apple any way liable should the available update to a device ruin it as I have read from some posts on here.

Apple is not liable if the device runs slower on a new OS version. Although seeing the Air 2 has 2 GB RAM anyway, I don’t think it will hamper your experience significantly.
 
My 4 year old iPad Air is running iOS 11 just fine. Really like the new keyboard and control panel. No significant slowness.
 
The battery issues are never widespread. Some people face it some don’t. It depends on a lot of factors. So really whatever we say here will not help you. I think Apple is still signing iOS 10.3.3. Update your pro and see if it’s fine. If not then you can go back to 10.3.3.

Ps. iPad specific features on iOS 11 are killer.
My 4 year old iPad Air is running iOS 11 just fine. Really like the new keyboard and control panel. No significant slowness.

My iPad Air is still running iOS 10.3.3. And by your experience, how do you feel the battery life? Do you notice some less life time? Or, put the same settings in iOS 11 you don't see significant differences?
 
My iPad Air is still running iOS 10.3.3. And by your experience, how do you feel the battery life? Do you notice some less life time? Or, put the same settings in iOS 11 you don't see significant differences?

My iPad 4 was sluggish on iOS 10.3.3 as well, so I sold it before iOS 11 was officially released. I bought a new iPad 2017 model and iOS 11 runs on it like a champ. Very satisfied with its battery life if I’m honest. Although iPads pack such a huge battery that I never felt the need to tracking the battery drainage anyway.
 
iOS 10 was the first release in a long time that did not bring significant slowdowns and might have even sped some things up. iOS 11 is unfortunately NOT in this category, at least according to the few timing tests that have been published, and in addition it drops 32-bit apps. This might or might not be an issue for you, check under Settings, there is a section for listing these apps.
 
My iPhone 5 is on 10.3.3 and works fine & the same for my Air2.
I will update to 11 on the Air2 once I read that all the issues have been put to bed.

Question ?
Are Apple any way liable should the available update to a device ruin it as I have read from some posts on here.

Do you mean "operates slowly" or "bricked/completely non-functional/won't power up"?
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My 4 year old iPad Air is running iOS 11 just fine. Really like the new keyboard and control panel. No significant slowness.

My Air 2 had noticeable lag/jerkiness. I agree on the keyboard and dock. I miss them, but on balance I was more upset by the poor performance of the Air 2.

My iPad Air is still running iOS 10.3.3. And by your experience, how do you feel the battery life? Do you notice some less life time? Or, put the same settings in iOS 11 you don't see significant differences?

Just to chime in with my data points, when I was on 11.0 and 11.0.1 I did not see any change in battery life. On the other hand, if you spend just a little time here, a lot of users are seeing drastic battery life problems. It's clear that there is a power management issue in 11 at this time - it's not just a few crazy people, there appears to be a real problem in 11.
 
I mean bricked, not running slowly.

Going by memory...lots of reports of bricked devices get solved by a DFU process, and those that can't be brought back to life have sometimes been replaced by Apple on a case by case basis. But there's no clear liability on Apple's part for a truly terminal update.
 
I’ve updated my Pro 10.5 but not my mini 4 or original Air. Was going to update the air this weekend to see how it went but with Apple no longer signing 10, meaning you can no longer downgrade, I’ll hold off. Not sure yet on the mini 4.
 
I would rather be at the latest iOS version and be a little slower, than hold my version level back due to worry about my aging hardware. If I'm really experiencing usage pain on my aged hardware, it's time to go upgrade.

But I get that not everyone has even that reasonable luxury.
 
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I’ve updated my Pro 10.5 but not my mini 4 or original Air. Was going to update the air this weekend to see how it went but with Apple no longer signing 10, meaning you can no longer downgrade, I’ll hold off. Not sure yet on the mini 4.

My own experience with the Mini 4 was annoying enough that I downgraded a couple of days ago. I loved the new keyboard and dock but hated the jerky/laggy performance.
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I would rather be at the latest iOS version and be a little slower, than hold my version level back due to worry about my aging hardware. If I'm really experiencing usage pain on my aged hardware, it's time to go upgrade.

But I get that not everyone has even that reasonable luxury.

And, in the case of a Mini 4, it isn't even possible to upgrade the hardware.
 
My iPhone 6s and iPad 2017 (fifth gen, non-pro, whatever...) both run just fine with 11. No slowdown, battery life is okay, just new features.

Maybe I'm living a semi-charmed kind of life.
 
My iPhone 6s and iPad 2017 (fifth gen, non-pro, whatever...) both run just fine with 11. No slowdown, battery life is okay, just new features.

Maybe I'm living a semi-charmed kind of life.

Not really, it is because they both have the A9 processor which is still a powerful CPU. The Air 2 has an A8 which is fairly outdated now.
 
Not really, it is because they both have the A9 processor which is still a powerful CPU. The Air 2 has an A8 which is fairly outdated now.

A8X, triple core. It beats the A9 in multi-core operations and lags slightly in single-core operations. Overall, not a lot different in real world use (as opposed to running benchmarks).
 
Here iPad Air 2 with iOS 11.1 beta 1. My iPad is now about 20% more slow then with iOS 10.3.3. Some bugs here and there but the system is stable. More battery drain now (around 15%).
 
11 is universally viewed as a nice step forward for ios, def recommended.
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I’ve updated both my devices to iOS 11(11.0.2 at this point)and I generally like it.. ignoring call quality issues on my iPhone for a sec.. The OS seems to be a touch snappier than iOS 10. Definitely love the dock and improved split screen mechanic on iPad.. though the dock seems to have hilarious issues with device orientation sometimes haha..

Definitely no battery issues here on either device. One thing I always keep in mind with portable devices and updates is.. that the first cycle under the new OS will be reduced battery life as various items are reindexing.

The updated video player, and Safari controls are also a plus.
 
A8X, triple core. It beats the A9 in multi-core operations and lags slightly in single-core operations. Overall, not a lot different in real world use (as opposed to running benchmarks).

I think the difference is due to limitation of RAM. Air has 1GB & both the 6S and iPad 2017 has got 2 GB.
 
I'm happy with iOS 11, I was tempted to load it as a beta on my 10.5, because everyone mentioned how great it was. I'm a little underwhelmed by it. Don't get me wrong, its not bad, but I kept hearing how my iPad Pro is being held back by 10.3 and I needed iOS 11 to really show its power. As someone said previous, its a nice incremental step forward.
 
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