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rhett7660

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What is the Karl Strauss Oktoberfest beer actually like?

Are you familiar with a Marzen style of beer? Usually they are spiced, malty, and have a clean finish. They tend not to be hoppy, although some breweries are now making them with lots of hops.

Sam Adams Oktoberfest is one of my favorites as is Ayinger and Spaten. There are lots of breweries who make them now. They might also fall under the Pumpkin style of beer.
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I'm not a big beer drinker, but it was ok. it was easy drinking and good enough to wash down a bacon cheeseburger. :) if anything, I guess it did lack some character.

The red trolly was just ok? That is one of their beers I actually avoid, because it is just ok IMHO.
 

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Are you familiar with a Marzen style of beer? Usually they are spiced, malty, and have a clean finish. They tend not to be hoppy, although some breweries are now making them with lots of hops.

Sam Adams Oktoberfest is one of my favorites as is Ayinger and Spaten. There are lots of breweries who make them now. They might also fall under the Pumpkin style of beer.

No, I am not, now that you mention it.

Other than Founders', I'm not terribly familiar with some of the US breweries (and I am one of those who remain underwhelmed by the offerings of Sierra Nevada).

But, in the world of German beers (such as Fransiskaner), some of the Oktober beers they produce are excellent.
 

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No, I am not, now that you mention it.

Other than Founders', I'm not terribly familiar with some of the US breweries (and I am one of those who remain underwhelmed by the offerings of Sierra Nevada).

But, in the world of German beers (such as Fransiskaner), some of the Oktober beers they produce are excellent.

I just mentioned Sam Adams since I really like their Oktoberfest style beer. Marzen, is a Bavaria style of brew that is the closest to what I was trying to describe as an Octoberfest style beer. Ayinger is a German brewery and have been around a very long time same with Spaten, which you mentioned.

Sierra Nevada has some good beers, but they are not the best by any stretch and wouldn't base american beers style and quality on them.
 
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Sadly Autumn feels like it’s on the fast track with that old man right on its heels.

I picked up two more bottles of Drillaud Creme de Cacao for Smith and Kearns night caps.

The only thing I like about fall and winter is the switch to hot buttered rum and more evening scotch.
 
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Sadly Autumn feels like it’s on the fast track with that old man right on its heels.

I picked up two more bottles of Drillaud Creme de Cacao for Smith and Kearns night caps.

The only thing I like about fall and winter is the switch to hot buttered rum and more evening scotch.

Not much of a fan of winter, myself, but I do like the appearance of those rich stouts that accompany the change in temperature when the evenings close in.
 

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opened this with dinner

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Swirling your wine is not pretentious; it’s just good physics

Wine aficionados are known for gently swirling their wine in the glass before tasting, and it isn't as pretentious as it seems. (Well, maybe a little.) They claim the rotation mixes in oxygen and enhances the flavor. Physics backs them up, specifically a mini-subfield dubbed "oenodynamics." The swirling action—technically called "orbital shaking"—creates a rotating gravity wave in the direction of the swirling force being applied, churning up the liquid in the process.

It's often said that science begins with someone noting an unusual effect and thinking, "Huh... that's funny"—and then investigating to find out more. Such was the case for a coterie of wine-swirling physicists. Several years ago, Martino Reclari, then a graduate student at the École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne in Switzerland, was out to dinner with colleagues when the conversation turned to the different kinds of wave dynamics they could produce by swirling their wine glasses: one big smooth wave, a series of smaller ripples, or a splash, for instance.

Not content to leave it at the dinner table, they performed a series of experiments in the ensuing weeks by filling small cylinders of varying sizes with different volumes of a modest merlot. They used gyrating machines commonly found in chemistry labs to swirl the wine in the cylinders, duly noting how various factors affected the behavior of the wine.

They identified three factors at work: the ratio of the level of wine in the glass to the glass's diameter; the ratio of the glass's diameter to the width of the circular shaking; and the ratio of the primary forces acting on the wine: one pushing the liquid to the outside, the other forcing the liquid back down. So by tweaking how much wine you pour in a glass and whether you swirl it in wide or tight circles, you can create different kinds of wave dynamics in the glass (detailed in the video below).

That work became Reclari's PhD thesis. It's not limited to analyzing your glass of wine, either. The formula he and his colleagues devised works for any fluid container size, most notably the bioreactors used to mix large batches of nutrients when cultivating cells in the lab.

A recent paper by a team of Parisian scientists extended the analysis to beer, with surprising results. Unlike wine, beer has a head of foam, and while you might expect that foam to move in the same direction as the swirling motion, the opposite is true. It rotates in the opposite direction. The same thing happens with cappuccino foam, tea scum, and a powder floating on the surface, like cinnamon, under the right circumstances.

