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Eliott69

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Such a monitor needs a color-calibrated lighting in the room it is used. This is not the successor of the Apple Cinema Display...
 
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Sometimes you have to make do with the environment you’re in. Have certainly seen designers working in rooms without perfectly attuned surroundings before, maybe op prefers being ale to use screen in a less than perfect environment than the realistic alternative of a sub optimal display.
 
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astrorider

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Maybe a screen room divider like those used for changing clothes, possibly retractable, just to block the lights behind you as needed.
 

chfilm

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Such a monitor needs a color-calibrated lighting in the room it is used. This is not the successor of the Apple Cinema Display...
I’m not gonna to color grading on it, just need a HUGE screen with retina resolution that looks great in the living room as well ;) Match, match, and Match. Occasionally I’ll judge colors on it that have been delivered to me when I work as a director, and then I can turn off the lights, but in every day working scenarios I need a lot of real estate for after effects and premiere and the best IQ I can get without too much hazzle.
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Maybe a screen room divider like those used for changing clothes, possibly retractable, just to block the lights behind you as needed.
Haha guys I appreciate these ideas but that’s not what I’m asking here, I won’t change this room!

I take it nobody here has a nano XDR at hand to chime into this dilemma.. :(
 

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I'm wondering how you guys imagine me attaching some to these lights without making for a real funny look over the dining table ;) ?
Just glue/tape/insert cutouts into those hexagonal sections, pretty simple. Would probably look cool actually.
 
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Eliott69

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Sometimes you have to make do with the environment you’re in. Have certainly seen designers working in rooms without perfectly attuned surroundings before, maybe op prefers being ale to use screen in a less than perfect environment than the realistic alternative of a sub optimal display.
Yeah, but for such surroundings you can get an optimal display for one third of the money. The quality of such a display as the XDR will not show in such non-optimal surroundings.

If one would have to choose between the two, I'd say from my experience that the surrounding lighting is more important than the quality of the display.
 
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chfilm

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Yeah, but for such surroundings you can get an optimal display for one third of the money. The quality of such a display will not show in such non-optimal surroundings.

If one would have to choose between the two, I'd say from my experience that the surrounding lighting is more important than the quality of the display.
Name one „optimal“ display that meets all my checkboxes please ;)
i think currently own the best nearest solution with my dell 5ks, but they’re too small.
 
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Pressure

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Name one „optimal“ display that meets all my checkboxes please ;)
i think currently own the best nearest solution with my dell 5ks, but they’re too small.

What exactly are these requirements?

If you own the small 5K displays you could always opt for the UP3218K.
 

OkiRun

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Very low watt red or blue frosted bulbs.

GF might thank you! Women say it makes them look better. :cool:
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I will chime in, next Wednesday when I get my Nano!
My XDR arrives on Sunday. Will try to send pics of the reflection.
 
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chfilm

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Why does it make zero sense in your opinion?

4K HiDPI looks awesome on it. Great when working with large projects in both Illustrator and Photoshop.
To me, UI would simply be too small. I think what Apple did was perfect, take the screen estate / resolution relation of a 1440p 5k Display and just extend the available real estate to 32“, and you end up with 6k, not 8! It‘s the same folks at Dell that developed 27“ 4k displays, god knows what we‘re supposed to do with such devices. Use a magnifying glass?
Just not for me.
 

chfilm

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... set the display scaling to the UI size that you want. Dell 27" 4K are our standard monitors - and the people with Apples just tell the system that it's a retina display.
Been there, done that, not acceptable results, I had two of those displays here for a week and had to send them back because I couldn‘t stand how washed out fonts looked on those 4k displays at an uneven HiDPI scaling. There‘s a reason the iMac is 5k and not 4k.
Actually this is part of the reason why I‘m contemplating my decision to go with the nano display, because fonts just look so much less crisp on it compared to the glossy one... Sigh I guess I‘ll just wait For it to be delivered because I need to see how it looks in my own environment.
 

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To me, UI would simply be too small. I think what Apple did was perfect, take the screen estate / resolution relation of a 1440p 5k Display and just extend the available real estate to 32“, and you end up with 6k, not 8! It‘s the same folks at Dell that developed 27“ 4k displays, god knows what we‘re supposed to do with such devices. Use a magnifying glass?
Just not for me.

The 1440p HiDPI resolution of the 5K 27" display is simply too cramped for my usage and just feels tiny compared to the Dell UP3218K.

I can't think of a single use case where I would want less pixels.
 

mpta3d

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What about this backlight bleed? Don’t you guys think it should be gone on 5k $ screen? Or maybe this technology needs to have it? I know CG Eizo screens without this issue.
 
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OkiRun

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View attachment 890408 What about this backlight bleed? Don’t you guys think it should be gone on 5k $ screen? Or maybe this technology needs to have it? I know CG Eizo screens without this issue.
I've seen the XDR at an Apple Store and it did not have backlight bleed. All lights in my studio have dimmers so that an editor can easily reduce the brightness in a room if necessary. It's a cheap fix for glare. One bulb is low watt red - as one editor prefers that. Before you buy an XDR glossy - check out all light sources in the immediate environment before you buy. If you have a spotlight directly in front of the XDR location - think twice about spending 5K.
 

mpta3d

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I've seen the XDR at an Apple Store and it did not have backlight bleed. All lights in my studio have dimmers so that an editor can easily reduce the brightness in a room if necessary.

Oh I see I see. Thanks!
 
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chfilm

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That's his DELL screen, NOT the ProDisplay XDR.
Exactly. I also noticed the background bleed for the first time when I took this pic but I agree, it’s pretty insane, so I think the XDR will be a nice upgrade.
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The 1440p HiDPI resolution of the 5K 27" display is simply too cramped for my usage and just feels tiny compared to the Dell UP3218K.

I can't think of a single use case where I would want less pixels.
That’s why I want the XDR ?
 
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OkiRun

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Exactly. I also noticed the background bleed for the first time when I took this pic but I agree, it’s pretty insane, so I think the XDR will be a nice upgrade.
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That’s why I want the XDR ?
Mine will be on my desk within the next 12 hours. :cool:
 
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