Windows 7 RC Discussion

[war eagle]

I downloaded the ISO today but can't for the life of me figure out how to make the Windows 7 Disk.

I tried just burning the image to disk wasn't recognized by Boot Camp Assistant. Then I tried opening the disk image and dragging the files to the disc and burning it that way. Still didn't work in Boot Camp. I feel dumb, but what do I need to do to get Boot Camp to recognize the DVD?

Or more specifically what do I use to make an ISO disc?

You need to burn it as an iso. What it sounds like you are doing is just dragging the iso onto a blank disc and all that does is creates a data disc with the iso on it. If you have Toast or any other burning software it is fairly simple to do.

In other news I got the external to work I had to reformat it to FAT 32.. lost my stuff great!

 

[Eidorian]

I do believe you have to use Disk Utility to burn the disc. Not 100% sure.

That's what I did. I just dragged it into the left side panel, highlighted it, and burned it to disc.

 

[Cynicalone]

I do believe you have to use Disk Utility to burn the disc. Not 100% sure.

I'm attempting that now, thank you. Perhaps I'm not to good at these things.

EDIT: That did it. Thank you.

 

[flopticalcube]

I'm running it now in VirtualBox on my MB and I must say I am extremely impressed. It boots up quicker than Vista and running idle uses very few resources. When booting Vista (pre-sp1) my fans would spin like a wind tunnel and the temps would move into the upper 70s. Now I get mid-60s booting up and the fans are much quieter. It appears to be more responsive than Vista as well. Overall user experience is about the same. Apple needs to up their game now with SL.

 

[war eagle]

Anyone on a unibody having trouble clicking on things? Sometimes it seems as if I have to click numerous times for things to work.. Like it clicks on something then clicks right off.

 

[Eyedn]

I never thought i would say this after my Vista experiences but i am really enjoying using windows 7, the UI has a couple o flash new features i.e multiple boxes at bottom of screen (which is soo handy). I just hope they can "refine" it a bit so it would run faster.

 

[Skyldig]

Overall I'm impressed.

Still having trouble with the shortcut keys (light adjustment, sound adjustment, eject-key ect.). I hope someone finds a workaround soon, since the OSX disc doesn't work.

 

[gigadigit]

I currently have vista ultimate and leopard using bootcamp. Can I install windows 7 on another partition as tripleboot? will bootcamp let me do that?

 

[illegallydead]

I currently have vista ultimate and leopard using bootcamp. Can I install windows 7 on another partition as tripleboot? will bootcamp let me do that?

Short answer: NO.

Long answer: yes, but it takes some hacking to get it to work right.

Just upgrade from Vista. If you want to be safe, download Winclone and clone your Vista install. Then install Win7, and if something goes wrong or you don't like it (doubtful) then you can put Vista back on there easy...

 

[illegallydead]

Overall I'm impressed.

Still having trouble with the shortcut keys (light adjustment, sound adjustment, eject-key ect.). I hope someone finds a workaround soon, since the OSX disc doesn't work.

Do you have the 64-bit version? In that case you need the 64-bit drivers. You will need to get ahold of a Leopard disk from a Macbook Pro or Mac Pro.

Might not hurt to have these disks even if you have 32-bit...

 

[Cynicalone]

Got it up and running now, very fast and smooth. I must say I'm impressed so far. I'm running on the lower end of the Mac experience the 1.86GHZ C2D MacBook Air, with the SSD.

 

[-SD-]

I installed the x64 version on the Mac Pro this morning. I'm really impressed with how quickly it downloaded; Microsoft's servers were pumping away.

Everything is running perfectly fine on the Windows side without using the drivers supplied on the OS X disc. The only problem I'm getting is that XSI Mod Tool is giving me an error message about OpenCL drivers/settings. I need to spend time investigating the exact problem with this tomorrow. Other than that, Visual C# and XNA Game Studio seem to be running perfectly fine.

I did a fresh install on a brand new 500GB HDD without using Boot Camp or formatting first. This has resulted in an extra 100MB partition being created which mounts on the OS X desktop (along with Windows) called 'System Reserved'. It would appear there are ways to stop this from happening but I didn't realise this until I had installed everything. A little annoying but surely there must be a way to hide or auto-eject just this one mounted drive on boot

Overall everything seems fine and I'll spend some more time with it over the coming weeks. I need to see how well it's going to run with Parallels as I really do hate having to reboot into Windows unless I have to.

 

[sd2009]

x64 Win 7 / Macbook Pro Early 2008

During the Win 7 installation it says there are some required drivers. Unfortunately I can't access them because they're on the Leopard disc and I can't eject the Win 7 disc because Mac's don't have a real eject button

 

[xavious85]

So I just tried playing Portal from Steam. All it does is play the intro movie in a small window and then it quits. I'm currently update Half-Life 2 through steam so I don't know how that works but I'm assuming it will be the same result.

Anybody else try Steam on Windows 7?

 

[kanon14]

OK I successfully installed Windows 7 RC x64 on my 15" UMBP 2.53 yesterday. Everything is running smoothly and I must say it feels even "snappier" than the beta (duh), except for one thing. Heat. I think the heat is actually *worse* than it was in beta. Does anyone experience the same overheating? Is there any, ANY way we can adjust the fan speed under Windows?

