This is a little off topic, but I don't see what's so illegal about it. Yeah, I know, every version of OSX is an "upgrade." But so what. If you own a boxed copy of Tiger, why can't you load it on whatever computer you want?matperk said:
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There are no boxed copies of the Intel version of OS X so far, so the only way to get it for now is to steal it from a Mac.gammamonk said:
The other problem is that the license contains language about using the software only on Apple hardware, though people disagree if that part would really stick. In any event it certainly won't be supported.
C'mon people - this is a momentus occasion!!
Same here. It would be stupid to use your Window$ partition for anything other than gaming. I welcome the whole concept of being able to do all your normal 'Mac' stuff and then when you feel the need for some entertainment, reboot and you have a PC dual core gaming firecracker at your disposal.
Hardware video acceleration will be the next thing in the pipeline for these guru's to implement.
I can't believe there are some Mac fanboys on these forums (mind you I am one) that don't think this is a great concept . All in all this is a great moment for Mac users. We can now have EVERYTHING on our Mac's!!!
aussie_geek
nsknike said:
Same here. It would be stupid to use your Window$ partition for anything other than gaming. I welcome the whole concept of being able to do all your normal 'Mac' stuff and then when you feel the need for some entertainment, reboot and you have a PC dual core gaming firecracker at your disposal.
Hardware video acceleration will be the next thing in the pipeline for these guru's to implement.
I can't believe there are some Mac fanboys on these forums (mind you I am one) that don't think this is a great concept
. All in all this is a great moment for Mac users. We can now have EVERYTHING on our Mac's!!! aussie_geek
There's a couple of issues here that I can think of and one of them's new:
1. How difficult is this going to be to achieve and, more importantly, how risky is it? Can I permanently kill my Mac with this or is there a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card that can be played should things go wrong?
2. Not and issue with an iMac or Mac Mini, but with a MacBook Pro will you be able to right-click without an external mouse connected?
I'm very happy at the news and the OS selector screen looks a bit swish. What would be nice is the ability to save the state of each OS when switching from one to the other but I guess that's a bit of a pipe dream and something best left to the virtualisation route. With another 6-months or so before I replace my PowerBook the future is looking very promising and I'll finally be able to scrap my ageing P4 system.
1. How difficult is this going to be to achieve and, more importantly, how risky is it? Can I permanently kill my Mac with this or is there a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card that can be played should things go wrong?
2. Not and issue with an iMac or Mac Mini, but with a MacBook Pro will you be able to right-click without an external mouse connected?
I'm very happy at the news and the OS selector screen looks a bit swish. What would be nice is the ability to save the state of each OS when switching from one to the other but I guess that's a bit of a pipe dream and something best left to the virtualisation route. With another 6-months or so before I replace my PowerBook the future is looking very promising and I'll finally be able to scrap my ageing P4 system.
kenzbud said:Counter Strike
Counter Strike SOURCE!!!!
Battlefield 2
Star Wars Battlefront ... Um yes it is already on Mac but there is never anyone playing it online
Star Wars Galaxies>>>
the list goes on!!!
aussie_geek
aussie_geek said:Counter Strike SOURCE!!!!
Battlefield 2
Star Wars Battlefront ... Um yes it is already on Mac but there is never anyone playing it online
Star Wars Galaxies>>>
the list goes on!!!
aussie_geek
he he he...just finished playing battlefield 2 - european special force...see you in the field mac boy...between my iron site! I have SLI and battlefield 2 looks pretty!!
Kelmon said:
Maybe we could use a firewire HD or when the intel PowerMac's are released we could just have another drive totally committed to running Window$.
As for the rest of the Mac (chips / boards / cards etc) I'm not sure - can anyone clarify if there is hardware modifications required to do this? Is there any flashing of eprom's here or opening up the Mac and re-soldering jumpers?
aussie_geek
aussie_geek said:Counter Strike SOURCE!!!!
Battlefield 2
Star Wars Battlefront ... Um yes it is already on Mac but there is never anyone playing it online
Star Wars Galaxies>>>
the list goes on!!!
aussie_geek
here is what I wanna play: Star Wars Empire At War
As far as I know, all the modifications are done through software. No flashing any firmwares, or major modifications. If you screw up, just reinstall OS X and start over.
Wow I didn't think this would happen so quick. I want to see where this goes. I just hope it doesnt go negative.
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Brilliant work! I would help donate if it meant closer to a hardware release and would buy if it did.
Brilliant work! I would help donate if it meant closer to a hardware release and would buy if it did.
i think this is great. next time my dad wants a new PC, I can tell Apple h/w will boot into Windows too. Make mom happy too b/c she hates using the PC cause it's too complicated.
Windows booting eases 'switching' fears. I'm sure someone had already said it.
Windows booting eases 'switching' fears. I'm sure someone had already said it.
I just hope this is not officially supported by Apple...otherwise, NO developer will care about porting anything to OS X...and why? Because you WILL have the choice of buying a crappy copy of XP for 100 bucks and running everything PC-friendly on it...
I don't see any reason for celebration, apart from gamers that feel like playing the latest Star Wars blablabla on their white Macs...
A sad day for the Mac community indeed.
I don't see any reason for celebration, apart from gamers that feel like playing the latest Star Wars blablabla on their white Macs...
A sad day for the Mac community indeed.
I welcome this news. Though not for the gaming potential that so many rant about.
