Yosemite Public Beta 2

[dsemf]

It must be quite a challenge to be an Apple developer. Here we are, all supposedly running PB2 or DP6, and there is such a wide experience level.

There are people who have problems with crashes in Finder, Preview, Safari and general system lockups, while others do not have these issues.

I appear to be one of the lucky ones. I ran PB1 for 4 weeks and upgraded to PB2 yesterday. Everything has been stable. There have been some minor bugs, but nothing crashes. I have not had any problems with Safari in either Mavericks or Yosemite.

Parallels stopped working with PB2, but that did not surprise me; they want people to upgrade. Carbon Copy Cloner has stated they will not release a compatible version until final release of Yosemite.

Just another view of the world.

DS

 

[nikicampos]

Yes there is.

So do you think when DP7 is released that it will show up in the mac app store as an "update" to PB2 the same way as for DP6?

I bet it won't!

I am rather bemused by people talking about DP5 and DP6 as an "update" to PB1. They are NOT updates to PB1. And DP7 will NOT be an "update" to PB2.

Those "updating" PB2 to DP7 will be misusing these builds and apple will not act on any bug reports sent from such installations because such a "bug" may well have been caused by such mixing of public betas and developer previews.

Developers can run the public betas and developer previews on completely separate installations, such as on 2 different partitions or virtual machines if they want to. But they should only be updated with correct updates pertaining to the program from whence they came.

So no.

PB2 is NOT the same as DP6.

Yes they are, not identical, but at least 99%, the fact that you are saying all of this things makes me wonder if you know anything about betas or just trying to feel superior making this nonsense points.

The build numbers are almost identical (PB 14A329r // DP 14A329f) except for one letter, so yeah, in my book you can say they are basically the same.

And yes, people shouldn't be mixing PB and DP, if you are on one, just stick to it.

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It must be quite a challenge to be an Apple developer. Here we are, all supposedly running PB2 or DP6, and there is such a wide experience level.

There are people who have problems with crashes in Finder, Preview, Safari and general system lockups, while others do not have these issues.

I appear to be one of the lucky ones. I ran PB1 for 4 weeks and upgraded to PB2 yesterday. Everything has been stable. There have been some minor bugs, but nothing crashes. I have not had any problems with Safari in either Mavericks or Yosemite.

Parallels stopped working with PB2, but that did not surprise me; they want people to upgrade. Carbon Copy Cloner has stated they will not release a compatible version until final release of Yosemite.

Just another view of the world.

DS

Well yeah, it's a challenge to develop an OS, but not for the reasons you are mentioning, the more people use the software the better, the more people send bug reports the better, don't matter what beta build testers are using, they can tell, that way they can replicate the bug and fix it.

 

[tywebb13]

Another major difference between PB2 and DP6 is that there is a full installer for PB2, but not for DP6.

Hence you can make a bootable usb installer for PB2, but not for DP6.

You can use instructions here for PB2 if you want: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1757723/

No need to change the code yet but we probably will have to for the golden master later.

 

[meme1255]

PD 9 works for me :O

 

[perquesta]

Calendar now prints correctly

In PB1 when attempting to print from Calendar the output was empty. In PB2 it prints correctly.

 

[leo.andres.21]

Well, I just freshly installed PB2 on to a different partition. Gave it a quick run through. The OS is very much usable and stable. Aside from the occasional graphic glitches in my first boot, I would run it as a main machine, however...

of course there are still problems that prevents me from going there. Firstly, my battery life on Yosemite is dismal. At 95%, it says I have 2 hours left, and very much like it says, it took me an hour and it was already 60%. With iTunes, Spotify, Mailbox Beta and Safari opened, often not all at the same time. Never even installed flash or java other than what already came with the fresh OS. Secondly, I feel like the sound output is a bit weird, I don't know if it is just problems the source (i.e. the streamed music), but it was noticeably bad, I will do my own comparison later on. Third, my laptop ran hotter than usual, and that is of course, a minor, but there is a difference and it can get uncomfortable.

Other than these obvious complaints for a beta (poor optimisation and such), PB2 is a massive improvements over DP2 (the last version I used before reverting back to 10.9.4). Very close to a release candidate/golden master if you ask me. Sort out the heat and battery life and you have me on board. As well as compatibility with all apps of course.

