Other Would be nice if Apple gave us control over charging!

[Htsi]

Then take them to starbucks for a coffee date first.
If you have a car, I hope you never change the oil in it, imagine the nightmare playing out in your mind...

Car "mechanics" are the worst of all.
You're lucky to find one that can do a proper fluid change without undertightening, overtightening, using the wrong fluids, and/or leaving a dripping mess behind that you find on your garage floor the next morning.

The VW dealer has caused damage to my car many times. Never seen them with a torque wrench either. They got my DSG swapped twice under warranty so I don’t take it too seriously. Wrong fluids don’t happen often at a dealership, My complaints are cosmetic damage / dirtying up the interior more than mechanical tasks, which also is there since I can visually see the dirt, but not any over/under torqued bolts.

 

[yukari]

It never ceases to amaze me that people on the forums think that they know better than Apple battery engineers who make careers out of batteries, including battery life.

@eyoungren is giving sage advice as usual, plug it in and let the Apple engineers take care of it. When the battery dies, replace it with a genuine Apple battery - it’s not that expensive.

That said, I have a Watch that‘s almost 2 years old and shows no sign of losing battery life - I turned off AOD and enabled ‘raise to wake’, and that’s all I’ve done. Kind of amazing since the battery is the size of a postage stamp.

You do realize Apple does not have battery engineers. They don't make batteries. All of their batteries are supplied by battery manufacturers.

So, no. they don't know better than others who study batteries. I imagine lots of people on this forum have extensive knowledge in batteries and other technologies. Some of those people probably know a lot more about batteries than engineers at Apple.

Plus, it's against Apple's financial interest to have option of limiting battery charge to 80%. They want you to buy new iphone as often as possible.

 

[reppans]

Nvm

 

[Jackbequickly]

If the FCC gets their way, not only will GPS be turned on 24/7, your phone will have to be registered with the FCC to use the Internet.

 

[Azathoth123]

You do realize Apple does not have battery engineers. They don't make batteries. All of their batteries are supplied by battery manufacturers.

So, no. they don't know better than others who study batteries. I imagine lots of people on this forum have extensive knowledge in batteries and other technologies. Some of those people probably know a lot more about batteries than engineers at Apple.

Plus, it's against Apple's financial interest to have option of limiting battery charge to 80%. They want you to buy new iphone as often as possible.

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[Mark Stone]

Lithium ion batteries' capacity tends to deteriorate if they're kept at close to 100% or 0% for long periods. If you're storing a battery it's best to discharge it to 50% beforehand and try to keep it there.

It's more of an issue with devices that spend a lot of time plugged in (like, say, a laptop that you use in a docked setup), as they will stay at 100% for a longer period. With phones it's less of an issue because they're mostly used off the charger, so they don't spend a lot of time at 100%. The optimised charging feature is a reasonable solution because phones tend to stay plugged in longest overnight.

I don't really know how much extra life you end up getting out of your battery if you handle it carefully like this.

Thank you for the detailed response! 😊

 

[mlody]

Apple chooses simplicity over full functionality, which can be seen by many of the built in-apps. That does not mean that those apps are absolute the best. The same goes with the battery charging. They recognize that charging to full is not the best thing, but instead of giving people complete control, they chose to apply AI / ML, which is hit or miss, so I am not surprised people want more control.

As the general population slowly (very slowly) gravitates towards EVs, and electrification, picking some good habits when maintaining phone batteries will go a long way to extend the life of future EVs. I would not want to buy a used EV down to the road from a driver who daily charged it to %100, for instance. I know, we are talking about $1000 phone vs. $50000 car, but the same general principle applies. There is nothing wrong with trying to take good care for things we own.

For all the MacBooks we have in our household, we use the AlDente app to control the charging behavior as we don't trust the so-called optimized charging. We still use Apple's original 5W bricks from years ago for the iPhones, as we don't care for fast or wireless charging. Things last and that makes us happy.

 

[ValerieDurden]

I charge overnight, there is no need for such a thing. I never let my phones go below 30% if I can help it but charge every night usually to 100%. That goes for my S21 Ultra as well and still great battery health.