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A nice warming, soothing, bottle of Buxton stout, the timeless and brilliant "Yellow Belly", poured into a Belgian beer chalice - by St Bernardus - designed for the enjoyment and quaffing of Belgian quadruples.
 

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macrumors Haswell
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It was beyond good, fantastic is a great word to use to describe it!

Well, I love those Imperial Stouts (or beers on the 'quad' - the quadruple - style that the Belgians do so well) - and Mikkeller are a brilliant brewer, so I have absolutely no doubt that it was "beyond good" and indeed, "fantastic".

Enjoy - and know that - (even though I am currently sipping a rather lovely Imperial Stout - the Narwhal by Sierra Nevada - I am appropriately envious.

Enjoy.
 

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Classic is right, very good stuff.

Although I have tried some of the other - often terrific Imperial stouts - and liked them, I find that I sometimes forget just how good the Belgians actually are.

They craft superb beers, and get it absolutely right - creating beers that beautifully balanced between heft, depth of flavour and alcohol.
 
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Bliss by Wild Beer Co. Not a fan. I had high hopes with this bottle. Bit pricey for a British import of unknown quality compared to other imports. Muddled flavor and aroma.

I fell victim to the first bad selection of 2017.
 

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macrumors Haswell
Jul 29, 2008
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Bliss by Wild Beer Co. Not a fan. I had high hopes with this bottle. Bit pricey for a British import of unknown quality compared to other imports. Muddled flavor and aroma.

I fell victim to the first bad selection of 2017.

Wild Beer are a brewery that pride themselves on using natural ingredients and have a very experimental ethos.

Now, 'experimental' can mean open minded, and genuinely innovative, and it can also mean that sometimes, you just don't get it right.

Nevertheless, the best of their beers are excellent: Personally, I love (and highly recommend) their "Millionaire" beer, a naturally brewed stout which is exceedingly tasty.

Which one was "Bliss", again?
 

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Bliss, according to the beer monger I spoke to, was marketed as having honey and apricot elements. I tasted neither. I either got a bad bottle from a bad batch or Bliss isn't very good at all. Reviews of it seem to vary wildly, which leads me to believe every person will have some form of opinion on the beer's quality.
 
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Bliss, according to the beer monger I spoke to, was marketed as having honey and apricot elements. I tasted neither. I either got a bad bottle from a bad batch or Bliss isn't very good at all. Reviews of it seem to vary wildly, which leads me to believe every person will have some form of opinion on the beer's quality.

I googled the reviews, and the scores the beer received suggested that it was a lot less than stellar.

Personally, that is a bit of a pity, as I love apricots, but - as with both 'experimental' brews, and - also - with beers that insist on using natural products - the quality is bound to be bit variable.

I like the idea that this is what they are trying to do, even if the execution sometimes falls far short of what they might have hoped for.

Anyway, I do recommend their "Millionaire" beer - a stunning and superlative (and check out those scores - my view is not unique on this matter) salted caramel (natural) stout...

Meanwhile, I, myself, am sipping an American classic - the "Breakfast Stout" from Founder's.
 
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Had a really good Mikkeller George Russian Imperial Stout! On tap! It was tasty!!! No complaints.
Mikkeller is a fantastic brewery - especially their BeerGeek series is beyond amazing.

If you love their imperial stuff, see if you can get your hands on To Øl (Goliat is my favorite). Also residing in Denmark, it puts out some very solid competition against Mikkeller.


A Belgian classic: Trappistes Rochefort 10, a classic an timeless Belgian quadrupel stout.
I'm afraid a "quadrupel stout" doesn't really make sense, as a quad is essentially a very strong Belgian ale (as far as I know at least). Could be totally dreaming though, so correct me if I'm wrong.

On the other hand, the difference between porters and stouts is very minimal, so this might just be a similar case...
 
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macrumors Haswell
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Mikkeller is a fantastic brewery - especially their BeerGeek series is beyond amazing.

If you love their imperial stuff, see if you can get your hands on To Øl (Goliat is my favorite). Also residing in Denmark, it puts out some very solid competition against Mikkeller.



I'm afraid a "quadrupel stout" doesn't really make sense, as a quad is essentially a very strong Belgian ale (as far as I know at least). Could be totally dreaming though, so correct me if I'm wrong.

On the other hand, the difference between porters and stouts is very minimal, so this might just be a similar case...

Well, yes, but most of the Belgian quads (Rochefort Trappistes 10, or the St Bernardus Abt 12) - while classed as "very strong Belgian ales" are actually black in the glass (rather than dark brown), with an ABV of around 10% (and sometimes even higher).

Black beverages would seem to be to be more redolent of a stout or porter style drink - and the heft, richness and depth of flavour would seem to support that, too. However, if their own classification describes them as "very strong ales", I will not dispute that, even if in terms of appearance and taste they more closely resemble stouts (or porters).
 
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Well, yes, but most of the Belgian quads (Rochefort Trappistes 10, or the St Bernardus Abt 12) - while classed as "very strong Belgian ales" are actually black in the glass (rather than dark brown), with an ABV of around 10% (and sometimes even higher).

Black beverages would seem to be to be more redolent of a stout or porter style drink - and the heft, richness and depth of flavour would seem to support that, too. However, if their own classification describes them as "very strong ales", I will not dispute that, even if in terms of appearance and taste they more closely resemble stouts (or porters).

While I agree with you that the appearance of quads, especially that of Trappistes Rochefort 10, might resemble a robust stout, I cannot agree that these styles of beer are close to each other in terms of flavor.

Whereas a quad usually has a very complex flavor – quite often with notes of ripened fruit, raisins, herbs, and a has general ”wine-like classiness” – stouts are usually pronounced in roastiness, bitterness from the hops, coffee, dark chocolate and licorice. Stouts also lack the typical ”Belgian yeastiness” that is quite ubiquitous in quads. Of course, there are a ton of stout varieties and some might have notes resembling a Belgian quad.

This is my experience anyway.
 
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