 

[YosemiteFail]

I've had some problems with DP2. Basically, the install failed and the computer automatically launches the OS X Utilities window, which has four options: recovering from Time Machine, redownloading OS X, connecting to the internet or using Disk Recovery.

The problem is, Time Machine doesn't back up because it cannot seem to find my system HD and the computer doesn't connect to the internet so I can't reinstall OS X.

The installation was on an old MBP, so it's no great loss, but it would be nice to have it back so I would be grateful for your advice.

 

[ms.annette]

I wonder if this is now safer to install on my main mac. I currently have yosemite on an external hard dive.

 

[themuseboy]

iPhoto crashes more in PB2

When working in face recognition in iPhoto it seems to bog down, then after going through 5 - 10 people it crashes iPhoto and I lose the updates I just made.

I'm sure it will be corrected before gold is out.

 

[randy3k]

Does anyone how to get back the non translucent menu bar while keeping translucent windows?

The option "Translucent menu bar" has been removed from Desktop & Screen Saver. And the menu is now very translucent and hard to read. I know that in accessibility, there is an option "Reduce transparency". But that is not what I want. I want some transparency but not for the menus.

Thanks.

 

[ABC5S]

I wonder if this is now safer to install on my main mac. I currently have yosemite on an external hard dive.

Same here but after reading many pro's over negatives, I upgraded my main system, tested out the cold boot time (12 seconds boot up and/shut down 4 seconds), Safari, Programs I use and very happy with the build. Late next month I hope to see the final and will do a clean install.

 

[crashoverride77]

Public Beta 2 = Developer Preview 6

There is no difference.

What I find incredible, is that Apple STILL haven't fixed the Safari crash problem that they introduced in Safari 7.0.6 where 'Safari Web Content quit unexpectedly'

This problem has been ongoing since Mavericks 10.9.4 and is still present, as I type this, in 10.10 build 14A329f AKA DP6.

EVER SINCE Safari update 7.0.6, I have been getting errors that specifically name 'Safari Web Content'....

...I have to be honest, unless whatever-problem-this-is, is fixed when 10.10 is finally released, I will be advising ALL of my mac using friends, clients and associates, to stay the hell away from Apple, for the foreseeable future, because if they can't even fix a problem with a single application that they provide, how can they be trusted with an entire OS?

I have been an Apple enthusiast since the early 80s...I still have an Apple II - One of the machines that had all of Apple's senior staff signatures on the inside of the chassis, and I have bought EVERY model of Apple since then.

But, now? Now, I'm actually doubting buying an Apple...

...All because they can't even maintain a web browser properly - I shouldn't HAVE to use Firefox on my nMP or my rMB!!!

Since the combination of 10.9.4 and Safari 7.0.6, my macs have become a game show, with the user guessing which will crash and reboot first!

wow you need a soap opera, and they shall call it drama queen.

 

[Tubamajuba]

Public Beta 2 = Developer Preview 6

There is no difference.

What I find incredible, is that Apple STILL haven't fixed the Safari crash problem that they introduced in Safari 7.0.6 where 'Safari Web Content quit unexpectedly'

This problem has been ongoing since Mavericks 10.9.4 and is still present, as I type this, in 10.10 build 14A329f AKA DP6.

EVER SINCE Safari update 7.0.6, I have been getting errors that specifically name 'Safari Web Content'....

...I have to be honest, unless whatever-problem-this-is, is fixed when 10.10 is finally released, I will be advising ALL of my mac using friends, clients and associates, to stay the hell away from Apple, for the foreseeable future, because if they can't even fix a problem with a single application that they provide, how can they be trusted with an entire OS?

I have been an Apple enthusiast since the early 80s...I still have an Apple II - One of the machines that had all of Apple's senior staff signatures on the inside of the chassis, and I have bought EVERY model of Apple since then.

But, now? Now, I'm actually doubting buying an Apple...

...All because they can't even maintain a web browser properly - I shouldn't HAVE to use Firefox on my nMP or my rMB!!!

Since the combination of 10.9.4 and Safari 7.0.6, my macs have become a game show, with the user guessing which will crash and reboot first!

It's literally been ten days since 7.0.6 came out, and two days since Yosemite Public Beta 2 came out. Do you really expect them to have found and fixed a bug that probably doesn't even affect a majority of people in eight days at most? Safari isn't crashing for me at all, in any case.

