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0dev

macrumors 68040
Dec 22, 2009
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If I have to choose between those I'll go for the Samsung Galaxy, although I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus 7 running CM10.1 right now :)
 

appleisking

macrumors 6502a
May 24, 2013
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Why am I not surprised by this? ;)

Which part? The username or the forum? lol ;)

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I find I can get much more accomplished with a true computer, rather than a consumption device. The one thing I've always been confused about is when people say they prefer windows only when they want to be more functional, but a windows tablet CAN be a dumb tablet just as well as an ipad can. I feel I get the best of both worlds, I can have a dumb tablet like an ipad, AND have a full version of Windows all in one.

My only problem with your reasoning is the iPad is better as a consumption device than a windows tablet. Windows comes with a few tradeoffs (large amount of storage taken, large needs for power so battery life goes down), and there are fewer apps than those of android and ios. If you get windows 8 pro ur free to download whatever you want in exe format, which is great but these devices have huge issues with battery life and storage options. Windows RT, which is easier on the tablet than the full windows, on the other hand, is at the mercy of the windows store apps, which are majorly lacking compared to other platforms. Then of course there comes personal preference for oses, I simply like ios more than windows 8.
 

ReallyBigFeet

macrumors 68030
Apr 15, 2010
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I'm curious what you don't like about windows tablets that makes you say they are "utter crap". I've owned almost every single Atom windows tablet and I'd say they are all at the very least equal to any ipad or android device in functionality, although I'd say my current tablet, a Lenovo thinkpad tablet 2, is far above them in functionality and is built very well.

I'm also using the Lenovo with an Atom processor. From a hardware perspective, it's netbook-class computing. But Win8 kills performance and eats memory. Word literally lags text as I type, and opening very large PDF files (Autocad architectural drawings in my case) kills the CPU. It's just too little horsepower to be much more than, in your words, a dumb tablet. I've also been through two units already and on my third. Screen quit responding to input on first, CPU failure on second. My third is behaving fine, but performance and responsiveness is anemic.

iOS was built in conjunction with the hardware for the devices when it comes to iPads, and it shows. Not true with Windows tablets. Microsoft is way, way out over their skis in this arena and continue to attempt to force-fit the desktop paradigm into a completely alien (to them) form factor.

If Android can escape the "its just a bigger phone" paradigm for tablets, they will destroy any chance of Windows tablets ever escaping Enterprise IT confines. But until/unless that happens, no contest.

I do like the form factor of this Panasonic toughbook tablet, however. Dang near indestructible. Too bad the only way to achieve this with consumer-grade iPads is to clad them in so much rubber and metal that you ruin the user experience.
 

TacticalDesire

macrumors 68020
Mar 19, 2012
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What tablet do you use?

What's your daily driver tablet if you have one?

For me it's the iPad mini. If I need something in between a computer and a phone the mini is what I take. Performance is mediocre and the screen is blah but it's thin, light,speakers are great, the battery life is fantastic and iOS's tablet apps can't be beat. I also have an iPad 3, a few Kindle Fire's and another random android tablet or two but the mini is my go to.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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I presently use an iPad Mini as it's primarily used for consumption (web browsing, email, occasional gaming, ebooks/magazines) and IMO, the iPad is still best in this arena. I'd will either upgrade to the next mini if it's adopts a high resolution display though I'm will consider the next gen full size iPad as the rumored revised form factor (lighter, thinner, smaller footprint) is certainly appealing, considering I moved from a 3rd gen iPad to the mini primarily for greater portability.

I am also intrigued by Windows tablets such as the Surface Pro (running full Windows and using adequately powerful CPUs) but not until battery life improves dramatically (hopefully with adoption of the new Haswell CPUs).
 
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ReallyBigFeet

macrumors 68030
Apr 15, 2010
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What's your daily driver tablet if you have one?

For me it's the iPad mini. If I need something in between a computer and a phone the mini is what I take. Performance is mediocre and the screen is blah but it's thin, light,speakers are great, the battery life is fantastic and iOS's tablet apps can't be beat. I also have an iPad 3, a few Kindle Fire's and another random android tablet or two but the mini is my go to.

Agree with this for many, many users. The smaller iPad form factor, regardless of the Jobs "not while I'm alive!" mentality, really is superlative for the mass-market. I think once the Mini grows up spec-wise and sheds the iPad 2 architecture and screen, it will come into its own as the crown jewel of the iPad lineup.
 

Hastings101

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Jun 22, 2010
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If a "Windows tablet" is one of those running on x86, I'd take it lol.

Otherwise, Samsung Galaxy tablet then iPad then Windows tablet
 

thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,240
3,499
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I own a Windows tablet, my girlfriend recently gave her iPad to her mom, and uses my tablet. :(

It's just better for everything* though

*excluding single-function image filter apps and fart apps
 

jaymzuk

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Jun 1, 2012
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I currently own an iPad 2, but when that comes to the end of it's life (And Apple will probably deem that to be sooner rather than later), I'll either go Windows Tablet or nothing.

A windows tablet could double up as a usable laptop, whereas the iPad is more of a consumption device/toy. I don't need it in my life, and I won't miss it terribly.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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I'm also using the Lenovo with an Atom processor. From a hardware perspective, it's netbook-class computing. But Win8 kills performance and eats memory. Word literally lags text as I type, and opening very large PDF files (Autocad architectural drawings in my case) kills the CPU. It's just too little horsepower to be much more than, in your words, a dumb tablet. I've also been through two units already and on my third. Screen quit responding to input on first, CPU failure on second. My third is behaving fine, but performance and responsiveness is anemic.

iOS was built in conjunction with the hardware for the devices when it comes to iPads, and it shows. Not true with Windows tablets. Microsoft is way, way out over their skis in this arena and continue to attempt to force-fit the desktop paradigm into a completely alien (to them) form factor.

