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thefunkymunky

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Feb 24, 2005
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The Ambient Light Sensor even works with the display/backlight keyboard, with a little help from "input remapper" its actually kinda cool...

What do you need to configure to get the backlit keyboard working. Running Vista Ultimate RTM here, specs in sig. Also. Can anyone tell me how to get the screen brightness working. Mine is stuff on full brightness all the time.:confused:
 

balahir

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Jun 13, 2006
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Went from RC2 to ultimate today..running perfect. Audio still crankling,, not sure what that is about, and there is no right click on the trackpad (just using my mouse)....otherwise its perfect...apple just needs to update its drivers for vista and it will be even better...

Edit- Sounds works perfect now...has anyone figured out how to get the audio buttons to control the master volume? When I use the buttons it just changes the audio level on the keyboard control program and not the main sound on the MBP...any ideas?

Same for me. The same goes for the screen brightness which worked fine under XP. I have tried to extract the driver installer package but i can not find the files for the brightness - anybody knows ?
 

NATO

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Feb 14, 2005
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I've installed Vista Business, but I can't get right click working. How do you get right click support without actually having to use an external mouse? I'd prefer a keyboard method to avoid having to install the trackpad drivers (which apparently have problems coming out of sleep), but if needs be I'll install them.

If I have to install the trackpad driver, could you be specific as to exactly how to do it?
 

sixth

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Aug 16, 2006
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I am not aware of any trackpad driver unless there was one in a previous bootcamp release....
 

stevenz

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Dec 5, 2006
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Vista Business was released here 2 days ago, flatmate has it as sole-OS on his mac mini, works flawlessly.

Used bootcamp to convert partition table to the right format, then during the vista install deleted _all_ partitions and made the entire drive 1 big NTFS partition. Judging by the EFI directory on the install disk, Microsoft snuck in EFI support at the last minute.

Just booting to desktop uses just over 512Mb of RAM (default configuration in Parallels). The base install of Vista Business uses approx 9.6Gig of hard-disk. No point running Vista in a machine with less than 2Gb of RAM if you want to do anything of any merit. Pretty resource hungry compared to OSX which uses about 300Mb to desktop on my system (I've turned a lot of things off)

I don't think the bluetooth is working, but everything else seems 100%. We haven't tried installing the XP drivers onto it yet. Pretty sure I had that stupid Aero Glass interface running in parallels but it's not working at the moment, I probably turned something off that it needed though.

There seems to be daily updates for Vista at this stage. Today there has been 1 "important" and 3 "recommended" OS patches as well as 4 upates for its security software.

Looks pretty, don't like the file navigation system much, but then I don't like the system in OSX either. Pathfinder makes it more acceptable.
 

mzeb

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Jan 30, 2007
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Sure, no problem

Hey, so about the trackpad. Can you tell me how to get it to work? That'd be great if you could. Thanks :D

To install the apple driver ( note that this driver fails after sleep, meaning if you put your machine to sleep you won't have use of the trackpad ):
1) Start > Control Panel > Device manager
2) Expand the list of Human Interface Devices
3) Select the USB Human Interface Device second from the bottom of the list (this could vary if you have other usb devices installed)
4) Click the "Update Driver Software" button in the device manager toolbar
5) In the resulting dialog click "browse my computer for driver software"
6) Click "let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
7) If the option for "Apple Trackpad" doesn't show up then you have the wrong device. Apple's driver is unsigned so it will not install by default. If you select it here and finish with the install you'll have two finger scrolling and two finger clicking.

My current work around is using AutoHotKey (http://www.autohotkey.com). Install the program and add the following line to your AutoHotKey.ini and a command-click becomes a right click (like the good old Warcraft II/Diablo days :D ):

#LButton::RButton

Alternately for control-click

^LButton::RButton

Hope this helps
 

sixth

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Aug 16, 2006
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I did what you said above and i still have no right click...I am using the driver from the boot camp disc from the second folder, i have scrolling but no tapping or right clicking...
 

balahir

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Jun 13, 2006
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Apple BT mouse driver

Vista finds my Apple BT mouse, but the scroll "wheel" (or maybe orb is a better word) does not work. Any idea?
 

mzeb

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Jan 30, 2007
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No tap support yet

I did what you said above and i still have no right click...I am using the driver from the boot camp disc from the second folder, i have scrolling but no tapping or right clicking...

