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That's more or less typical apple behavior.

And: how shall they re-calibrate all the different screens with a software update? The screen doesn't have calibration hardware included. It cannot calibrate itself.

They have to accept that as a defect and replace or repair those units with wrong screen color. But you know.. that cuts into profits.
They'll just cite "wide tolerances" ... nothing will be done unless a class action it's brought against them (years), and even then it would likely only benefit customers in the USA.
 
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I don't think apple would do this, they make 80% of their revenue from iPhone sales and why would they make people hate it, they will lose trillions.
They don't look around the internet. "the people" love it. 99% of people either don't notice or don't care. If 1% of people are mad because they get a yellow screen that this is not significant enough to increase quality control.
 
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iOS should have a setting like TVs, etc. Not like actual color temp numbers; just a couple ticks to the left and right of the default.
 
Sadly, the iPhone 12 I received today does not have a good display.

I‘m coming from the XR. After I got the 12 set up, I erased the XR and turned it off. I had read about screen issues, but I wasn’t going to look for them.

So I just started using the phone. The first thing I noticed were the color shifts at different viewing angles. Straight on it’s a little warm but when rotated sideways it goes from yellow to blue to yellow again before it’s rotated fully. I just tried to ignore it.

I continued using the phone and anywhere there was black text on a white background, the words looked slightly gray. This is what truly started to bother me. That along with the fact that the screen just wasn’t looking as great as I had expected with OLED. Never had an OLED phone before.

So… I finally broke out the old XR.

Long story short, the 12 screen is yellow compared to the XR. This actually doesn’t bother as much as the fact that the 12 screen is dull and the contrast is just not there. This was apparent before I compared the two phones side by side.

Just to be clear, all the usual suspects were turned off. No true tone, night shift, or any weird accessibility stuff.

I just want the full experience. That’s all. Just want to enjoy what this phone is supposed to be.
 
Sadly, the iPhone 12 I received today does not have a good display.

I‘m coming from the XR. After I got the 12 set up, I erased the XR and turned it off. I had read about screen issues, but I wasn’t going to look for them.

So I just started using the phone. The first thing I noticed were the color shifts at different viewing angles. Straight on it’s a little warm but when rotated sideways it goes from yellow to blue to yellow again before it’s rotated fully. I just tried to ignore it.

I continued using the phone and anywhere there was black text on a white background, the words looked slightly gray. This is what truly started to bother me. That along with the fact that the screen just wasn’t looking as great as I had expected with OLED. Never had an OLED phone before.

So… I finally broke out the old XR.

Long story short, the 12 screen is yellow compared to the XR. This actually doesn’t bother as much as the fact that the 12 screen is dull and the contrast is just not there. This was apparent before I compared the two phones side by side.

Just to be clear, all the usual suspects were turned off. No true tone, night shift, or any weird accessibility stuff.

I just want the full experience. That’s all. Just want to enjoy what this phone is supposed to be.
I now want to check if it looks gray to me and how did you tell?
 
I wonder if iOS 15.0 fixes the yellow tint?
Yellow tint have no fix and is not expected at all.
Is how apple calibrated screens this year. Good or bad, but is howit is. Some experts say it’s close to d65. I honestly don’t know.
The fact is that is much yellow than other years and Apple devices. But will not be fixed so do not expect it.
 
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Well. My device definitely is D65 (checked with colorimeter). But I can't speak for every device. Some are probably just really yellow.
Apple's devices are never really "calibrated" from factory. Not even the MacBook screens are. They're way off.
The Xs is actually too bluish (at least my one after 2 years of usage).

I guess the tolerance is just through the roof this year to push more sales even though there is a shortage. Apple should allow us to load a custom ICC profile and we could fix that on our own (apparently Apple doesn't want to fix it).
But... we can only return it or accept it.
 
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Well. My device definitely is D65 (checked with colorimeter). But I can't speak for every device. Some are probably just really yellow.
Apple's devices are never really "calibrated" from factory. Not even the MacBook screens are. They're way off.
The Xs is actually too bluish (at least my one after 2 years of usage).

I guess the tolerance is just through the roof this year to push more sales even though there is a shortage. Apple should allow us to load a custom ICC profile and we could fix that on our own (apparently Apple doesn't want to fix it).
But... we can only return it or accept it.
can you send a picture of your color balance compared to another phone?
 
Yellow tint have no fix and is not expected at all.
Is how apple calibrated screens this year. Good or bad, but is howit is. Some experts say it’s close to d65. I honestly don’t know.
The fact is that is much yellow than other years and Apple devices. But will not be fixed so do not expect it.
Hoping that’s not the case with 2021 iPhones
 
Well. My device definitely is D65 (checked with colorimeter). But I can't speak for every device. Some are probably just really yellow.
Apple's devices are never really "calibrated" from factory. Not even the MacBook screens are. They're way off.
The Xs is actually too bluish (at least my one after 2 years of usage).

I guess the tolerance is just through the roof this year to push more sales even though there is a shortage. Apple should allow us to load a custom ICC profile and we could fix that on our own (apparently Apple doesn't want to fix it).
But... we can only return it or accept it.
You can’t keep returning it… eventually ends up getting black listed 😆
 
Sure. Here you go. The camera was set to 6500k White balance. Daylight here. No artificial light. All on their max. brightness.

The Samsung can actually be calibrated and has different color profiles (like a TV). I set it to the default mode for this test.

True tone is off on all screens.

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Is it warmer than the xr?
Actually not. The XR is slightly more greenish, the 12 slightly more red-ish.

There are two possible shifts: Blue-yellow, and green-magenta. Blue-yellow is correct on both. The Xr has slightly too much green, the 12 Pro slightly too much magenta.
 
No.. I meant a general color shift. I measured them all with a colorimeter for verification. The Xr is slightly too blueish and too greenish. The 12 Pro is good in blue-yellow, but slightly too much magenta. The S7E is completely off and the 6s has a bit too much yellow (it's old and maybe the glue turned yellow already due to excessive heat).
 
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I think some of the people with the yellow tint think it's more yellow than it is because once you hear something you tend to focus on it more.
 
I think some of the people with the yellow tint think it's more yellow than it is because once you hear something you tend to focus on it more.
That and also true tone on the 12 is more.. yellow (and enabled by default). Without True Tone it's not that of an issue (again: on my device).
 
Me to, it looks like piss with true tone on but without it it's probably near 6500k or 6450k not a big deal. The biggest problem with my 12 is that Bluetooth just doesn't work anymore after 14.5
 
I think some of the people with the yellow tint think it's more yellow than it is because once you hear something you tend to focus on it more.
If your phone is what you use daily as your primary device you'll probably not notice or "get used to it".

If you are working with color on multiple screens daily, you'll notice (a good IP12) is warmer than your usual phone, if you get a piss yellow screen 99% of people will probably not care as they have TT or NS turned on anyhow. But it will really grate on your nerves if you know what color "should" look like.

Spotify Premium sounds great to anyone who's used to listening to the free version. That doesn't mean it sounds great.
 
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I now want to check if it looks gray to me and how did you tell?

The text just didn’t seem to be a rich, dark black like I thought it would be because it’s OLED. At first, I looked at it side by side with my iPad 8 (the cheap one) and then my XR. The text was more black on those two devices than the 12.
 
That and also true tone on the 12 is more.. yellow (and enabled by default). Without True Tone it's not that of an issue (again: on my device).
If your device is d65 calibrated, then is yellow. Like every single 12 series. We are used to bluish screens. Warm2 to setting in tvs is close to 6500k and is yellow.
 
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