If Android can escape the "its just a bigger phone" paradigm for tablets, they will destroy any chance of Windows tablets ever escaping Enterprise IT confines. But until/unless that happens, no contest.

I do like the form factor of this Panasonic toughbook tablet, however. Dang near indestructible. Too bad the only way to achieve this with consumer-grade iPads is to clad them in so much rubber and metal that you ruin the user experience.

You should really send that unit in for repair or replacement. I've never had Word lag on me with an Atom tablet, I'm quite impressed how smooth it is. In fact One Note using the digitizer is quite smooth, even on fairly large documents, and that takes a lot of cpu. Photoshop runs quite well on it. Even things that my ipad could never dream of doing like having a crap ton of tabs open in a web browser my atom tablet does with complete ease, ie no lag, slowdown, checkerboarding, reloading of website, etc, all things my ipad does. Granted I'm talking about an ipad 3, which to me runs like utter crap when it does all those things I mentioned. I'm sure the ipad 4 runs better, but hey it only took them 4 iterations to do what the atom tablet does it's first run out, you can only imagine the second run with the Baytrail CPU's. I can honestly say that my ipad 3 runs like "utter crap", I've been forced to use it for a couple of weeks because my daughter dropped my wintab in the bathtub and I have to wait for squaretrade to send me a check, and I am utterly disgusted and depressed each and every day I'm forced to use that complete POS. Sorry to be blunt, but if I never have a webpage checkerboard, or a tab reload, or my entire browser just force shut itself down again I will be the happiest person in the world. Hardware built in conjunction with iOS my a$$.

I highly disagree that MS is overclassed. Now I have my misgivings about the surface Pro, I make no secret about that, and I also make no secret that I think Win RT is complete and utter junk. But my atom tablet runs rings around my ipad 3 in terms of responsiveness and power, and that's not even to mention the incredible library of legacy programs which completely dwarf the iOS market.

MS problem isn't so much hardware, it's being complete morons from a marketing standpoint. Confusing the market with WinRT, then putting all their weight behind a niche jack of all trades master of none in the surface Pro, and releasing an unfinished OS in Windows 8 all converged to make them seem stupid, which they are. If they had put all their strength, marketing, and hardware wizardry behind the atom tablets I think we would have a MUCH different story, yes that's how much I stand behind them and their performance. Of course the reality is that MS fubared much of this and it's hurt them badly.
 

nickchallis92

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2012
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Don't see the point of the iPad. What's the point in getting something 4 times larger than your phone and getting no extra functionality.

Windows tablet for me. If you want to mess around and browse the internet casually you can, but if you need to do something more serious, hey presto here's a full blown OS.

For me, Android and Apple aren't even close to making an OS good for a tablet like windows have


Edit:

I'd actually go as far as to say iOS is the most useless OS on a tablet. What a pile of poo
 

tech4all

macrumors 68040
Jun 13, 2004
3,399
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NorCal
Haven't used Windows 8 tablet so can't comment on that.

iOS? Not much for a wall of icons and no customization and less specs for more money. Thanks, but no thanks.

Android...prefer pure Android rather than Samsungs version...

Don't see the point of the iPad. What's the point in getting something 4 times larger than your phone and getting no extra functionality.

Windows tablet for me. If you want to mess around and browse the internet casually you can, but if you need to do something more serious, hey presto here's a full blown OS.

For me, Android and Apple aren't even close to making an OS good for a tablet like windows have


Edit:

I'd actually go as far as to say iOS is the most useless OS on a tablet. What a pile of poo

That sounded a bit childish, but I would agree to a point.
 

ChrisTX

macrumors 68030
Dec 30, 2009
2,686
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Texas
According to the story on the front page, the answer is own an iPad. Apple is dominating, while it's competitors are slashing prices hoping to sucker someone into buying one!
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
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A windows pro tablet (not the RT). Preferably in an 8 inch form factor.

All my apps on my mobile devices rarely get touched and I still use my laptop heavily, so a windows tablet would be the best means to pry me away from the laptop.

Or, if it ever happens, a proper OS X tablet (not the mobile form that is called ios).
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
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iPad because it has the best factory support, largest tablet app selection, and will have the factory software updates long after it is purchased.
 

srkmish

macrumors regular
Feb 10, 2013
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These "Ios is not good enough because its not good for productivity" sermons are really childish.

Yes, on the work front , i have a full fledged desktop which helps me in photoshop/music editing. But when i want to chill, i throw productivity out the window and want to enjoy the best in gaming/entertainment that the tablet world has to offer . And ios has a lot more to offer than android and windows currently.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
These "Ios is not good enough because its not good for productivity" sermons are really childish.

Yes, on the work front , i have a full fledged desktop which helps me in photoshop/music editing. But when i want to chill, i throw productivity out the window and want to enjoy the best in gaming/entertainment that the tablet world has to offer . And ios has a lot more to offer than android and windows currently.

The first part about productivity makes no sense, so do you use the ipad when you want to be productive on the road? As for entertainment you can do all that one a windows tablet too, except gaming. Gaming IS definitely a huge weak point with windows tablets compared to the ipad and MS NEEDS to address this.
 
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