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Gregg2

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Incorrect pronunciations are rampant. The few posts above only scratch the surface of pronunciation pollution. I watch local news and ABC News, and in the span of one hour, I hear a dozen or so mispronunciations, and that's just from the reporters and "anchors".
 
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rm5

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Totally agree. I could care less about [Political Party A | Sports Team B | Etc ], but it would take a great deal of effort...
Well because to me, the language makes sense—I could care less, rather than I couldn't care less - that makes no sense to me - to me, that means I could care more, which simply isn't true.

Maybe I'm missing the point, idk, but still...
 

usagora

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Well because to me, the language makes sense—I could care less, rather than I couldn't care less - that makes no sense to me - to me, that means I could care more, which simply isn't true.

Well, technically any of us "can" care to any degree we choose to, but idiomatic phrases aren't meant to be taken literally. So, "I couldn't care less" simply means "The level of interest I have in the subject is zero." "I could care less" is simply a common mishearing of the proper idiomatic phrase, much like people mishear "for all intents and purposes" as "for all intensive purposes" etc.
 
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Daimos0

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“Head over heels” , although popular, is wrong. Heels over head , makes more sense. 😉
“You can’t have your cake and eat it too” also seems reversed.

“Could you be any more…”. From Chandler of Friends makes me smile.
 

usagora

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“Head over heels” , although popular, is wrong. Heels over head , makes more sense. 😉

Most people don't know this, but the phrase "head over heels" actually originated with a bat observing a human doing a celebratory headstand. Makes perfect sense once you realize that.

“You can’t have your cake and eat it too” also seems reversed.

I see what you mean, but that one actually makes sense either way. It just means you can't do both at the same time.
 
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Daimos0

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Did you know that English is probably the only language where we hold Spelling bees? Shows you how fickle but interesting it is.
 

ThisBougieLife

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A spelling bee would be nearly impossible in some languages, if the person pronouncing the word was speaking the standard dialect and enunciating. Finnish is probably at the opposite end from English, in that words are truly spelled exactly as they sound.
 
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Daimos0

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I see what you mean, but that one actually makes sense either way. It just means you can't do both at the same time.
No it does not make sense. First get the cake. Now that you have it, you can eat it. Now that you ate it, you don’t have it anymore.
 

usagora

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No it does not make sense. First get the cake. Now that you have it, you can eat it. Now that you ate it, you don’t have it anymore.

Which is precisely why the phrase goes, "You can't have your cake and eat it too"--because eating it results in not having it. As soon as you take that first bite, you no longer have the whole cake anymore, and by the last bite it's totally gone 😉 So that phrase makes perfect sense regardless of word order (have and eat too or eat and have too)
 

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On the topic of sayings, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" is often rendered as "the proof is in the pudding", which seems sometimes to be used to mean something different, more in accordance with its syntax (i.e. "the evidence is right there if you look for it" vs. "you can't know what something is like until you try it").

@SevLucas That one is truly awful. 😅
 

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"Monitor". In my mind that conjures up an image of a 1970s amber-on-black CRT used to literally monitor what jobs were running on a computer. In the modern world of interactivity, it strikes me as an antiquated word, yet it's extremely common.
 
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Aves

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I get annoyed by all political correct language variants and euphemisms like Shut The Front Door and such.


Sorry, not me.
(not sorry)
 
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usagora

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New to me too, although I figured out the meaning from context.

Not sure what the context was--no example sentence was given. The only similar phases I've heard are "shut your trap" and "shut your yapper." "The front door" just sounds so awkward in comparison.
 

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"Woke" -- it reminds me of when children learn a new word and keep saying it all the time, except it's grown adults using it to imply that caring about other people is somehow a really bad thing.

That's some straw man! You're forcing the original meaning of the word onto what it has evolved into, and that's simply denying how language changes over time. I think most people use it in reaction to over-the-top sensitivity where people start looking for offense (especially on behalf of others) in an attempt to virtue signal. We may disagree about whether specific instances of this are actually over-the-top or not, but most people agree there is a line that can be crossed, from the realm of reasonable concern to the realm of unreasonable or even just plain silly, at which point it's clearly not about concern but about control.
 
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Mousse

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Oh yes. I watch a lot of tech and audiophile videos, so the word "button" comes up a lot. One YouTuber I watch very clearly pronounces "button" as "buh-in". I would like to know what happened to the /t/! (I hear the same with "important" as "impor-int").
It was probably the same YouTuber on who's gear I etched some runic glyphs.

Him: Now it's ruined.☹️
Me: It's pronounced runed.😉

I'll throw myself out now.
 
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