Your attitude towards this is similar to ripping your arm off because you got a small paper cut. Selling your car because a bird pooped on it. Buying a new house because your carpet is dirty. Etc...

Chill out... it's one bug. All software has bugs. When they get fixed, new ones tend to pop up. And don't try to claim that Apple hasn't had bug issues prior to this over the last thirty years...

 

[tywebb13]

Although I still stand by my assertion that PB2 is not the same as DP6, there is still the issue of the golden master. If public beta testers are going to get a golden master then I would want that one to indeed be exactly the same as the one developers get.

 

[Crazy Badger]

Well, for me PB2 seems like a step back #

None of my PB1 issues are resolved (Aperture and iCloud, Back to my Mac) and it's broken some other stuff (VM Fusion, TotalFinder) that was working in PB1

Hope this isn't released for a good few months.

 

[DSeeker]

Public Beta 2 = Developer Preview 6

I have been an Apple enthusiast since the early 80s...I still have an Apple II - One of the machines that had all of Apple's senior staff signatures on the inside of the chassis, and I have bought EVERY model of Apple since then.

Wow, you must have spent a fortune. That would make you the only person I've heard claim to have owned a Pippin. And a Lisa back in 1983 - I'm impressed. They cost $10K back then and that's almost $24,000 in today's money. And then you turned around the next year and bought a Lisa II. And to top it off you went ahead the next year and bought a Macintosh XL. EVERY model? Very impressive. Or something.

 

[lexR]

PB2 installed and i mirror the comments of others really, PB1 was ok, few bugs reported but no so far in PB2 but its only been a sort while, i like that they have made the dark mode slightly crisper and new icons for SSD+HDD plus a few other 'touchups'. looking forward to the iOS 8 release so i can properly test the handoff and continuity.

looking forward also to nvidia releasing there web drivers for Yosemite.

 

[elgrecomac]

Impressive

After using the first public beta infrequently due to stability and compatibility issues plus it just didn't seem very 'snappy', well, the 2nd beta is much improved. No quite ready for prime time, but, I am tempted to use it on my stable/main drive running 10.9.4 but my VPN client PIA hasn't released a 10.10 compatible version yet.

And to editorialize a bit, I'm not in love with the UI changes that come with 10.10...which makes sense since I still don't like ios 7.1.X so, if nothing else, I'm consistent.


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2014 13" retina MBP with 16 GB RAM, 256 SSD and a 30" Apple Cinema display, Belkin Thurderbolt hub; iphone 5 (jailbroken, of course); iPad 2

 

[tripmusic]

500GB down, 1 GB to go. Ugh.
I hope this fixes the lagging Restart and Shutdown commands. Takes almost 10 seconds sometimes. I LOVE dark mode in Yosemite. Sexy

 

[tripmusic]

I reported a potential Finder bug to Apple from the first Beta. In a Finder window when you Control+Click on the toolbar to customize to show text only, when you click on some of the buttons/text i.e. "New Folder", it changes all the text buttons back to icons. Anyone else notice this? Is this normal?

 

[pdaholic]

I've got PB2 running on my 4 month old rMBP and it seems pretty solid. 2 apps not working, Token Lock and xtrafinder. Given that I don't have iOS8, I'm not sure it's worth upgrading to Yosemite yet as the visual "enhancements" aren't really worth breaking a few apps that aren't upgraded yet. I'm sticking with it, but so far pretty underwhelming (until iOS8 arrives!).

Correction: xtrafinder was literally just updated, and it works perfectly. That developer is awesome.

 

[Dilster3k]

The first one was stable, this one too. Very snappy, very happy.

 

[wallmon]

had some problems with PB1 but it's all good with PB2. Feels more like the real deal. Much faster and NO Safari issues.

 

[dictoresno]

my app store seems to be freezing up on updates. it sees app updates (keynote, pages and numbers) but its stuck on "waiting" and the pause button is greyed out. the download never commences. anyone else having this issue?

 

[tripmusic]

Yosemite PB2 is buggy for me. Slower/glitchy boot, Safari, can't empty trash. And some of my internal temps seem a little up compared to PB1. I'll have to keep an eye on it.