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:( World of Warcraft - Cataclysm won't support PowerPC Macs

What a load of cods-wallop!!!
My quad g5 ran wow perfectly up till before the last patch.
I wonder what they will do to all those boxes in the stores that they are still trying to sell that state ppc support on the side of the box for wc, bc and lK. I only just bought the battle box with wc and bc in it, and now only 2 months after I find out that I can no longer play it.. Freaking rip-off!!!

How do I get a refund for the game I bought?

Store has a non return policy for any online game.
 
sorry im going to be a jerk

i dont care if wow runs on ppc mac's or not i will never!! give up my ppc based mac for an intel one could of bought a intel mini had a friend keep tring to talk me into the mini but to me id rather a ppc mac
 
rasmasyean said:
Electronics in general are not really "durable goods". They are more like "perishables". They are only good for so long. The problem is that some people don't think of it this way because it's a physical object that doesn't nomally degrade. And it will still "work" by some basic definition of the word for a long time.

I always thought of buying a computer is really "renting" a computer. And the more you pay for it up front, the longer you can use it for. After a while, it's really just garbage...or in some cases you can give it to grandma to look at pictures or something.
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I usually describe it to clients as like owning a car. The number of people who don't run antivirus etc, don't maintain the system, and yet balk totally at the cost of having a man fix it. And yet, just like a car they DO need maintenance, they DO need servicing and yes, for most users they DO have a limited lifespan. Classic car enthusiasts or people running old motors from the 70's aren't the average motorist, just like PPC users are no longer the average Mac user. You wouldn't fail to service a car and then buy a new one when it broke long before it should.... people are prepared to do this with PC's simply because the prices are low enough to allow them to be morons.

People need to be ready to have their system serviced, maintained and when the time comes, updated. Shame so many aren't prepared for the responsibility of a computer. There's nothing wrong with these people with more money than sense being morons...... but I'm glad companies like Apple and Blizzard aren't making these products around them....
 
dualcorepowerma said:
i dont care if wow runs on ppc mac's or not i will never!! give up my ppc based mac for an intel one could of bought a intel mini had a friend keep tring to talk me into the mini but to me id rather a ppc mac
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I can certainly understand your dedication to the PowerPC platform. It's a good CPU architecture. The problem is that it never got the development resources that Intel can throw behind the x86_64 platform. A lot of the core issues with the x86 instruction set (that bug devs) are fixed in the 64-bit instruction set. And the design problems that plagued the Pentium IV and related Celeron line have been addressed in the Core/i3/i5/i7 line.

It's really hard to fault Apple for going to Intel here, and Intel has been delivering the changes in their CPUs that Apple was seeking out from IBM/Motorola but weren't getting. At this stage in the game, if you want performance that beats your G5, you have to go Intel (even the current crop of Minis does that).
 
Krevnik said:
.....At this stage in the game, if you want performance that beats your G5, you have to go Intel (even the current crop of Minis does that).
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My Mid-2010 Mini sped past my old PowerMac only after upgrading the ram. Everything was slow, including the graphics. The Mini's 2GB of ram really isn't enough. I hope Apple ups the base config on the next refresh.
 
QuantumLo0p said:
My Mid-2010 Mini sped past my old PowerMac only after upgrading the ram. Everything was slow, including the graphics. The Mini's 2GB of ram really isn't enough. I hope Apple ups the base config on the next refresh.
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It is kinda hard to compare a 2GB Mini to a 4+GB G5, yeah... RAM will always make things slow down to the speed of the HDD if you don't have enough for the apps you are using. The lack of discrete graphics hurts as well (depends on the card you have in the G5... a couple of the models available are still pretty good).

And both of those bottlenecks are easy to hit on the G5 too if your GPU or RAM aren't up to snuff.
 
dualcorepowerma said:
i dont care if wow runs on ppc mac's or not i will never!! give up my ppc based mac for an intel one could of bought a intel mini had a friend keep tring to talk me into the mini but to me id rather a ppc mac
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You're not being a "jerk". You're being delusional. The PPC platform is DEAD! You want to be devoted to something you loved so much because of some sort of photoshop experience or whatever, fine. But word of advice is to just move on.

The Intel platform was adopted by Bill Gates and although he has his critics, no one can doubt his power grip on the world and his accomplishment in spreading Intel architecture across the globe. Sorry for you but Apple made the choice. They will run Windows or dump thier laptop business. And they chose to dump the ppc instead...and it was a good move. Because the reality is that the ppc woulda brought the Macbook to the grave such that not even the iPod traffic would have saved it.
 
rasmasyean said:
You're not being a "jerk". You're being delusional. The PPC platform is DEAD! You want to be devoted to something you loved so much because of some sort of photoshop experience or whatever, fine. But word of advice is to just move on.

