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That was the point I was bringing to the discussion and what I've seen doing some research. The color tint doesn't seem to be an Apple specific issue, but more of a panel manufacturing quirk. In my post above I also referenced a Samsung LCD ALSO having a warmer tint compared to other display i've compared. So it seems like a Samsung thing.

For quite a few years I tried to avoid Samsung products because of the low quality problems I had with a couple displays quite a few years back. Recent Samsung products i've tried haven't been so bad though. FYI, I have an LG LCD TV, and when I first calibrated it to the Cinema settings I had to get used to it's warmer look as well. It seems like each display just has it's own look and feel and as many others have already stated in quite a few places. It's pretty much a waste of time to compare and expect things to be EXACTLY the same. Maybe at some point, Apple will make their own displays again, and be completely in house. Seems like they are going that way for every other major component.
When did Apple make their own display? Just curious.
 
Do you have any proof or justification how it's a hardware issue?

It's the way the screens are calibrated on these models. The only solution is if Apple changes their calibration for devices going forward, but thats not going to fix current models.... they can't do it via software update because there's no way to tailor the software to each individual device.
 
Mine is a gold 128 GB pro max, and it's the same as your good screens warm but uniform and looks more white the brighter the screen is. True tone also works well in brighter conditions while low lighting, or warm lighting increases the overall warmness of the screen similar to night shift. As I've mentioned a few times on different threads. I find having True tone on while either in sunlight, or daylight, or cool white lighting reduces the warm appearance of the screen as well. My thoughts are for me, the screen is fine while the true tone sensor may be a bit off, or Apple intentionally made true tone warmer on the 12 models. One thing I've noticed is as I've used the screen more, especially in brighter conditions the warmer look has balanced out. Also a note to add, I got my phone from Best Buy, and not apple, or carrier store. Not sure if that makes a difference either, but thought I'd mention it.
Mine also is gold 128 gb pro max from T-Mobile launch day, and no issues. Just a bit warmer than my old 6s plus, but i have no raised black or green screen at all.
 
Unless there is an objective measure by which you can say the screens are "too warm" what if the past screens are "too cool" ?

What if your eyes are not the eyes of someone else?
 
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Mine also is gold 128 gb pro max from T-Mobile launch day, and no issues. Just a bit warmer than my old 6s plus, but i have no raised black or green screen at all.
I've been doing so more testing with True Tone on, and I find the warmest display is at home. When outside, or in a well lit store (such as Walmart), or other bright environment, the screen is a nice color that matches the lighting. So things have panned out well here.

Also, did my first Apple Pay transaction with the new phone from Aldi today, and it works great.
 
I've been doing so more testing with True Tone on, and I find the warmest display is at home. When outside, or in a well lit store (such as Walmart), or other bright environment, the screen is a nice color that matches the lighting. So things have panned out well here.

Also, did my first Apple Pay transaction with the new phone from Aldi today, and it works great.
Warmer display, warmer True Tone. And warmest True Tone colors at home under lower lighting.
 
Unless there is an objective measure by which you can say the screens are "too warm" what if the past screens are "too cool" ?

What if your eyes are not the eyes of someone else?
Compared mine before returning it to a 2019 iMac and 2019 MacBook Pro. It was much warmer. My OnePlus 5T on the other hand is ever so slightly warmer that it never bothered me.
 
Between the yellow tinge, other display issues (raised blacks, flickering etc), the battery draining overnight for some, 5G being very bad in terms of battery life etc, I think there are enough reasons to conclude this phone has been a mini disaster until now. Perhaps those who don’t need a phone now should indeed wait for next year’s phone, which will have small improvements (at least the non pro version, but many fixes, including a bigger battery.
 
Usually, I only read in this forum, but this matter made me create an account to share my experiences with the iPhone 12 Lineup.

I got a 12 Pro Max at launch day, used it for about a week, and always thought "there is not this "wow-effect" I had with my 11 Pro Max (I loved it, but I lost it), something is off". The screen of my old 11 Pro Max was perfect and I enjoyed using this phone. Then I figured out why: The dark greys in the dark mode of my reddit-app where a little bit off (kind of greenish) and when I used the phone next to my Monitor, the whites seemed yellow and the screen overall dull. So I ordered another 12 Pro Max and compared the 2 Screens: The new one was a little bit better (sharper, greys not greenish and not so washed out). But it has the same yellow screen as the old one.

I compared to the 12 Mini of a friend, the 12 Pro of another friend and went to 3 different electronic stores, where iPhones are on display. Result: It's the exact same yellow on all iPhones 12s. (Some were a little bit whiter though, but not much).