There isn't any tap support yet, to get the right click you have to hold two fingers on the track pad and click the button. I'm waiting on tap support too so I know where you're coming from :). It seems Apple hasin't implemented it yet though.
 

mzeb

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Jan 30, 2007
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Screen Brightness

What do you need to configure to get the backlit keyboard working. Running Vista Ultimate RTM here, specs in sig. Also. Can anyone tell me how to get the screen brightness working. Mine is stuff on full brightness all the time.:confused:

I don't have one of those cool backlit keyboards on my macbook, but I can advise about the brightness control.

Unpack the driver via "Install Macintosh Divers for Windows XP" /a /V and that will create some folders in the location you choose. One of those folders will be labeled "system32". Inside that you will find the brightness exe. Drop that in Windows\System32 (tell UAC to allow this) and then double click it (tell UAC to allow this). To make it start up when you log in put it in your start > all programs > startup folder. When you log in an icon will appear in your taskbar saying that some programs were blocked. This will be the brightness program. Once again. Allow it to start. Currently you'll have to do this every time you log in. I imagine apple will find a work around to this in the future but I don't know how to do it myself.
 

thefunkymunky

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Feb 24, 2005
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I don't have one of those cool backlit keyboards on my macbook, but I can advise about the brightness control.

Unpack the driver via "Install Macintosh Divers for Windows XP" /a /V and that will create some folders in the location you choose. One of those folders will be labeled "system32". Inside that you will find the brightness exe. Drop that in Windows\System32 (tell UAC to allow this) and then double click it (tell UAC to allow this). To make it start up when you log in put it in your start > all programs > startup folder. When you log in an icon will appear in your taskbar saying that some programs were blocked. This will be the brightness program. Once again. Allow it to start. Currently you'll have to do this every time you log in. I imagine apple will find a work around to this in the future but I don't know how to do it myself.

Hi, Thanks for the instructions. For some reason though I dont get the icon that tells me that some startup items have been blocked and when I manually run ¨Brightness.exe¨ nothing happens, no message or prompt, nothing. It doesnt even appear as a process running in ¨Task Manager¨.:confused:
 

blashphemy

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Dec 5, 2006
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where did you get your ultimate so fast?

newegg. theyve been selling Ultimate OEM editions for quite a while, ordered it Sunday night and it arrived Tuesday night (last night); it wouldve arrived earlier but UPS takes its time to come to my house :p

i dont think you even need boot camp to run Vista. originally, i tried to pirate vista back in November or so when I learned that RTM versions were available on the P2P networks, but I was having trouble getting the installer to run after boot. I look into the ISO to try and do a little bit of worthless troubleshooting and lo and behold theres a folder named "efi"! So I put the disc into my CD iMac and hit the Option key while it was booting up so instead of seeing a Mac HDD and a Windows HDD, I saw a Mac HDD, a Windows HDD, and a Windows CD! Trying to install off the Vista DVD on the Mac resulted in the same problem at the time.

Now:

1) That was an RTM ISO. What probably went wrong was that the disc burner on my Dell sucked. So, although I haven't checked, Vista probably supports EFI and can probably install on a Mac A-OK.

2) Vista comes with a BUNCH of drivers for it. When I ran the Vista Upgrade Advisor on my Dell, it had drivers for every single bit of hardware in my 3-yr old system except for my sound card, and Dell had those drivers available for download. Chances are, Vista will be have drivers for most everything in an iMac or any other Mac, but I would try to run the Vista Upgrade Advisor off of XP on Boot camp before trying to upgrade to make sure.

edit: Oh wait haha someone already mentioned EFI. lol.