The Intel platform was adopted by Bill Gates and although he has his critics, no one can doubt his power grip on the world and his accomplishment in spreading Intel architecture across the globe. Sorry for you but Apple made the choice. They will run Windows or dump thier laptop business. And they chose to dump the ppc instead...and it was a good move. Because the reality is that the ppc woulda brought the Macbook to the grave such that not even the iPod traffic would have saved it.
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I agree, not about the comment being delusional, just unrealistic. Intel is a much more energetic company, consequently their chips are better by virtue of a much more robust development cycle. Apple made the right move.
 
As cool as the PPC computers are, they are 5 years old now.

It's time for them to finally be put to rest.

Unfortunately, this world is filled with planned obsolescence. My Mac Mini and iPad are a great replacement for the 12" PowerBook I had though.

Keep in mind though, certain 5 year old Windows machines will be able to run Cataclysm, but this is because those use x86 and not PPC. As for GPC's, PPC is dead. However, it has a wonderful life in video game consoles and servers still.
 
As I read all of your woes and misfortunes, the only thing going through my mind is NO MORE WASTED RESOURCES ON UNIVERSAL BINARY =D
 
Huntn said:
...and the Xbox360. :)
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Funny because not only was the 360 CPU a spin off the early Cell project, its a fraction of the power of the Cell CPU.

Power7 looks like it could change that though. But it also looks like the Cell series of processors will be what powers IBM's mainframes and supercomputers.
 
Or play Lineage instead :p

(I'm perfectly happy in PPC land running Office 08, iLife 08, Acrobat Pro 8, and MATLAB r2008b. But I know I'm in the minority.)
 
Krevnik said:
It is kinda hard to compare a 2GB Mini to a 4+GB G5, yeah... RAM will always make things slow down to the speed of the HDD if you don't have enough for the apps you are using. The lack of discrete graphics hurts as well (depends on the card you have in the G5... a couple of the models available are still pretty good). And both of those bottlenecks are easy to hit on the G5 too if your GPU or RAM aren't up to snuff.
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Yeah, I know it's not really a fair comparison. Btw the card in my old PowerMac is a 6800. It lagged in Dal always when it was busy, only a little when initially entering SW and was okay in 25's (with settings turned down) and WG was basically unplayable about half the time. The occasional Mini-super-lag disappeared when I installed more ram. IMO Apple really should not be shipping it with <4GB of ram. I can't believe how much my Mini came alive with 8GB of ram. I was content with it before the upgrade and now I'm quite happy. My only question I have now is how well will the mid-2010 Mini handle Cataclysm? After I upped the ram I was able turn up both distance settings a bit so perhaps Cat will play okay.
 
QuantumLo0p said:
Yeah, I know it's not really a fair comparison. Btw the card in my old PowerMac is a 6800. It lagged in Dal always when it was busy, only a little when initially entering SW and was okay in 25's (with settings turned down) and WG was basically unplayable about half the time. The occasional Mini-super-lag disappeared when I installed more ram. IMO Apple really should not be shipping it with <4GB of ram. I can't believe how much my Mini came alive with 8GB of ram. I was content with it before the upgrade and now I'm quite happy. My only question I have now is how well will the mid-2010 Mini handle Cataclysm? After I upped the ram I was able turn up both distance settings a bit so perhaps Cat will play okay.
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BUT: and this is a big but--the drivers for the 6800 cards were horrid on OS X. The card didn't justify its price etc, given the performance compared to the ATI X800/X850. Yes, your 6800 was still one of the better AGP G5 cards, but it wasn't top-end. I hated to admit it when I had one, but the 6800 played second fiddle to the top end ATI cards in the G5.
 
Sort of makes me sad

Well, I guess I'm one of the few that still runs WoW on my Power PC 2.0. And really, the thing is stable and it runs well.

My plan was to simply buy a mac mini to run WoW and keep the rest of the stuff on the PowerPC - (I don't see a reason to upgrade to a new Mac Pro just yet), but I don't think the mac mini can run my 30" cinema display. Does anyone know?
 
Airren said:
Well, I guess I'm one of the few that still runs WoW on my Power PC 2.0. And really, the thing is stable and it runs well.

My plan was to simply buy a mac mini to run WoW and keep the rest of the stuff on the PowerPC - (I don't see a reason to upgrade to a new Mac Pro just yet), but I don't think the mac mini can run my 30" cinema display. Does anyone know?
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Mac Mini will run it better than any G5...
 
Airren said:
Huh. So you're saying it will run it at full resolution?
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With dual-link DVI, pretty much every Intel Mac can drive the 30" when doing 2D.

The trick is 3D, which is a whole different game. The perf will be slower the higher the resolution used.
 
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