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Wine and Beer Enthusiasts
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Went to a beer festival in Long Beach and had a few good beers, and even though it was a hot summer day, there were several stouts and porters on tap. The one that stood out was from a brewery called Angry Horse Brewing called "Long Live the King" and it lived up to its name. Actually had a few samplings of this one.
And again; a timeless classic is a timeless classic.
Trappistes Rochefort and St Bernardus just get brewing absolutely right.
So, sipping a St Bernardus Abt 12 this evening.
A Belgian classic: Trappistes Rochefort 8 served in a Trappistes Rochefort glass chalice or goblet. Sublime.
My second (and final) beer of the night was the superb Trappistes Rochefort 10.
In addition to their standard fruit sours, they seem to do special seasonal releases (the beer I mentioned was one of those), that differ from year to year.
But the Lambic style in general, (and the Gueuze style in particular) are something that I think would go down well with you; refreshing, tart, and sour. (And Belgian, which is its own quality mark).
Oh wow, the Southern Tier Pumking Ale is better than I remember 
It's definitely a sipper, after dinner, alone, or with a desert, or even some cheese , something tart/rich/funky.
It's definitely a sipper, after dinner, alone, or with a desert, or even some cheese , something tart/rich/funky.
Torpedo... as in Sierra Nevada's Torpedo? Or..?
For those who are into Founders Beer, I don't know if you heard the news but it looks like they were sold over the past week...
https://thetakeout.com/founders-brewing-sells-mahou-san-miguel-1837714488
So far the only causality is Founders CBS, which supposedly, this is going to be the last year of it's release for some time, which really sucks as it was one of my favorite beers.
I am hoping they do not end up like Goose Island, which still has their stout series, but their other beer is absolutely horrible, or Lagunitas, which has really languished over the past few years.
Oh-oh.
This is news I had not known, and would not be terribly enthusiastic about, for all of the excellent reasons you have just so eloquently described in your post. Thanks for the heads-up; that is depressing.
Actually, I, too, loved CBS - a better beer, (or stout), to my mind, than the already quite excellent KBS. CBS was beautifully balanced, a subtle and elegant yet powerful beer.
And agree, too, that seriously good brands can often end up losing their sense of self in a takeover (or sale) and can end up losing sight of the need to maintain high standards in their products.
And yes, I also agree that Lagunitas - which used to be very good a number of years ago - is not what it used to be.
Oh, dear.
I am a little worried. Especially with the announcement about CBS right out the gate. Fingers crossed we still get some of their beers and they don't change!
I was unaware the same company also owns a nice piece of Avery Brewing which also has some really good beers. Mephisto and White Rascal are my two favorites from them.
Where was the (unwelcome) announcement about CBS published?
That is (was) a superlative beer, seriously, seriously good.
Sipping a Belgian classic: Trappistes Rochefort 8, in a Trappistes Rochefort glass goblet or chalice.
Appalling news, if true.
This s one of the very best beers ever brewed - it was simply superb.
Agreed. I was lucky enough to snag a few...
Here is one link, this one doesn't relate it to the purchase... But it comes right after the announcement.
https://www.freep.com/story/enterta...founders-canadian-breakfast-stout/2052250001/
Actually, I was lucky enough to snag two full crates of this sublime nectar, all, now consumed, alas.
Thanks for the links - this is depressing news, for that was (is) a superb beer.
Yes. It would have been weird if I invaded a Naval yard and cracked open a torpedo to drink its explosive material, I think.
Goose Island has changed in flavor. I didn't know they'd be sold until your post. Laguanitas was always a hit or miss with me. I don't think stores properly store their stuff.
LOL re: Torpedo... Didn't know if there was another wine or alcoholic beverage that had the same name. However having said that, I can totally see someone doing that by the way!
Goose Island sure has for the most part. So far the only beer that has consistently remained the same is their Bourbon Stout line. I gave up on the Goose Island branding of beer a long time ago. I agree with Laguanitas, very hit and miss and usually a miss. I did take a cruise around the LB harbor one year and they were the sponsors and it was actually pretty good. They had a few folks from the brewery on hand so I have a feeling it was more controlled in the delivery and what was being delivered.
Sierra Nevada Torpedo IPA is outstanding, a standard "go to" for me, especially when restocking from the grocery.
Goose Island is pretty mediocre at best, but sometimes passable if it's on draft and "the best" option at a restaurant (though usually our restaurant decisions account for the draft selections
)I generally dig on Lagunitas, two of my current favorites (in general, but both from Lagunitas):