World of Warcraft: Dragonflight M2 Max 38 Core GPU Performance…

[SpitUK]

Anyone know of a way to check fps in WoW? I don't see built in benchmarks like the Tomb Raider games in the App Store. I'm so excited to play this again. It's been around 10 years for me. A bit confused on whether to do classic or Warcraft Reforged though.

Also, do you think more memory and/or a larger ssd would make a difference at all performance wise? I just got my M2 Max MBP16 with 96 GB of memory and a 2 TB ssd a few days ago. Also just finally upgraded my internet to a 1200Mbps/1.2Gbps plan, and every speed test I've done far exceeds 1300/1.3

Anyways, sad that BootCamp is gone, but besides that unfortunate fact, so glad to hear that these Pros are good at gaming. Bought the Tomb Raider Bundle with Tomb, Shadow, and Rise, going to subscribe to WoW, plan on purchasing Resident Evil Village, and once I get my new SteelSeries controller in the mail from Apple, I'm going to get Apple Arcade, since it comes with 4 months for free.

Go with the new expansion Dragonflight, its really good and looks great in the M2 Max.

 

[SpitUK]

What fps were your getting on your M1Max on the same settings?

Fluctuated quite a bit between 40-60fps but its now pretty much locked at 60fps. In Valdrakken on an evening with lots of players it can dip to 53-54fps but its now pretty solid at 60fps.

 

[magbarn]

Fluctuated quite a bit between 40-60fps but its now pretty much locked at 60fps. In Valdrakken on an evening with lots of players it can dip to 53-54fps but its now pretty solid at 60fps.

decent upgrades. I'll just wait for the M3 as it's not enough of a jump. I want 120fps

 

[dmccloud]

Anyone know of a way to check fps in WoW? I don't see built in benchmarks like the Tomb Raider games in the App Store. I'm so excited to play this again. It's been around 10 years for me. A bit confused on whether to do classic or Warcraft Reforged though.

Also, do you think more memory and/or a larger ssd would make a difference at all performance wise? I just got my M2 Max MBP16 with 96 GB of memory and a 2 TB ssd a few days ago. Also just finally upgraded my internet to a 1200Mbps/1.2Gbps plan, and every speed test I've done far exceeds 1300/1.3

Anyways, sad that BootCamp is gone, but besides that unfortunate fact, so glad to hear that these Pros are good at gaming. Bought the Tomb Raider Bundle with Tomb, Shadow, and Rise, going to subscribe to WoW, plan on purchasing Resident Evil Village, and once I get my new SteelSeries controller in the mail from Apple, I'm going to get Apple Arcade, since it comes with 4 months for free.

Some addons will track FPS. I use ElvUI as my UI replacement, and there is an option there to show FPS on one of the info mars at the bottom of the chat window. But there is no built-in mechanism to display FPS in the WoW client (whether live or Classic).

 

[mario-64]

Why are you targeting 60fps when the MBP’s screen is 120hz? I’m curious to know what settings and resolution these Macs can run at 120fps.
My base 14” M1 has to drop to quality 5 at 1/2 native screen resolution plus disable compute in order to do it.

 

[TheRomeroZombie]

Why are you targeting 60fps when the MBP’s screen is 120hz? I’m curious to know what settings and resolution these Macs can run at 120fps.
My base 14” M1 has to drop to quality 5 at 1/2 native screen resolution plus disable compute in order to do it.

Not sure why 120 fps would be a must. On my M2 Max MBP16 with 96 GB of memory, I'm able to play with 10/10 graphics and a 3456x2234 resolution (which is default on my machine when launching the game). So basically as high as it goes, and keep a consistent 95 to 110 fps. Just depends on the map and whether I'm doing pvp. I think anything over 60 is great.

That being said, on my machine at least, if you absolutely had to have 120fps, I'm able to accomplish that at 8/10, 7/10 on the most demanding maps and pvp, same resolution though.

 

[TheRomeroZombie]

Some addons will track FPS. I use ElvUI as my UI replacement, and there is an option there to show FPS on one of the info mars at the bottom of the chat window. But there is no built-in mechanism to display FPS in the WoW client (whether live or Classic).

Yes thank you. I just noticed on the bottom right corner of the screen, you can hover over the question mark in game, and it will show framerate. At least when playing an updated version on Ventura 13.2. And I am quite happy about that. It's going to be good for testing out different maps and making changes while not plugged in and using battery.

I also heard that Xcode has a tool (quartz debug I think) that can do so, which I have installed, just haven't been able to figure it out, but thankfully it is not necessary.

 

[TheRomeroZombie]

decent upgrades. I'll just wait for the M3 as it's not enough of a jump. I want 120fps

You can get that on the M2 Max. I am. Not on 10/10 though. but 7 or 8, depending on the map. I do consistently get between 95 and 110 on 10/10 though. just depends on the map and pvp

 

[TheRomeroZombie]

Go with the new expansion Dragonflight, its really good and looks great in the M2 Max.

Yes, I did. That's what I went with. I was a bit confused coming back to this game. WoW, WoW Classic, Warcraft Reforged. Man, they really try to milk it for everything they can get don't they? I'm happy to be playing again, but I do feel like Blizzard has gone a bit down hill since my playing days over a decade ago.

