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Not sure what you mean. His initial post said nothing about being annoyed by it. He was implying the usage was incorrect, but it's not (as I explained). I was responding to that. His subsequent post restated it that this was a usage that simply annoyed him. That's not the same thing. As I said myself early on in this thread, I acknowledge that the usages of the words/phrases that personally annoy me are perfectly legitimate/correct usages, so I'm being perfectly consistent.
Your initial post implied the other poster's usage was incorrect, not that it simply annoyed you. Big difference. So no need to get an attitude and roll your eyes at me when I'm simply responding to what seemed to be a lack of awareness in you on the usage. I figured maybe you weren't a native English speaker and didn't realize that was a legitimate usage of the word.

But your post seems to go beyond annoyance to personal offense. I'd suggest not reading that much into the word usage. No more than people who've recently had a loved one pass away should be offended by the use of the word "dead" (or a skull and cross bones emoji) to mean one found something extremely hilarious. That one actually annoys me, btw. But offend me? Not in the least.

Thanks once more for the over-the-top mansplain on your own thread discussing words/phrases which annoy people. The lack of self-reflection isn’t helpful (and the irony of it isn’t lost on me).

Next time, before you go off on me (or about me in third-person voice) for making it clear how a word carries a specific meaning which many folks — yourself included — frequently misuse, maybe stop by my about page first to look over the very first bit in bold-ital. I’d appreciate it.

Cheers.
 
Bae… I’m thinking why would someone go out of their way to make themselves sound uneducated.

I don’t have an issue with AAVE — African-American Vernacular English — being used by folks who are Black; it’s when non-Black folks clumsily and shamelessly appropriate AAVE when it becomes grating to my ears.
 

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Thanks once more for the over-the-top mansplain on your own thread discussing words/phrases which annoy people. The lack of self-reflection isn’t helpful (and the irony of it isn’t lost on me).

Next time, before you go off on me for making it clear how a word carries a specific meaning which many folks — yourself included — frequently misuse, maybe stop by my about page to look over the very first bit in bold-ital. I’d appreciate it.

Cheers.

It's NOT misuse. You are factually wrong on that. Annoys you? Fine, I accept that. But don't tell people they are misusing words when they aren't. I'm done replying to you, as you are being quite rude.
 

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I don’t have an issue with AAVE — African-American Vernacular English — being used by folks who are Black; it’s when non-Black folks clumsily and shamelessly appropriate AAVE when it becomes grating to my ears.
I’ve only heard caucasian people say that word. It just sounds like someone was maybe embarrassed to call their girlfriend baby in public so he stuttered and it became bae
 

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Thanks for the giant mansplains, you two. Really instructive. ::slow clap:: :rolleyes:

A fourth annoyance:

Using trigger to mean anything other than referring to a prompt or incident which invokes bona fide post-trauma symptoms. Saying something to annoy people who you don’t like isn’t “““triggering””” them. It’s annoying them, if not ushering anger. PTSD does a cascade of other things entirely.

Signed,
Someone who has seen a therapist specialized in PTSD treatment

p.s., @Alpha Centauri , the DSM-IV hasn’t been in use since 2000; they’re on the DSM-5-TR now
Mansplaining? Yes indeed DSM-IV was a typo. Sometimes wording just doesn't have to be plucked apart, over analyzed and corrected to this extent, especially when the term is loosely used and can have broader meaning on an international stage. Life is too short and precious to get hung up about the meaning of just one single word, in an otherwise very lighthearted thread.
 
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It's NOT misuse. You are factually wrong on that. Annoys you? Fine, I accept that. But don't tell people they are misusing words when they aren't.

Well usagora, you, along with lots of randos on the internet, are misusing and have been misusing it.

And now you’re doing so within a discussion thread discussing words and/or phrases which annoy people. If it’s established “fact” as you assert, then it wouldn’t have been difficult to link to a citation of authority.

You didn’t, so I’ll turn to the Oxford English Dictionary and share that authority:

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Generally, I’ll rely on the OED as a citation of authority before I’ll rely on someone on the internet who gets vexed and then doubles down upon learning how the misuse of a word like “triggered” genuinely annoys other people, in a thread they themselves created to discuss annoying words and/or phrases in a collegial manner.

The irony is now layered on thick! 😵


I'm done replying to you, as you are being quite rude.

If I were to use “triggered” the way you believe to be “factually” correct (but is not), this is where I might say in response, “Gosh, you sound triggered,” but this would be incorrect usage on my behalf.

Hope that helps!
 
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I'm getting tired of hearing "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." It seems to be way overused and the fact that it's so wordy just adds to the annoyance.
 

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”Nothing-burger.” As in: “Yesterday’s Apple announcements were pretty much of a nothing-burger.” Albeit true, at least for me.
I had not seen or heard this expression until your post. Then a few minutes later I had the misfortune of going to the CBC News website. For non-Canadians, the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Network) was started in 1933 and has a history of unbiased, professional newsgathering and reporting. Sadly it is now a mere shadow of what it was. I will not get political here but it is not worth watching or reading these days. Back to the main point, I noticed a highlighted story with the following headline...

The Hunter Biden Affair: Epic scandal or nothing-burger?​

I thought I had mistakenly clicked on a high school newspaper site, not Canada's national broadcaster.

I can only conclude with another term discussed earlier...SMH
 

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Describing a cup of coffee as a cup of "joe".

Ugh.

This mutilation (and infantilisation) of language sets my teeth on edge.

