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The issue with SSD failures with windows 11 looks to be on a specific SSD type and not Microsoft's fault - at least that's what this one article postulates. I've read other articles that narrow the issue to Phison, so that's something I suppose.

New report blames Phison's pre-release firmware for SSD failures — not Microsoft’s August patch for Windows

I'm curious how their pre-release firmware got on consumer systems or SSDs.

I've not seen this on my two Windows systems and heard about some strange SSD behavior a few months ago but nothing recently. The behavior was bricked devices.
 
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Nano11 is a stripped-down Windows 11 that shrinks to just 2.8GB by scrapping drivers and other 'fluff'

For those interested in maybe a more svelte installation. I find these debloated builds to be too debloated, as it impacts my ability to play games or even apply updates.

I had to rebuild my windows 11 install a while back, in part because I had debloated and it messed something up. The system ran up until I tried to update the system.

If you're getting mid-range Windows systems are better, then bloat doesn't really affect performance. It might be annoying more than an issue with space.

With the ability to replace NVMe drives, space is less of an issue too. I see some people buy minimal storage and then buy the size that they really want and other just get the largest as upgrading from 512 GB to 1 TB is usually $50.
 
Nano11 is a stripped-down Windows 11 that shrinks to just 2.8GB by scrapping drivers and other 'fluff'

For those interested in maybe a more svelte installation. I find these debloated builds to be too debloated, as it impacts my ability to play games or even apply updates.

I had to rebuild my windows 11 install a while back, in part because I had debloated and it messed something up. The system ran up until I tried to update the system.
Feels like those debloated version of Windows aren't designed to be updated normally.
 
If you're getting mid-range Windows systems are better, then bloat doesn't really affect performance. It might be annoying more than an issue with space.
I include all of the telemetry, marketing/advertisements, and non-critical stuff, as part of bloat. Windows itself isn't bloated, as much as what manufacturors put on there, like bloatware, i.e., McAffee and even Lenovo's Vantage app.

Now with the Copilot and recall, there's even more stuff to strip out of windows however.

Feels like those debloated version of Windows aren't designed to be updated normally.
No, and in all honesty that's a dangerous proposition, given the zero day vulnerabilities that seem to crop up with alarming regularity.
 
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I include all of the telemetry, marketing/advertisements, and non-critical stuff, as part of bloat. Windows itself isn't bloated, as much as what manufacturors put on there, like bloatware, i.e., McAffee and even Lenovo's Vantage app.

Now with the Copilot and recall, there's even more stuff to strip out of windows however.

No, and in all honesty that's a dangerous proposition, given the zero day vulnerabilities that seem to crop up with alarming regularity.

What I've found on the Yoga is that there is less marketing and ads with time - apparently if you don't respond to the ads a certain amount of the time, they leave you alone. I opt out of all the telemetry that I can but realize that it exists anyways.

The only thing that I observe right now, in terms of ads, is Windows widgets which is actually like the macOS sidebar. The ads seem to be concentrated there in the widgets. You don't have to use the widgets of course. What annoys me quite a bit is that the Windows 10 implementation of built-in services was better than Windows 11. Microsoft went to using what macOS was doing right about the same time when macOS went to on-screen widgets which I greatly prefer. I think it was back in Windows 7 or Windows 8 when Windows had on-screen widgets.

That thing with the App store ads earlier in the year was really awful and that was Windows and I'm glad that they got rid of it. It seems like they try experiments with ads and get rid of them if they are really offensive.

I have not had any bad ad issues with my desktop systems lately but I mainly use it to run two specific programs and do most of my office stuff on my iMac Pro. Not running Edge and using the "widgets" seems to keep the ads away.
 
Nano11 is a stripped-down Windows 11 that shrinks to just 2.8GB by scrapping drivers and other 'fluff'

For those interested in maybe a more svelte installation. I find these debloated builds to be too debloated, as it impacts my ability to play games or even apply updates.

I had to rebuild my windows 11 install a while back, in part because I had debloated and it messed something up. The system ran up until I tried to update the system.
Had a similar issue. Tried mini builds of Win 11 and a special debloat tool and telemetry removal. I have disabled telemetry in settings. Any type of tool or small build caused me problems. Broken things here and there. No updates, etc.

I would love a version of Windows debloated and with no telemetry. Heck, if Windows offered a paid version if cheap enough I would buy to have an official version of Windows that is debloated with telemetry disabled I would consider paying for it.

This brings up a point I have been struggling with. I have been a Windows user since Win 98. I grew up on IBM clones, Windows, and Apple and Linux.

Windows was always my home base so to speak. A familiar place where I know how everything works. I witnessed paid versions of Windows deliver half baked software and complained at the time. When MS went to free rolling release it sounded great at first but as time went by presented new problems even worse than the previous ones or rather in addition to them since some things never get fixed.

Now we are living at a time where everyone and everything is trying to snoop on you. The advent of social media the concept of making the user the product become embraced by all major companies that could figure out a reason to justify it. Since you don't pay for Facebook as an example for their services and they harvest as much personal data as possible to sell that and make a profit off of your life not off you paying. Looks like Microsoft has decided to try their hand at turning their huge customer base into $$ signs. This course of action has resulted in a worse experience for the user.

As a user paying $1500 on a Windows laptop I really don't want to be advertised too or have my data harvested from the OS on my laptop. I expect a basic level of security and privacy and I don't want my operating system to be snooping on me using AI in the background to do so. Learning my behavior and patterns so they can use that to sell me junk and possibly much worse and most likely the user would have no idea it is happening.

The idea of paying a monthly fee for co pilot premium adds insult to injury. Google and Samsung are doing the same thing while Apple it is just included. Everyone just blasts Apple about AI but I don't think they understand how it works fundamentally. Data and lots of it are needed for llms. Apple has the daunting task of trying to get massive amounts of data while not invading your privacy so that severely limits the speed at which their AI models can learn. Personally AI is not a big benefit but the potential for security and privacy concerns is huge. I would rather have less cutting edge AI and still have some semblance of privacy left.

I like running multiple OS but I have been really discouraged by the direction MS has been going for the last several years and I am afraid it continues to get worse not better.

I really hope there is a shake up at MS and they try new things that are old like paid versions of Windows with a strong focus on privacy. There is so much MS could do to improve Windows and make it a product you don't have to use the command line and hacks just to get it working right.
 
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I would love a version of Windows debloated and with no telemetry. Heck, if Windows offered a paid version if cheap enough I would buy to have an official version of Windows that is debloated with telemetry disabled I would consider paying for it.
Technically, I believe MS has a version, they have developed a trimmed down version of windows - the ROG Xbox Ally X. I don't know if the telemetry is turned off, but its a more svelte version with only a minimum set of services that are running.
This brings up a point I have been struggling with. I have been a Windows user since Win 98. I grew up on IBM clones, Windows, and Apple and Linux.
Yeah, I'm from the IBM PC days and using MS Dos 2.11. Skip a few years, and I remember at work, they had a single PC with windows 1.0 running back in the day - I thought that was fascinating.
 
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