This will now allow me to have 1 computer and run all the applications I want / need to. It is not as neat as running VPC but since VPC or equivalents have some way to go on the Mac/Intel platform then it is a good start.
I have several applications that I need to run that simply do not have Mac Versions. I also develop applications that have to run on Windows platform. I therefore do not care about whether there are native video drivers. Rebooting to switch between OS's is a pain but tolerable. Disabling the network adaptor in the windows device manager is simple.
My iMac purchase has just moved 1 step closer. All I need now is some more Universal Applications. Lets have those Photoshop on XP on iMac benchmarks.
This will now allow me to have 1 computer and run all the applications I want / need to. It is not as neat as running VPC but since VPC or equivalents have some way to go on the Mac/Intel platform then it is a good start.
I have several applications that I need to run that simply do not have Mac Versions. I also develop applications that have to run on Windows platform. I therefore do not care about whether there are native video drivers. Rebooting to switch between OS's is a pain but tolerable. Disabling the network adaptor in the windows device manager is simple.
My iMac purchase has just moved 1 step closer. All I need now is some more Universal Applications. Lets have those Photoshop on XP on iMac benchmarks.
Personally, If I had an intel Mac at the moment I wouldn't waste the Hard-drive space installing Windows XP alongside Mac OS X. So far, any program that I have needed is available for Mac OS X anyway. Who would bother putting a 5 year-old OS on their Mac?
....for games maybe....but thats all....
And developers arent going to drop OS X just because Windows runs on Macintosh hardware. Mac users use Mac primatily because its their preferred OS. Developers know that there is a huge market out there using OS X who want software.
....for games maybe....but thats all....
And developers arent going to drop OS X just because Windows runs on Macintosh hardware. Mac users use Mac primatily because its their preferred OS. Developers know that there is a huge market out there using OS X who want software.
gammamonk said:
I see no problem so long as you own the disc, though it'll probably void any warranty or service. No problem whatsoever to use what you buy as you will and can without breaking other laws. But, there are a lot of people with hacked versions of OS X that never bought it in the first place...this is like if I, a mac user, just went out and stole a copy of OS X. That's what's wrong in this picture.
I went from a windows 98 box straight to my current power mac G5. I'd certainly welcome the ability to play all those games that neither computer can/could handle (needless to say, the 98 box is collecting dust).
if I wasn't a gamer, I wouldn't care... but I've played most of the recent Mac games out there and have enjoyed 7 of them enough to keep installed (plus Lemmings, but it's not exactly recent). the unending aisles of games to waste my hardearned money on... *drools*
this is not a bad thing at all. the only negative effect I can see is for the companies porting Mac games, since $60 for a 5 year old game will be a tough sell when you can play the same game on the same computer for $30, and have been able to for years.
and of course, as arn mentioned, it provides that extra safety net for us, Apple's noble ambassadors, to point out to potential Switchers.
so woo hoo.
if I wasn't a gamer, I wouldn't care... but I've played most of the recent Mac games out there and have enjoyed 7 of them enough to keep installed (plus Lemmings, but it's not exactly recent). the unending aisles of games to waste my hardearned money on... *drools*
this is not a bad thing at all. the only negative effect I can see is for the companies porting Mac games, since $60 for a 5 year old game will be a tough sell when you can play the same game on the same computer for $30, and have been able to for years.
and of course, as arn mentioned, it provides that extra safety net for us, Apple's noble ambassadors, to point out to potential Switchers.
so woo hoo.
Ha! I decided that my current PC would be the last PC I would buy or upgrade before finally completely moving to Apple. Well, now that decision has become even easier.
Any word yet if the XP'ed MacBook Pro will support its Airport right out of the box under Windows?
I decided that my current PC would be the last PC I would buy or upgrade before finally completely moving to Apple. Well, now that decision has become even easier.Any word yet if the XP'ed MacBook Pro will support its Airport right out of the box under Windows?
BRLawyer said:
Apple has said it wouldn't bother preventing users from booting Windows. I too think it would be bad for the Mac community if developers are discouraged from porting software to the Mac community. Perhaps Apple expects developers to release universal versions, which will certainly happen more. Perhaps Apple has taken the stupidity of the developers of Windows into account and has confidence they can be beaten with OS X somehow. Plus, radical hardware changes could always be in the works...some day, perhaps, a large change in hardware design will throw the ancient approach of Windows right out the window.
ReanimationLP said:Half-Life 2.
Sweetness.
Checking the date..... ok, too early for a huge April fool's
Must admit after seeing the video footage of the XP-booted Mac last night (CET), I thought it was fake.
*foot-in-mouth*
Now we first need hacked drivers for the X1600. I sure hope that the Mac "ROM" on those grfx cards (still there in the MacIntels I assume??) don't spoil the whole show, otherwise DirectX could be a no-go for a long time (or flash the grfx card, making it unusable running Mac OS X -if you do that, you're totally bonkers), and thus no 3D gaming.
I'm very anxious to know!!!
personally i think this is fantastic news!
I would love to be able to check the compatibilty of websites i build on windows and osx, on one computer. At the moment i do this (painfully) through VPC, or by checking on a PC up at the local library!
quick question: can you easily transfer files between partitions on a dual boot system? or would you need to burn to disk and transfer manually?
I would love to be able to check the compatibilty of websites i build on windows and osx, on one computer. At the moment i do this (painfully) through VPC, or by checking on a PC up at the local library!
quick question: can you easily transfer files between partitions on a dual boot system? or would you need to burn to disk and transfer manually?