Video can be found in the link.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/08/swirling-your-wine-is-not-pretentious-its-just-good-physics/
 
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Love the wine photo and the cutting board! (I like used cutting boards because they tell your story.)
[doublepost=1535324160][/doublepost]The scotch talk from this morning got to me.

A glass of scotch and a Wisconsin beer.

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Has anybody on this board been able to track down a bottle of Brewdogs Nuclear Penguin Imperial stout? I have been looking for this beer since it was announced way back when but have been unable to track it down. It clocks in currently around 32% ABV... :eek::eek::eek:
 

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Has anybody on this board been able to track down a bottle of Brewdogs Nuclear Penguin Imperial stout? I have been looking for this beer since it was announced way back when but have been unable to track it down. It clocks in currently around 32% ABV... :eek::eek::eek:

wow, that is strong - almost the amount of typical liquor.
 

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Has anybody on this board been able to track down a bottle of Brewdogs Nuclear Penguin Imperial stout? I have been looking for this beer since it was announced way back when but have been unable to track it down. It clocks in currently around 32% ABV... :eek::eek::eek:

wow, that is strong - almost the amount of typical liquor.

A beer that clocks in at 32% ABV? Wow.

No, I haven't.

That goes well beyond what you find in fine wines, and even fortified wines; at 35% ABV you are entering strong spirit areas.

Personally, - and I like robust beers, and sturdy stouts, - I find beers that exceed 11-12% too much; most of the time, they fail to get the "balance" right, and are too........alcoholic.

While I like my wine and beer to be pretty hefty, I cannot really see the appeal of a beer with an alcohol level approaching that of a spirit.

Just have a cognac or whisky instead.
 

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A beer that clocks in at 32% ABV? Wow.

No, I haven't.

That goes well beyond what you find in fine wines, and even fortified wines; at 35% ABV you are entering strong spirit areas.

Personally, - and I like robust beers, and sturdy stouts, - I find beers that exceed 11-12% too much; most of the time, they fail to get the "balance" right, and are too........alcoholic.

While I like my wine and beer to be pretty hefty, I cannot really see the appeal of a beer with an alcohol level approaching that of a spirit.

Just have a cognac or whisky instead.

I have had their other offering called "Toyko" which came in at 21% which was really good. I have also had The Bruery's Black October which comes in at 19-21% also which is an outstanding beer. The high ABV doesn't bother me and don't get me wrong, I have had some that are in the 11-16% range where the alcohol is way to prevalent in the taste and it is a turn off, while others hide or mask it so well you wouldn't know it is that high.

Just wondering if anyone on here has been able to track it down and try it. One of the few beers on my list that I want to try. Another one I am really looking forward to trying is Dark Lord by 3 Floyds Brewing.
 

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I have had their other offering called "Toyko" which came in at 21% which was really good. I have also had The Bruery's Black October which comes in at 19-21% also which is an outstanding beer. The high ABV doesn't bother me and don't get me wrong, I have had some that are in the 11-16% range where the alcohol is way to prevalent in the taste and it is a turn off, while others hide or mask it so well you wouldn't know it is that high.

Just wondering if anyone on here has been able to track it down and try it. One of the few beers on my list that I want to try. Another one I am really looking forward to trying is Dark Lord by 3 Floyds Brewing.

Usually, I love the beers produced by Buxton Brewery, and their Rain Shadow is pretty good. However, a few years ago, they produced an enhanced version of Rain Shadow, which (I think) they called "Stormy Rain Shadow".

It was the first beer I had ever had from them that was 'unbalanced' - the burn from the alcohol was too much (and I write as someone who likes hefty stouts), while the beer itself clocked in at around 13%. There were others - a few beers (that is, stouts) that were aged in Teelings Whiskey barrels were brutal when first tasted, but were perfectly fine when consumed well over two years later.
 

rhett7660

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Usually, I love the beers produced by Buxton Brewery, and their Rain Shadow is pretty good. However, a few years ago, they produced an enhanced version of Rain Shadow, which (I think) they called "Stormy Rain Shadow".

It was the first beer I had ever had from them that was 'unbalanced' - the burn from the alcohol was too much (and I write as someone who likes hefty stouts), while the beer itself clocked in at around 13%. There were others - a few beers (that is, stouts) that were aged in Teelings Whiskey barrels were brutal when first tasted, but were perfectly fine when consumed well over two years later.

I have experienced the same with some of the higher ABV brews. Usually aging does cut down on the alcohol burn, which is nice and you can actually enjoy the beer with out fear of having your mouth and throat scorched by the alcohol.
 
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