I also compared to my calibrated Monitor, Macbook, iPad Pro, iPhone XR, iPhone X, Nexus 6P and my ancient 6Plus. All of this Phones have kind of different whites, some are a little bit warmer (iPhone X the warmest) but all are WAY better than the Screen of the 12 Pro Max.

This is a fact, and don't let People in this Forum or elsewhere tell you otherwise. Of course you can get used to it, if you use it for a longer time, but this doesn't change the fact that this screens are the worst I have seen on any Apple Device.

People in this forum are often saying that the screens are "too warm", but in my opinion, this is not the case. They have a YELLOW tint. On the iPhone X of my GF, I can turn True Tone and Night Mode on and it will get very warm, but NOT Yellow. 12 Pro Max on the other side, has a yellow tint.

But that isn't even my biggest concern with this phone, maybe I could get used to the yellow over time... The biggest Problem (in my opinion) is the DULL Screen. Especially at lower brightness the screen has bad contrast and seems very dull. If you go to the HUE-Settings of the iPhone (of course I also tried that) it even gets worse. I compared the same Picture of a Face on the 12PM and the X, and it seems that also details get lost on the 12 PM, it looks more "washed out".

Don't understand me wrong, I am a big Apple fan and I love the look and feeling of this phone, but this screen is (in my opinion) not acceptable (at least at this price point!!) and a big disappointment. I will also return the second one and maybe give it a try in spring or wait for the 13.
 
I've been doing so more testing with True Tone on, and I find the warmest display is at home. When outside, or in a well lit store (such as Walmart), or other bright environment, the screen is a nice color that matches the lighting. So things have panned out well here.

Also, did my first Apple Pay transaction with the new phone from Aldi today, and it works great.
It sounds like we have exact same screens. Mine is just like that too.
 
Unless there is an objective measure by which you can say the screens are "too warm" what if the past screens are "too cool" ?

What if your eyes are not the eyes of someone else?
I would say the ipx is on the cool side. For me, I prefer cool vs warm if not perfectly balanced. The overly yellow or warm makes it dull.
 
Since I have the 12PM I am just going to wait until as close to Jan 8th as I can and do a return. I'll buy one more and if the screen is the same I guess I'll just deal with it until the next phone comes out. I am not really interested in doing multiple returns to play the screen lottery.
 
Guys! Keep continue to use your iPhone the yellow screen will go away with time. Keep using your phone in a well lighted area.
I like the optimistic attitude, sometimes I even convince myself just to feel better. But sorry, what you say is.. hmm.. please think about it again.
 
Since I've already determined that my phone is working properly, and the display as it it should be. I've pretty much gone the opposite of many here when comparing the phone to older displays in different lighting and didn't realize how bad the older cooler displays looked in comparison. When I say "bad" they aren't terrible, but with the cooler displays skin tones and other video aspects look off compared to the warmer display. I've been watching YouTube videos I'm familiar with on the iPad, then the iPhone, and the iMac. The iMac and iPhone screens though different display technology both look better than the iPad Air 2.

I never had a reason to compare before. So, some good came out of people complaining after all.
 
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Compared mine before returning it to a 2019 iMac and 2019 MacBook Pro. It was much warmer. My OnePlus 5T on the other hand is ever so slightly warmer that it never bothered me.
Yes but those displays aren’t perfect either. Your opinion they are. I’m asking if there is an absolute measure that you can compare to? In music A 440hz is the tuning standard. Is there a display standard that’s different than “ my nexus 5 looked better” ?
 
Yes but those displays aren’t perfect either. Your opinion they are. I’m asking if there is an absolute measure that you can compare to? In music A 440hz is the tuning standard. Is there a display standard that’s different than “ my nexus 5 looked better” ?
Yes, D65. I read some posts of people with calibrated monitors saying that their 12s color temp is warmer than 6500k which is off. On the other side, display mate... i dont know what to believe, but i also noticed my returned pro max´s are much warmer than my supposedly 6500k factory calibrated Cintiq.
 
Yes but those displays aren’t perfect either. Your opinion they are. I’m asking if there is an absolute measure that you can compare to? In music A 440hz is the tuning standard. Is there a display standard that’s different than “ my nexus 5 looked better” ?
They're not perfect but they're better than a lot of things out there. I didn't mention that I also had an iPhone 11 and iPad Pro that had very similar white points to my iMac and MBP. That's 4 devices from Apple that have comparable calibration. The iPhone 12 Pro stood out as being yellowish.
 
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