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Hx0r

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Well... ill just download windows xp through torrent i guess.

This is what I am thinking too. You need to get a legitimate copy of Windows. I'm pretty sure that the copy that your mom has is the one that came with her HP and won't work in Boot Camp anyway...

Nope, its a copy we got... from the dells, and dell sends full OS's :p, not just restore discs.
 

MacDawg

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Well... ill just download windows xp through torrent i guess.

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Chundles

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Jul 4, 2005
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Why not just forget about it? Just shrug your shoulders, go "meh, OK" and do something else.
 

coledog

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And here I thought this wouldn't make it to 34 posts! How wrong I was...

Don't get it through torrent as that'll get you in trouble with your mom as you'll have Windows installed and you won't have the disc...she'll start wondering, etc...
 

jonbravo77

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Nope, its a copy we got... from the dells, and dell sends full OS's :p, not just restore discs.

OK, the Dell copy not going to work. That disk has all the stuff on it for the Dell, that's why it has a nifty blue label that says Dell on it. Listen carefully please, you will be violating Microsoft's EULA if you try to install that Dell disk onto your computer.

Go out and buy yourself a legal copy. Do not download a torrent or do anything else. I know this is hard to except and you want it your way but it is not the right way...
 

T10HJS

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Sep 18, 2008
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hmmm, rather odd she should be so concerned what you do with your property, are you sure you haven't blown something up in the past?
Then again its odd that she would lock up some boot disks, surely if someone broke in they would rather steal your Mac.
 

cazlar

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Oct 2, 2003
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Just a question, what can actually go wrong when partitioning?

Well, usually (at least in the past) with partitioning you are reformatting the disk entirely. However, the BootCamp install does some nifty re-partitioning of the HDD without a reformat. The worst case scenario, if there is an error, is that the volume structure of the disk is completely hosed and you will need to re-format it anyway, and thus re-install everything back onto it.

How much this affects you depends on your backup status of course. Though even with a full time machine backup, or a current bootable backup from Superduper/CCC, you are probably looking at a fair stretch of time just to get back to where you started. So, even though an error may be unlikely, a partition is a potentially dangerous act, compared to most other things.
 

jonbravo77

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I think there is something pretty major that is being missed with all this encouragement to go get the disk from his mom. The disk in question will be a disk that was shipped with another computer and will have been installed on that computer. The OP even said that the disks are from Dell that he wants to use.

So there seems to be a lot of encouragement to go ahead and illegally use Windows on his bootcamp. Just an observation :D
 

primape08

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May 29, 2008
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The cheapest/easiest thing for the OP to do would be to acquire a copy of Windows XP through less than reputable means online, as I have successfully and wrongfully done in the past to run in Boot Camp. However, that would be terribly illegal and unfair to the developers of the software, so I staunchly disapprove of anything of the sort. While heading to a particular bay to associate with ship pillagers would be very simple and free, it is completely outweighed by the damages it produces on the end of the manufacturer. I offer this advice only to sway the OP from resorting to such measures.
 

mayanka89

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Aug 10, 2008
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I was always scared to torrent major things like an OS. Who knows what backdoors these pirates could have implemented in the disk?

My father was also apprehensive about installing Windows on my 2.4 Macbook, but after I showed him the instructions on the Apple website, and how easy it was, he said it was okay with him. But I also had a good reason to Bootcamp, as some of engineering programs do not have a Mac version.
 

opeter

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Well, an american guy did kill his parents, because his father (a priest) didn't let him play Halo, a game, he did buy for birthday (or something similar, don't remember)...