There is already a perfectly good noun with which to describe coffee, which is, yes, "coffee", a word known, and used, and, above all, understood, world wide.
 
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They never do this anymore, but I remember watching older baseball movies where people would yell

"SWING batta batta sa-WING....."

For some reason that drove me absolutely freaking bananas, like the batter had no clue what to do on his own. LOL
 
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I had not seen or heard this expression until your post. Then a few minutes later I had the misfortune of going to the CBC News website. For non-Canadians, the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Network) was started in 1933 and has a history of unbiased, professional newsgathering and reporting. Sadly it is now a mere shadow of what it was. I will not get political here but it is not worth watching or reading these days. Back to the main point, I noticed a highlighted story with the following headline...

The Hunter Biden Affair: Epic scandal or nothing-burger?​

I thought I had mistakenly clicked on a high school newspaper site, not Canada's national broadcaster.

I can only conclude with another term discussed earlier...SMH

All of this sounds like quite the 'imbroglio.' ;)

I remember seeing news outlets use the crap out of that word a year or two ago. It sounded, and still sounds, *SO* dumb.

BTW, agreed - without wanting to get political, suffice to say that I think it's damn near impossible to find *ANY* news outlet that's not outrageously biased or slanted, right or left.
 
Describing a cup of coffee as a cup of "joe".

Ugh.

This mutilation (and infantilisation) of language sets my teeth on edge.

There is already a perfectly good noun with which to describe coffee, which is, yes, "coffee", a word known (and used) world wide.

People in my life think I’m a weirdo because I like to call it the “hot brown bean water”. :D
 
All of this sounds like quite the 'imbroglio.' ;)

I remember seeing news outlets use the crap out of that word a year or two ago. It sounded, and still sounds, *SO* dumb.

BTW, agreed - without wanting to get political, suffice to say that I think it's damn near impossible to find *ANY* news outlet that's not outrageously biased or slanted, right or left.

The bias and slant in news outlets runs along an axis of wealthy (of which there are many interests and proprietors, but all with the mutual interest of conserving that wealth and the power to come with it) and modest (of which there are few to none any longer).

Always — always — follow that filthy lucre. 💵
 

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They never do this anymore, but I remember watching older baseball movies where people would yell

"SWING batta batta sa-WING....."

For some reason that drove me absolutely freaking bananas, like the batter had no clue what to do on his own. LOL

Silly things like that don't really annoy me when I hear others say it, but I wouldn't be caught dead yelling them out myself 😂
 
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"I was today years old when I learned . . ." used to emphasize the fact that a person has lived their whole life until now without knowing something significant or seemingly obvious.
 
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"I was today years old when I learned . . ." used to emphasize the fact that a person has lived their whole life until now without knowing something significant or seemingly obvious.

Nah this is fine: it doesn’t say anything about one’s own age whilst revealing how something one didn’t know before now came to the fore. It also suggests that one is never too old to learn.

The phrase “can’t fix stupid” — to suggest the presence or absence of aptitude, experience, and/or wisdom are somehow physical and/or tangible in nature — is, ipso facto, one of the more troubling, cognitively lazy English phrases to have taken root during the age of social media.

[I’ll wait for reactions and responses as I sip a fresh mug of hot brown bean water. ☕ ]
 

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Nah this is fine: it doesn’t say anything about one’s own age whilst revealing how something one didn’t know before now came to the fore.
Agree completely.
It also suggests that one is never too old to learn.
Exactly.

To my mind, that phrase s an acknowledgement of the fact that we are never too old to learn, which is something to be celebrated, not ridiculed.
The phrase “can’t fix stupid” — to suggest the presence or absence of aptitude, experience, and/or wisdom are somehow physical and/or tangible in nature — is, ipso facto, one of the more troubling, cognitively lazy English phrases to have taken root during the age of social media.
Actually, the whole point of education (or, one of the main points of education) is that you very much can "fix stupid," or that one should - at the very least - try to do so.
 
Actually, the whole point of education (or, one of the main points of education) is that you very much can "fix stupid," or that one should - at the very least - try to do so.

Ah, see, this is important, but what teaching, guidance, knowledge exchange, and education are doing is dispensing with ignorance, not stupidity. These are not synonymous ideas at all!

The person who’s a dry sponge of ignorance has a remarkable capacity, aptitude, and desire to soak in what they learn, whereas the person who is a brick of stupidity, far from a sponge, might superficially soak up trifling bits of learning — maybe an out-of-context factoid, here or there.

By and large, at least for the most part, the brick of a person soaks up very, very little, whether by voluntary choices or by physical limits in congenital aptitude — usually, if not almost always, due to the former, not the latter.
 

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Ah, see, this is important, but what teaching, guidance, knowledge exchange, and education are doing is dispensing with ignorance, not stupidity. These are not synonymous ideas at all!

The person who’s a dry sponge of ignorance has a remarkable capacity, aptitude, and desire to soak in what they learn, whereas the person who is a brick of stupidity, far from a sponge, might superficially soak up trifling bits of learning — maybe an out-of-context factoid, here or there.

By and large, at least for the most part, the brick of a person soaks up very, very little, whether by voluntary choices or by physical limits in congenital aptitude — usually, if not almost always, due to the former, not the latter.
Well, yes, but what I can say (write?) is, that, when you start a new academic year, and are greeted with a classroom full of bright, new, student faces, as a teacher, you don't know which student falls into which category.

Therefore, you treat them all as people who wish to learn.
 
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