About the brightness:

Create a shortcut to brightness.exe in system32 and drop it into the Startup folder in the Start menu, although you might have to drop the actual EXE in the Startup folder. What this means: Windows will run everything in the Start menu when you boot up your machine, so you shouldn't have to worry about starting it every time you boot up.
 

thefunkymunky

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About the brightness:

Create a shortcut to brightness.exe in system32 and drop it into the Startup folder in the Start menu, although you might have to drop the actual EXE in the Startup folder. What this means: Windows will run everything in the Start menu when you boot up your machine, so you shouldn't have to worry about starting it every time you boot up.

I've done that already but "Brightness.exe" just does not load. It just doesn't appear as a running process in Task Manager.:confused:

Are there some folks who have "Brightness.exe: working then?
 

iProd

macrumors regular
Feb 26, 2006
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To install the apple driver ( note that this driver fails after sleep, meaning if you put your machine to sleep you won't have use of the trackpad ):
1) Start > Control Panel > Device manager
2) Expand the list of Human Interface Devices
3) Select the USB Human Interface Device second from the bottom of the list (this could vary if you have other usb devices installed)
4) Click the "Update Driver Software" button in the device manager toolbar
5) In the resulting dialog click "browse my computer for driver software"
6) Click "let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
7) If the option for "Apple Trackpad" doesn't show up then you have the wrong device. Apple's driver is unsigned so it will not install by default. If you select it here and finish with the install you'll have two finger scrolling and two finger clicking.

My current work around is using AutoHotKey (http://www.autohotkey.com). Install the program and add the following line to your AutoHotKey.ini and a command-click becomes a right click (like the good old Warcraft II/Diablo days :D ):

#LButton::RButton

Alternately for control-click

^LButton::RButton

Hope this helps

Hmm, it didn't work for me. None of them had the option for Apple Trackpad. I did notice when installing the drivers initially, it said it was rolling back actions. So could this mean it removed some of the things it was trying to install?
 

weckart

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I've done that already but "Brightness.exe" just does not load. It just doesn't appear as a running process in Task Manager.:confused:

Are there some folks who have "Brightness.exe: working then?


You will just have to invoke the Brightness manually each time you start up from your Startup folder by double clicking on it. It is designed for XP and does not quite work yet with Vista.

The other issue you will find with the Brightness control is that the stepping in brightness intensity is quite crude. You go from too bright at the highest setting to too dim for the next setting down. Either way, a bit unsatisfactory.

Apple will possibly release updated drivers in due course.
 

balahir

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Jun 13, 2006
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You will just have to invoke the Brightness manually each time you start up from your Startup folder by double clicking on it. It is designed for XP and does not quite work yet with Vista.

The other issue you will find with the Brightness control is that the stepping in brightness intensity is quite crude. You go from too bright at the highest setting to too dim for the next setting down. Either way, a bit unsatisfactory.

Apple will possibly release updated drivers in due course.

Actually, on my iMac C2D, the brightness settings are not crude at all, but works exactly as in XP. Also, after placing brightness.exe in the startup folder, the program loaded directly at start-up and adjusted the brightness, just as in XP.

Does anybody have a clue why the scroll "wheel" on my Apple BT mouse does not work in Vista?
 

mzeb

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Jan 30, 2007
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Hmmm...couldn't tell you on this one

Actually, on my iMac C2D, the brightness settings are not crude at all, but works exactly as in XP. Also, after placing brightness.exe in the startup folder, the program loaded directly at start-up and adjusted the brightness, just as in XP.

Does anybody have a clue why the scroll "wheel" on my Apple BT mouse does not work in Vista?

I'd check your mighty mouse on this one. I have the same mouse and it's been working fine, as far as up and down scrolling is concerned. The side to side scrolling is not standard mouse movement and the default driver installed for the mighty mouse can't support it. You're gonna have to wait for an Apple driver for the mighty mouse. If neither upand down nor side to side scrolling is working that's a different issue entirely. I'd check in with apple on that one and see if your mouse is still working
 

tehdee

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May 7, 2006
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hi all. i did a fresh install from bootcamp, using the vista rc2 build 5744 with a genuine key.

installed, etc... without a hitch. now im in windows though and desperately trying to load the drivers. i've been following these directions:

