windows vista on boot camp

[bazzevo]

The D-Link ones did not work for me. I used a different one that I believe was part of the drivers cd of an IBM Thinkpad / Leonovo. Message or email me and I'll send you the installer. Just install it over the old one. No need to uninstall your old drivers. Worked like a charm for me. No stuttering at all. I wouldn't mind uploading it here so any admin please let me know if attatching is allowed here.

Which driver was it you used to get it working ok?

bazzevo

 

[cocacola5373]

Which driver was it you used to get it working ok?

bazzevo

Email me and I'll send you the file. The file name is "atheros ar-5008-6.0.2.75-9x2kxp"

 

[dgdosen]

Bluetooth?

6) Bluetooth: getting this working is a bit of a trick, but it does work. Both my mighty mouse and my Motorola E815 work in Vista with apple's bluetooth support. It must be installed manually through device manager.

I haven't been able to get the bluetooth stack working. Vista is unable to load drivers, and whenever I try to load the drivers from the Apple driver CD, Vista comes back and says it already has the latest drivers....

I need my BT phone setup as a modem!

I have to say - Vista on the mac is sweet. I get a perf score of 4.5, and that's only limited by the hard drive.

 

[dgdosen]

Wha....?

I've worked with Vista on a Mac Pro using boot camp and have not found it to be the easiest installation. Windows Vista has trouble being made the secondary partition on a secondary drive and will not allow you to install it from booting the DVD under certain conditions. A general workaround I found to any issues with Vista not being satisfied with the drive configuration is rather simple and also works if XP is already on the machine and it won't upgrade:

• Install Windows XP (if not already on)
• Start Windows XP
• Open Vista installer from XP and do a custom install
• Have the installer leave the partitions intact, but move the XP stuff to a folder (Windows.old)

This setup will keep your partition setup exactly the way Boot Camp likes it for XP (no removal of the EFI partition, for example) and opens up some less conventional options like installing on the second, third, or fourth drive on the Mac Pro even if Vista won't let you. Beyond that, the Mac Pro seems to run very well with Vista. Sound and graphics drivers work fine, although the sound drivers seem to take a little work to get just right. Also, it does not seem currently possible to use the Boot Camp installation of Vista with the new RC for Parallels like you can with XP (i.e. dual boot and virtualize from one install of the OS on a physical partition). It may be possible soon, as Parallels seems to get updated quickly or there may be some particular tinkering that makes it work.
Personally, after working with Vista for a little while, I think I prefer Windows XP since I only use Windows for a few games and programs from time to time and don't need an OS that uses 512MB of RAM when it idles to do that. The performance hit of going from XP to Vista is similar to going from Mac OS 9.1 to Mac OS 10.0 and Vista can be almost as buggy in parts. The best bet is to wait for a little more optimization and patches. Besides, by then Boot Camp and Parallels will have much better native support for Vista.

I'm not sure what you're doing, but the RTM of Vista installs like a champ. You need to install it on the partition you create with Bootcamp, and that's pretty easy to see during the install process.

On top of that, I'm waiting with bated breath for Parallels to support that partition in a VM.

 

[capoditutti]

I've got an opportunity to get Vista RC1 and have a bit of a play - if i install it and get it working well am i gonna get registration/activation hassle from MS?

 

[mzeb]

Registration

I've got an opportunity to get Vista RC1 and have a bit of a play - if i install it and get it working well am i gonna get registration/activation hassle from MS?

If you get it installed you will run into registration issues after 30 days. The Beta 2/RC1 keys have been shut off as the final version has been released. So you'll be able to play with it for a little while but not long.

 

[mzeb]

Bluetooth drivers

I haven't been able to get the bluetooth stack working. Vista is unable to load drivers, and whenever I try to load the drivers from the Apple driver CD, Vista comes back and says it already has the latest drivers....

I need my BT phone setup as a modem!

I have to say - Vista on the mac is sweet. I get a perf score of 4.5, and that's only limited by the hard drive.

I don't know what state you're in at the moment, but the way I managed to install the bluetooth drivers is by running the apple installer (the full thing) and then going through device manager and installing from a list of drivers if it didn't install properly during the install. Vista will not install Apple's driver automatically. You can't do the "search for an available driver" because that will not install an unsigned driver (which almost all of apple's drivers currently are). As for the perf score, damn . Can you give me the full breakdown of your scores? I'm curious if the MBP could break a 5 with a 7200RPM HD. (There's a little competition going on to find laptops that break a 5 )

 

[dgdosen]

I don't know what state you're in at the moment, but the way I managed to install the bluetooth drivers is by running the apple installer (the full thing) and then going through device manager and installing from a list of drivers if it didn't install properly during the install. Vista will not install Apple's driver automatically. You can't do the "search for an available driver" because that will not install an unsigned driver (which almost all of apple's drivers currently are). As for the perf score, damn . Can you give me the full breakdown of your scores? I'm curious if the MBP could break a 5 with a 7200RPM HD. (There's a little competition going on to find laptops that break a 5 )

Hmm... Even when I point to the Apple drivers, I still can't get them installed. No matter, I don't need Bluetooth just yet. I would like it to use the laptop and a 3G phone as a BT modem. I need to wait until the end of February to run out before I can make the switch to Cingular and the Blackjack...

