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wattso

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Oct 11, 2006
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Worst post ever.

Seriously it's not like you even tried to elaborate or create a discussion, you just put "yesterday". Why did you bother wasting your time? It wasn't constructive or interesting or worthwhile. Many people including me are very happy at the outcome of the keynote. Im going to assume its the 3g iphone you have a problem with, try explaining your ideas if you are going to voice them.

Otherwise just keep quiet.
 

StealthRider

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Jan 23, 2002
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Here and there!
Alternatively, if you don't like a thread, you don't have to post in it. Amazing how that works. He was unhappy with the delivery of the keynote, not necessarily the product announcements. RTFT.

And I agree, he looked pretty bad...
 

redAPPLE

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May 7, 2002
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And I agree, he looked pretty bad...

iThink i'm lost... are we going to discuss the keynote (on how it is the "worst.keynote.ever") or on how bad sj looks like?

imo, the op's opinion on the keynote is lacking. it is the same as frequent posts in youtube... e.g. that video sucks...

without giving any reason, why the poster thinks this is so.

but anyway, there will always be people who will be disappointed after a keynote.
 

wattso

macrumors regular
Oct 11, 2006
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Chester UK
But its not a constructive thread! He hasn't explained why he didn't like it, and actually since this was moved from the iPhone section I'm quite entitled to assume. He's attempting to play the devils advocate not have a discussion or voice his opinions.

If someone posted in a book thread, worst book ever : the one i read yesterday. It defeats the whole object of posting. As does this thread. OP: what exactly did you not like about yesterdays keynote?
 

MBX

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well to be a little more constructive:

- Plastic Case (Downgrade to the current first-gen iphone design)

- Nothing new really presented except the same ol app developer demos.

- No 32gb, wtf? Now i have to carry an additional ipod with me. Great.

- Again waiting after we just waited so long for this WWDC.

- New ****** expensive AT&T rates

- Nothing really about Snow Leopard either.
 

Abstract

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Dec 27, 2002
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Oh come on. We all know what the OP was referring to, and we all know how boring that Keynote was. I don't know if it was the worst Apple keynote ever, but it was the worst Stevenote ever. I've never seen an Apple keynote with a lot of "filler" before.

Usually, a Stevenote is 60-90 minute parade with Steve continuously shooting a brilliant hodge-podge of Skittle-coloured fireworks and glittery lights into the sky and watching them burst into an orgasm-inducing display of fluffy tap-dancing bears and pig-tailed bubble-gum cheerleaders on rollerskates. This keynote was Steve standing in the corner for 45 minutes, playing Brain Age on his DS.
 

wattso

macrumors regular
Oct 11, 2006
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Chester UK
I agree he did look very skinny and lost some of his stage charisma he usually possesses. I am worried what will happen to Apple when Steve retires, I assume he will still be involved with the company in some way and wont let anything cock up too much?
 

tytanic11

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Aug 13, 2007
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It was horrible - my friends and I just waited for the filler to end and the amazing products to come out, but it never really happened. The 3G phone was expected, as was the app store. The subsidy just sucks - the iPhone will turn into the next Razr or other semi-cheap carrier-pushed phone; I just hope that Apple will refuse to cheapen it in order to hit a price point - though this trend is already starting with the plastic back and lack of dock.
 

Melrose

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Dec 12, 2007
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I think if you're going to post an opinion about something, at least have the guts and ambition to say why you don't like it. I think just posting 'Yesterday' is ambiguous enough to be interpreted as meaning something else entirely. imo, post with substance. One-word posts should be disallowed.

That being said...
He did have cancer of something several years ago, right?

I watched the whole Jobsnote, and thought it was funny why he handed so much over that new guy who looks like a young version of Christopher Walken. That guy doesn't have nearly the panache of Jobs himself. I thought also it was a bit filler-y.
 

nbs2

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Mar 31, 2004
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well to be a little more constructive:

- Plastic Case (Downgrade to the current first-gen iphone design)

- Nothing new really presented except the same ol app developer demos.

- No 32gb, wtf? Now i have to carry an additional ipod with me. Great.

- Again waiting after we just waited so long for this WWDC.

- New ****** expensive AT&T rates

- Nothing really about Snow Leopard either.

Fair enough. As your opinions are your opinions, I cannot refute or deny them. However, I stand in contrast.

  • I would have preferred anodized Al in black, but Apple seems to prefer the plastic thing. Also, I don't know how the white logo would have worked on the Al.
  • Developer demos are good at developer conferences. Especially as it builds excitement for a new revenue stream. Apple will want/need that if the ATT kickbacks are gone.
  • Yeah, the limited size is crappy, but it is something that you just sort of make do with. Size for the iPhone won't increase, I expect, until the touch is ready for 32/64.
  • Waiting a month does a lot of good things, not the least of which is making sure there is ample publicity so that people don't start crying about how Apple just released a new iPhone and I bought mine yesterday.
  • The increased rates were a given, as people can be expected to use more bandwidth as the speed increases. All this $10 increase (not all that ****** in my view when viewed in a relative fashion) does is bring prices in line with what ATT charges for all their other products.
  • Snow Leopard was addressed in later sessions, I believe. If the supposed minimal features, better performace deal is true, there would be little to show off at the keynote that would really garner an ooo or aah

Oh come on. We all know what the OP was referring to, and we all know how boring that Keynote was. I don't know if it was the worst Apple keynote ever, but it was the worst Stevenote ever. I've never seen an Apple keynote with a lot of "filler" before.