10. Insert your "Macintosh Drivers for Windows XP" CD and click start and in the search box type run and hit enter. You need to add 2 switches to the run dialogue so after you navigate to the "Install Mac Drivers.exe" click open. Then add /A /v the command. It should look something like "D:\Install Macintosh Drivers for Windows XP.exe" /A /v This will extract the drivers without running the install program which is incompatible with Vista. You should now have a Program Files and System32 folder wherever you extracted the .exe

but it doesn't seem to work. can anyone shed some light?
 

balahir

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Jun 13, 2006
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I'd check your mighty mouse on this one. I have the same mouse and it's been working fine, as far as up and down scrolling is concerned. The side to side scrolling is not standard mouse movement and the default driver installed for the mighty mouse can't support it. You're gonna have to wait for an Apple driver for the mighty mouse. If neither upand down nor side to side scrolling is working that's a different issue entirely. I'd check in with apple on that one and see if your mouse is still working

Thnaks for your help, mzeb, but I don't think it's the mouse. The scroll wheel works perfectly in OSX so I guess it's a driver issue...?
 

weckart

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Actually, on my iMac C2D, the brightness settings are not crude at all, but works exactly as in XP. Also, after placing brightness.exe in the startup folder, the program loaded directly at start-up and adjusted the brightness, just as in XP.

It's probably hardware bound. I have a MBP C2D. I have seen other posts from people running the beta on the same hardware. The release of the final version did not seem to fix the bug.

Another thing I have noticed is that if I shutdown Windows by holding down the power button, it restarts as expected with the "safe" menu. However, the keyboard does not work until it has booted up, so you are left waiting until the clock has counted down and it has booted up the default setting, which is "normal".
 

thefunkymunky

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Feb 24, 2005
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You will just have to invoke the Brightness manually each time you start up from your Startup folder by double clicking on it. It is designed for XP and does not quite work yet with Vista.

The other issue you will find with the Brightness control is that the stepping in brightness intensity is quite crude. You go from too bright at the highest setting to too dim for the next setting down. Either way, a bit unsatisfactory.

Apple will possibly release updated drivers in due course.

Doesnt work for me. Even if I manually double click it after I start up, it doesnt load.
 

cocacola5373

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Sep 8, 2006
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Sixth, just a quick question, how did you solve your audio stuttering issues?

Cheers for the help in advance.
 

weckart

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Doesnt work for me. Even if I manually double click it after I start up, it doesnt load.

This may or may not help. Right click on brightness.exe in your System32 folder and select Properties. Tick the box "Run as administrator". For good measure, you may want to select compatibility mode with XP as well. When you double click this now, it should come up with a dialogue box asking whether you want to proceed, which, of course, you do. You should then see the brightness icon appearing in the system tray.

No guarantees, but I think I had to do this to get this and other reluctant programs to run under Vista due to the increased security built in.
 

apfhex

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Aug 8, 2006
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This evening I installed Vista Ultimate on my Boot Camp partition. I chose to do a "clean install" - from the installer I formatted my BC partition (which was clearly labeled in a nice GUI) and then installed. The installer is much faster than XP's and doesn't require any user interaction. Basically a lot like OS X's.

There were some hiccups getting it running, and it was a pain to install supposed "Vista compatible" software like AVG and Acrobat Reader. The UAC is a big pain, but some things don't work right if you turn it off! Also, due to the new permissions stuff, some settings don't seem to sick, and Firefox can't be set as the default browser (I seem to have fixed it by launching it with Administrator Privileges once).

I used my Boot Camp driver CD (1.1.2b). The installer worked up to a point but exited with some sort of error. However, the Realtek audio drivers and Apple Keyboard support installed, which is all I really needed for my Mac Pro. Sadly, the internal speaker is still active unless I plug something into the headphone port (well, they're the same drivers as before, so no surprise really). The Realtek Sound Manager tells me there are updated Vista compatible drivers available at the website, but I don't want to mess with that since sound is working fine for now.
 

sixth

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If you already have installed boot camp and vista is there a way to delete and resize the OSX partition and just have Vista as the only OS on the machine? Just curious....
 
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