Perf Score = Performance Score, not Perfect Score... My MBP only has a score of 4.5 (Only! - I've only seen C2D desktops with a higher score).

My scores are:
Proc - 5.2
Ram - 4.8 (2G)
Graphics - 4.9
Gaming Graphics - 4.9
Disk - 4.5

I'm sure a faster drive might nudge it to a 4.8, but there are other limiting factors. If anything, I'd like a larger HD for bigger partitions for windows/mac

Even though these Apple device drivers aren't RTM, they're working OK. Certainly better than the craptacular Toshiba drivers I'm using on my work PC. I alway thought the ability to wake a PC up from sleeping was something Windows didn't do very well. Now I realize it's the hardware.

This thing rocks. Imagine when the quad procs come out.

 

[bazzevo]

Email me and I'll send you the file. The file name is "atheros ar-5008-6.0.2.75-9x2kxp"

yep that driver worked for me fine. Thanks dude. Also its a good idea to update the firewire driver too. this seamed to help a few other issues i was having with newer hardware.

 

[NYJetsFan]

That easy?

Am I missing something, or can I just use Boot Camp and make a new partition, then buy a Vista disk and install. Is it really that easy? (aside from the drivers)
More specifically is it just like XP, where you hold down option and can boot to Mac or Win?

Thanks.
"D"

 

[apfhex]

Is it really that easy? (aside from the drivers)

Yes. It's no different than installing XP. The Option boot thing is part of the Mac's bootloader, doesn't matter what OS it is.

 

[wcprice]

Can't Get Auto Updates on Vista

I installed Vista on my Mac Pro. It started an automatic driver search for "unidentified hardware" -- these didn't work. Then Vista told me it had six updates to download and install. When I told it to install, it said it had downloaded, but could not install. THen, when I tried a manual download/install from the Microsoft website, the install failed because of "insufficient memory" -- I have two gigabytes of memory.

Anyone have any idea what's going on? Vista looks beautiful, but this is all pretty annoying.

Clark Price
Mac Pro 2.66, Radeon X1900 XT

 

[dgdosen]

I installed Vista on my Mac Pro. It started an automatic driver search for "unidentified hardware" -- these didn't work. Then Vista told me it had six updates to download and install. When I told it to install, it said it had downloaded, but could not install. THen, when I tried a manual download/install from the Microsoft website, the install failed because of "insufficient memory" -- I have two gigabytes of memory.

Anyone have any idea what's going on? Vista looks beautiful, but this is all pretty annoying.

Clark Price
Mac Pro 2.66, Radeon X1900 XT

There are still issues with all the devices having drivers - I don't have bluetooth support working, and the trackpad isn't allowing two finger scrolling.

But I've never had an issue with updates not running.

I have had issues with apps not installing due to "insufficient memory" - for example Acrobat Reader - I'm not sure what that is and that is annoying. Instead, during the web install, I found where the underlying setup files are temporarily dropped and copied from there to somewhere else. I then manually ran the setup after the web download installation fails and deletes it's temporary files during the cleanup.

 

[diveart]

Newbie to Mac

Hi Everyone, Great site - wish I knew about it 2 days ago.

Just got my 1st Macbook Pro - 3G RAM; 200G HD. I first started with Parallels which was really cool but couldn't get my VPN to work so I found Bootcamp. I did the install of Vista Ultimate with no problems but the drivers didn't install. Found the message to install manually did that (Keyboard, Chipset, Intel Graphics, iSight, NVIDIA, Realtek, and SigmaTel were the only ones that installed). I'm having the following problems which any help would be appreciated:

ATI drivers give an error on bootup.
No wireless internet/network (tried Add New Hardware but it didn't find anything called Airport).
Some of the folders I extracted when I tried to run - gave an error message of "Unsupported OS"

Any ideas? Should I copy the ones that didn't install to my Windows System32 folder?

Thanks

 

[bloodycape]

What graphic drivers are you guys with MBP using? I am using the beta vista drivers ati released and I get a 4.0 on my graphics and 4.3 for gaming graphics.