Yeah, i know it's quite sick, but not allowing something can have similar consequenses.
 

toliman

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Aug 4, 2007
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heh, my mom wouldn't let me plug in the Apple IIc portable into the television set, just so i could get games & apple logo/basic to work in colour. that was the early 90's i think.

i suppose, things haven't really changed that much :)

the hardest/dangerous problem with bootcamp is repartitioning, not the windows install. especially on a laptop.

have you considered using crossover instead of wine/cedega or parallels/vmware ? cedega would be easier, but the dx8/dx9 issues might be insurmountable, i suppose.

you really just dump the 5gb folder into the cedega folder, edit the cedega files to point to gw.exe, and run gw.exe to check and update gw.dat, which inserts the registry entries for guild wars, and downloads updates. there's guides for setting up other apps via cedega, so it couldn't be too harsh.


if youre still fixed on bootcamp, download superduper + get a cheap ~250gb usb hdd from the store (ideally one that's at least 2x larger than your macbook hdd, doesnt have to be a portable drive or have firewire either - firewire would be faster), backup the macbook hdd to the external and boot from the external drive, see if that works first. it should take a few hours so you can read over the bootcamp manuals, how to switch drives for booting up, etc.

after you've booted from the backup drive to test it works, then do your bootcamp prep. you can then later on leave the external as is, or occasionally you can do redo the entire drive backups to the external (superduper only copies over changed files ), and/or partition the rest of the external hdd to use as a time machine backup partition.

if the procedure goes screwy, you've got a solid, if slow, backup, and can restore everything back without any drama.
 

primape08

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May 29, 2008
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if youre still fixed on bootcamp, download superduper + get a cheap ~250gb usb hdd from the store (ideally one that's at least 2x larger than your macbook hdd, doesnt have to be a portable drive or have firewire either - firewire would be faster), backup the macbook hdd to the external and boot from the external drive, see if that works first. it should take a few hours so you can read over the bootcamp manuals, how to switch drives for booting up, etc.

Indeed, using SuperDuper is something that I currently do. Before partitioning my internal HDD via Boot Camp, I backed up my entire system to an external HDD just in case, and then tested the clone by booting up from the USB copy. This should eliminate most problems should the partitioning mess up the internal disk. But the OP would likely have to justify such a purchase to his mother, who might vehemently object to him backing up his system to a USB drive for fear that it might wreck the computer or something.

I was always scared to torrent major things like an OS. Who knows what backdoors these pirates could have implemented in the disk?

My father was also apprehensive about installing Windows on my 2.4 Macbook, but after I showed him the instructions on the Apple website, and how easy it was, he said it was okay with him. But I also had a good reason to Bootcamp, as some of engineering programs do not have a Mac version.


That is a perennial issue with torrents. Generally, by rule of thumb, if a particular torrent, for the sake of this discussion we'll say that it is a legally free OS such as Ubuntu, is used by several users without issue, subjected to several virus scans without being shown to contain anything malicious, and is provided by reputable uploaders, there is a much lesser chance that the torrent, say Ubuntu, is infected. Still, that does not eliminate the possibility. On my own system, i have several programs that I've downloaded via a particular bay, and for the sake of this discussion we'll say that all of them are provided as freeware by the manufacturers. I have yet to have a problem.
 

gumbyx84

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Dec 7, 2008
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Some have also had success running games with Crossover

Guild Wars, the OP's game is listed

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I second Crossover. I use it to play GW natively in Leopard and it runs wonderfully. It costs about $70 depending on where you buy it. It won't play most modern games (Crysis is an extreme example), but it runs games that are a few years old fine. Limited support for DirectX9.0c helps expand the library of working games.
 

dukebound85

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Jul 17, 2005
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Well, an american guy did kill his parents, because his father (a priest) didn't let him play Halo, a game, he did buy for birthday (or something similar, don't remember)...

Yeah, i know it's quite sick, but not allowing something can have similar consequenses.

so kids should be allowed to do anything they want then huh:rolleyes:
 

primape08

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May 29, 2008
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I second Crossover. I use it to play GW natively in Leopard and it runs wonderfully. It costs about $70 depending on where you buy it. It won't play most modern games (Crysis is an extreme example), but it runs games that are a few years old fine. Limited support for DirectX9.0c helps expand the library of working games.

A couple of months ago I remember that Crossover was given out for free in response to falling gas prices in New York, if I remember correctly, as part of the "Lame Duck" challenge. I have two versions of Crossover that were provided for free during the time, one of them specifically for games. But my lowly late 2007 Macbook would hardly be able to impress.
 
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