Usually, a Stevenote is 60-90 minute parade with Steve continuously shooting a brilliant hodge-podge of Skittle-coloured fireworks and glittery lights into the sky and watching them burst into an orgasm-inducing display of fluffy tap-dancing bears and pig-tailed bubble-gum cheerleaders on rollerskates. This keynote was Steve standing in the corner for 45 minutes, playing Brain Age on his DS.

Fluffy tap-dancing bears? I gotta get me one of those.
 

richard.mac

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Feb 2, 2007
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the iPhone developer demos did drag on for what seemed like ages… everytime Scott said "and next up" i was like "ohhhh!".

but the enterprise features, SDK demo, iPhone 3G and the videos/ads were awesome.
 

edesignuk

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Mar 25, 2002
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The subsidy just sucks - the iPhone will turn into the next Razr or other semi-cheap carrier-pushed phone; I just hope that Apple will refuse to cheapen it in order to hit a price point - though this trend is already starting with the plastic back and lack of dock.
The iPhone is about promoting Apple services which cost you money over time. They need a large user base to make this work. Letting the carriers subsidise the hardware cost is the only way iPhone will take a significant share of the market. All these iPhone's out there then provide a revenue stream directly in to Apple for years to come though commission on apps, music, movies, and .Me. They're looking at the bigger picture here. Next step is for the initial exclusivity deals to expire and version 3/4 of the iPhone to be available on all compatible carriers. Apple continually irritate me, but they do what they do very well. The Apple digital lifestyle has been a long term plan that has been years in the making, and is now all starting to really come together, with no doubt much more to come.

All of that said, yesterdays keynote was possibly the most boring thing I have ever bothered to sit through :eek: :D
 

themadchemist

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Jan 31, 2003
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While these products might not be terribly exciting for you, they'll probably be great for Apple's bottom line. With, for now, most of the key products in place across their areas of interest, Apple is making sure it's competitive at all price points. This year, it seems to me, is about filling in the gaps (including with the MacBook Air). You can't expect them just to keep producing ridiculous gadgets for your entertainment--because neither you nor anyone else will buy one.

When a new, lucrative market emerges, I'm sure Apple will be early on the scene. There just isn't one now. (That said, I agree that there are some incremental improvements to the current computer lines that, while not exciting, would be useful).

As for Steve, he is looking a little thin. I really hope it's not the cancer reemerging.
 

lofight

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Jun 16, 2007
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does the special event about the ipod hi-fi count as a keynote?

if so, that is my imo most boring keynote ever.

Was there a keynote only dedicated to the ipod hi-fi? :eek:

It was indeed the one of the worst and maybe even the worst keynote ever. Although there was a big announcement, the first three quarters were very boring.
 

Abstract

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Dec 27, 2002
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All of that said, yesterdays keynote was possibly the most boring thing I have ever bothered to sit through :eek: :D

I saw the photo. You were practically sleeping. :p

Your wife seemed to be putting up with the boredom quite well, although I don't remember her posting with us at the time. Wasn't a pretty sight anyway.


Fluffy tap-dancing bears? I gotta get me one of those.

Hopefully they'll make their return at MWSF 2009.
 

Klaxons2012

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Sep 20, 2007
225
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well to be a little more constructive:

- Plastic Case (Downgrade to the current first-gen iphone design)

I'm not sure what you have in mind when you think "plastic", but given Apple's use of plastics in the past, I doubt it's going to be a flimsy plastic. I personally think style wise it's an upgrade.

- Nothing new really presented except the same ol app developer demos.

Games that use motion, medical imaging, enterprise software and a slew of other features were showcased yesterday. I don't understand how that is "the same ol app"?

- No 32gb, wtf? Now i have to carry an additional ipod with me. Great.

I understand that gripe, but 16gb isn't that bad. I could manage.

- New ****** expensive AT&T rates

I don't understand why people think they can pay the same rate for EDGE as they do 3G. It's amazing. That's like wanting to get the same rate for dialup as you would for a T1? Two different networks, two differnet speeds. If you want to upgrade, you're going to have to pay.

- Nothing really about Snow Leopard either.
Snow Leopard sounds like a service pack to me.
 

edesignuk

Moderator emeritus
Mar 25, 2002
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London, England
I don't understand why people think they can pay the same rate for EDGE as they do 3G. It's amazing. That's like wanting to get the same rate for dialup as you would for a T1? Two different networks, two differnet speeds. If you want to upgrade, you're going to have to pay.
Data is data. Data cost for old EDGE iPhone vs 3G iPhone in the UK haven't changed. This does seem to be AT&T being greedy *shock*.
 

BillyBobBongo

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Jun 21, 2007
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Man, it was like pulling teeth! I was watching it this morning thinking "Okay so the iPhone has 3G and some new apps....get on with the rest of it"....but the rest never came! :( I get Apple are proud of their iPhone, the GLW (Good Lady Wife) saw the white one and I'm 100% certain what her new phone is gonna be, but to use so much time on it was mad.

I guess we have to look in the mirror though and realise that since we follow the rumors all the time it's just always gonna be that bit harder to impress us.

Let's hope his next one is more up to par!
 

hotzenplotz

macrumors regular
Sep 19, 2007
205
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I think the Keynote was solid, since this was a DEVELOPER conference, as opposed to the annual consumer Macworld. A lot of good information came out of it.
 

Hawkeye411

macrumors 68000
Jun 6, 2007
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Canada EH!!!
A thread like this always appears after a keynote LMAO
Usually posted by someone who didn't get the update they were looking for.

I'm surprised that it took a day for someone to post it though.

Cheers,
:):apple:
 
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