 

[MagicWok]

More questions... lol

Is there a way I could install Vista, using Bootcamp or otherwise, onto an external HDD via FW800? Just wondering if it is possible, so I wouldn't have to partition my internal HDD in my MBP.

Cheers!

Right on, same question.

Anyone help?

 

[CallMeTheArrow]

Vista RTM on Mac Mini

Hello all. I need to know - does Vista come with working sound drivers for the Mac Mini, or can they be obtained on Windows Update after installation? I had trouble getting the Apple supplied ones to work on beta 2, RC1 and RC2 (in fact, never did get it working on those). If the sound does work with Vista on an Intel Mac mini, I would love to know and know how - thanks in advance.

 

[conshok26]

I have vista on my MBP. there's two things that are giving me problems on it. one is that after vista is running for some time and some heat gets built up it can just crash and then restart. the other problem i have is that the screen saver never goes on. I had it installed on my mini and i didn't have either of those issues. just wondering if anyone is having the experience.

 

[CallMeTheArrow]

Mac Mini working great with Vista

Mac Mini works great with Vista - including sound. Have to install both RealTek and SigmaTel drivers from BootCamp first.

 

[cherfizzle]

what about home premium?
everyone said they installed Ultimate.

any version work on imac?????

 

[elenchos]

what about home premium?
everyone said they installed Ultimate.

any version work on imac?????

I'm having a problem with Vista Home Premium 64bit on my 20in iMac. I can't seem to get the sound card drivers to work correctly. They install as HD compatible audio, but they don't seem to produce any sound. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[ipoddin]

What's the recommended boot camp partition size for Vista? My current BC partition for XP is about 32gb and with what I use XP for, there's about 18gb free space now.

Should I be concerned with that much space or should I just wipe out the BC partition, start over with a bigger partition and then upgrade to Vista? Ideally I'd prefer to use my external firewire 800 1tb drive since I have gobs of space there.

Last question, if I end up deleting the current BC partition, is it just a matter of dragging the partition to the trash to reclaim that space?

 

[apfhex]

What's the recommended boot camp partition size for Vista? My current BC partition for XP is about 32gb and with what I use XP for, there's about 18gb free space now.

Last question, if I end up deleting the current BC partition, is it just a matter of dragging the partition to the trash to reclaim that space?

No, the partition isn't a "file" that you can just delete. You must use the Boot Camp Assistant to non-destructively remove the partition.

I created a 32GB partition for XP and now with Vista on it, with very little extra installed (just a couple GB of things), it's taking up half of that, about 15GB. So 32GB is more then enough if you're not creating any huge files, copying your music library over, etc. Vista's "Shadow Copy" (Time Machine) feature takes up a lot of space over time. It says it will only use up to 15% though. It's possible to turn it off (but they sure do hide the option deep down!).

 

[ipoddin]

No, the partition isn't a "file" that you can just delete. You must use the Boot Camp Assistant to non-destructively remove the partition.

I created a 32GB partition for XP and now with Vista on it, with very little extra installed (just a couple GB of things), it's taking up half of that, about 15GB. So 32GB is more then enough if you're not creating any huge files, copying your music library over, etc. Vista's "Shadow Copy" (Time Machine) feature takes up a lot of space over time. It says it will only use up to 15% though. It's possible to turn it off (but they sure do hide the option deep down!).

Yeah, remembered Boot Camp Assistant and looked at that. But I think I'm going to stick with existing partition. I don't plan on copying over my music and photo libraries so I should be good to go. If not, then I'll start all over with fresh partition.

 

[grokit]

Good guides to installing Vista on Macbook pro with Boot Camp

I also just put Vista on my MacBook Pro using bootcamp.

I found three articles to be very useful:

1) Vista Boot Camp Installation Guide (very thorough -- missing manual almost)
http://www.geocities.com/nja469/

2) DifferentThings blog - another install story:
http://differentthings.wordpress.co...h-on-a-macbook-pro-running-windows-vista-rtm/

3) DifferentThings blog - Final two bootcamp drivers for Vista
http://differentthings.wordpress.com/2007/02/05/final-two-boot-camp-drivers-for-vista/

Here's the key:

- the initial install goes very smoothly if you just follow the directions
- the first think you should do after installing, is install keyboard remapping software, available here: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=34515
- do not install the mac keyboard driver at all, as it conflicts with the keyboard mapper
- then install other drivers one by one from the bootcamp driver disk, as described in the above articles

Using this approach went very smoothly and I now have iSight, Wifi, Bluetooth, and all function keys working.

Now if I can just get my pesky external firedrive to work...