 

[Nermal]

Anyone know of a way to check fps in WoW?

If you just want to see the current frame rate, press Ctrl-R. If you want more than that then I'm not sure.

 

[mario-64]

Not sure why 120 fps would be a must. On my M2 Max MBP16 with 96 GB of memory, I'm able to play with 10/10 graphics and a 3456x2234 resolution (which is default on my machine when launching the game). So basically as high as it goes, and keep a consistent 95 to 110 fps. Just depends on the map and whether I'm doing pvp. I think anything over 60 is great.

That being said, on my machine at least, if you absolutely had to have 120fps, I'm able to accomplish that at 8/10, 7/10 on the most demanding maps and pvp, same resolution though.

Ok thank you. Once you’ve played WoW (or really any game) at high refresh you’ll understand why it’s essential. 60fps just doesn’t cut it when your screen can do better.

 

[TheRomeroZombie]

Ok thank you. Once you’ve played WoW (or really any game) at high refresh you’ll understand why it’s essential. 60fps just doesn’t cut it when your screen can do better.

But haven't I? Maybe not at Ultra high 10/10, but I have at 8/10. And to get the graphics at 10/10, you're telling me 10 fps makes that big of a difference? I just got done telling you that you can do ultra high at 110 fps. I just got done playing at that. Who said anything about 60?

 

[mario-64]

But haven't I? Maybe not at Ultra high 10/10, but I have at 8/10. And to get the graphics at 10/10, you're telling me 10 fps makes that big of a difference? I just got done telling you that you can do ultra high at 110 fps. I just got done playing at that. Who said anything about 60?

Sorry perhaps I misunderstood. I thought you were targeting 60.

 

[Nermal]

Yes, I did. That's what I went with. I was a bit confused coming back to this game. WoW, WoW Classic, Warcraft Reforged. Man, they really try to milk it for everything they can get don't they?

Classic is something the fans (including me!) had been asking for for years, so it's not really "milking". There's no extra charge for Classic.

 

[mrthreechilli]

You will not be disappointed. Here are the settings on my setup, I run it in window mode as my desk screen is 43" so full screen is just too big when playing. It is nearly full screen though.
I like to fix it at 60fps with Vsync on, makes it really smooth and the M2 Max is able to keep 60fps 99% of the time.

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View attachment 2151028 One question, why did you choose Apple M2 Max (Low Power) instead of Auto Detect as the Graphics Card option?

 

[dstew201]

Classic is something the fans (including me!) had been asking for for years, so it's not really "milking". There's no extra charge for Classic.

🤣 I can’t see grinding all over again for the bar man’s shank or going thru molten core … were fun times tho 🤣

 

[Crispe]

I ran WoW on Ultra settings on my M1 Max 24c Studio and I don't recall any frame rate issues. WoW seems very well optimised for these chips either way.

 

[dstew201]

I ran WoW on Ultra settings on my M1 Max 24c Studio and I don't recall any frame rate issues. WoW seems very well optimised for these chips either way.

I ran wow on a custom amd rig 18 years ago …. At max settings.. I’m sure these new chips can handle classic

 

[EspressoEnthusiast]

Yes it is the 16”. I did and it was fluctuating between 80-110fps so plenty of headroom. So impressed so far.

It's a heck of a machine. No doubt you are impressed.

 

[Wokis]

Figures since it runs very well on my Air's M2 that an actively cooled Max might be able to just max out the settings and render resolution.

Nice to see such is the case!

The high per-core perf of M2 is also such a nice way of getting high FPS in Valdrakken. I don't have any clinical test to back this up (would love to see one) but I could imagine you have to go with an AMD 5800X3D to get that kind of smooth experience on a PC.

 

[SpitUK]

I would rather run at maximum detail at 60fps than a lower detail at 120fps. That’s a personal choice, I think it runs brilliantly now with my M2 Max and I can’t stop playing.
Waiting for the M3 doesn’t make a lot of sense as we will be waiting for the next expansion by then which will be more graphically demanding.

 

[BigMcGuire]

M1 Max here. FOR THE HORDE.

Played a Hpally (pvp) from BC to Mop and then played off/on till Warlords and just couldn't stand the changes ... Horde begging the alliance to restore their honor, wtf?

Classic ... I didn't believe it when I first heard it. Leveled a mage because a lifetime of playing a plate healer I figured why not. Well, Mage was horrible in PVP WOTLK Classic (or I just sucked at it) so .... leveled an hPally and now I'm healing again in bgs again and 1400+ in arena.

I use an external 4k monitor and the M1 Max handles it with no noise with nearly max settings. Nice to see the M2 doing so well. I know when I have the funds to upgrade again that it'll be amazing .

Nice to see other WoW players out there here.

 

[dmccloud]

🤣 I can’t see grinding all over again for the bar man’s shank or going thru molten core … were fun times tho 🤣

I've mained hunter since vanilla - I forgot how much of a PITA it was to have to feed your hunter pets and buy ammo all the time...

 

[aliea13]

I’m running WoW on my M2 Pro Mac mini 12/19 cores, using the Apple Studio display with 5k resolution. All settings on Ultra except shadows and water (which are not that important anyways) with 50% scaling. Getting constant 60fps.

 

[MrGunny94]

That's amazing! My 5800X3D skips a beat every second in Valdrakken!