 

[elgrecomac]

Win 7 - RC --- One man's opinion

This tread is not intended to flame but to be as factual as I could be, given that I own about $10,000 in Apple hardware and software and only use Windows for 3 apps that are industry standards for my profession: Visio, MS Project, AutoCad.

Having used the original release of Win 7 for many months on an every day basis and having recently installed Win 7 RC, I must tell you, the boys and girls in Washington State have finally got their s*** together. This is, BY FAR, the very best OS Microsoft has ever made.

Even though I am running both the 32 and 64 bit versions under Fusion on my MBP (17", 4gb RAM, 250gb disk, 2.66Ghz cpu)

1. Performance is very good...dare I say...excellent. I would love to try this either in Boot-camp or on a Dell laptop to see how it runs natively but I'm guessing it screams.
2. Look and feel remains solid. I have not noticed any screen 'twitchiness', blinking etc.
3. As with the initial release, Microsoft apps load incredibly fast, probably because they load some of the code when the system boots, but, hey, fast is fast.
4. The initial load/start time for the OS under Fusion is about 70 seconds...too long BUT how much of that is Fusion not being optimized for Win 7? Need to wait and see what VMware has up their sleeve.
5. The time to power down the OS is 14 seconds. Very acceptable.
6. installing apps is easy and uneventful.
7. File sharing with the 'host' MBP is easy to use.
8. The basic games are now working...big deal.
9. Switching to Unity mode is fast and works great so far.
10. Switching back to native mode from unity mode is a bit twitchy...screen flickers a bit. I bet this will be addressed when VMware officially release an upgrade that supports Win 7.
11. Apple wireless keyboard and mouse required no additional attention to work...they just, well, worked.

Does Apple have cause to be concerned?
Well, maybe. This is the REAL Vista. The one they SHOULD HAVE released.

Would I switch back to a PC because of Win 7?
No. It is a very good OS but I have no compelling reason to ditch OSX.

Will this product keep Apple's market share at the lowly single digits it has wallowed in for about 3 decades?
Hmm...tough one to answer but my guess is ...yes. Corporate America will drive this in the end but if the CIOs see what I am seeing, they are probably thinking what I am thinking.

 

[Tex-Twil]

Well I've just install it in VMware but aero doesn't look to be supported How are the drivers in bootcamp ?

 

[tdgrn]

It took a little bit of work, but I have everything working with my RC install, finally... HA. I think the Beta install went just a little smoother, but not much, and I haven't really had time to play with it to fully test everything out.

 

[elgrecomac]

One man's opinion....

double post...apologies.

 

[Skyldig]

Do you have the 64-bit version? In that case you need the 64-bit drivers. You will need to get ahold of a Leopard disk from a Macbook Pro or Mac Pro.

Might not hurt to have these disks even if you have 32-bit...

Well. I have my Leopard disc that came with my MBP, but it says it isn't compatible with my windows installation. It closes the program after 1 or 2 seconds.

Is there a way to install it manually? Which files in which folders on the drive installs the bootcamp menu?

 

[OZMP]

I have found that burning the ISO file with Disk Utility prevents this error. Otherwise there are guides on the web for how to get around this with Nero or whatever.

I did

 

[melchior]

it's nice that you went to the effort of making a list, but really, the only thing you mention of any consequence is that it's faster. which is good.

i would therefore conclude that your experience has been the same as mine, i appreciate that xp is finally going to be allowed to drift into the sunset and make using windows more productive when i need to, but it's still nothing special, except that one may say half-jokingly that it's a great accomplishment for microsoft.

windows 7, much like snow leopard, the good stuff is under the hood, except with SL there is hope, in time, with developers on board of really doing something special in making use of available resources. so it's nice, but it's not particularly exciting.

 

[steveza]

x64 Win 7 / Macbook Pro Early 2008

During the Win 7 installation it says there are some required drivers. Unfortunately I can't access them because they're on the Leopard disc and I can't eject the Win 7 disc because Mac's don't have a real eject button

I have the same machine but I didn't get prompted for drivers during install. I've installed both the 64bit and 32bit versions.

Well I've just install it in VMware but aero doesn't look to be supported

How are the drivers in bootcamp ?

There's no aero support in VMs. Boot camp drivers are fine for 32bit, with 64bit you might need to fiddle with it to get everything working. I use MacDrive which doesn't work with 64bit W7 yet.

 

[war eagle]

I have the same machine but I didn't get prompted for drivers during install. I've installed both the 64bit and 32bit versions.

There's no aero support in VMs. Boot camp drivers are fine for 32bit, with 64bit you might need to fiddle with it to get everything working. I use MacDrive which doesn't work with 64bit W7 yet.

64 bit worked just fine with my Boot Camp drivers. If yours arent working, i've heard you can download the 64 bit Vista drivers from Apple.

 

[steveza]

64 bit worked just fine with my Boot Camp drivers. If yours arent working, i've heard you can download the 64 bit Vista drivers from Apple.

Yeah the updated download worked for most things but it gave me lots of error messages. MacDrive didn't work at all so I had to go back to 32bit which worked fine. Like I said before I don't see any difference with the 64bit version speed wise so with only 4GB RAM there isn't much point in messing around with it.