I just noticed people are selling AVPs on ebay for $3,650 all the way up to $7,300. Target buyer must be people outside the US.
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You Can Use These Bluetooth Accessories With Apple Vision Pro
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What if your using your MacBook with a mouse and using the VP to extend your screen, will that work. I really want to use a mouse.
“The Vision Pro is not compatible with older Apple keyboards that use removable batteries.”
Wouldn’t want anyone using a device with great longevity that can easily have its batteries replaced now would we?
Wouldn’t want anyone using a device with great longevity that can easily have its batteries replaced now would we?
So, Bluetooth keyboard and controllers work, but not Bluetooth mice/trackpads. Hmm.
Not really new, Jobs didn't allow them to put arrow keys on the original Mac's keyboard because he wanted to force users to use the mouse.
Forcing is deeply ingrained in the DNA of the ecosystem’s management of user behavior.
It’s very effected for producing desirable results that secure compliance in the ecosystem.
On the surface it’s very efficient and seemingly benevolent.
Brilliant, really.
Bring out your e-waste! The furnaces demand more e-waste!
It seems only one 4K screen can be virtualized with AVP, other (compatible!) apps can appear as separate windows. That won't work for me I'm afraid. I'm interested in the AVP but only if I can get at least 2 separate virtual 4K displays. The floating apps seem like a gimmick to me and a gamble: what's the chance my current and future favourite apps will support to be floated within AVP? I am looking for some extensive portable display solution, the AVP is promising on that matter but I might need to wait for AVP 2 at least. I use my MBP mainly for development and for IT/DPO management. Not for entertainment, nor gaming.your Mac must have macOS 14 Sonoma or later.
f you have a Mac with Apple silicon, it can appear in Apple Vision Pro at resolutions up to 4K. If your Mac has an Intel processor, it can appear at resolutions up to 3K.
Use your Mac with Apple Vision Pro - Apple Support
Learn how to use Apple Vision Pro as a private, portable 4K display for your Mac with Mac Virtual Display.support.apple.com
All Made for iPhone Bluetooth controllers can connect to the Vision Pro, including Xbox and PlayStation controllers. Apple says that any controller that works with iPadOS will work with Vision Pro.
Are you saying this statement is incorrect?
I'm just saying..
like many on this forum, I know lots of apple fans with lots and lots of apple devices from phones, to watches, to ipads, to macbooks and airpods and speakers.. None and I do mean none, have any desire to buy one of these..
I'm sure the apple stores will be packed with people who want to see this, touch it, take selfies, maybe even book an appointment for a demo, but what % of those will actually slide their card and actually walk out with one?
Apples main strategy is to hook them in the ecosystem while their young, and in most cases, the young can't afford this item..
I do hope they learn from its pros and cons and make one more cost friendly in a few years to make it more appealing..
The problem is that those keyboards came out 20 years ago and use Bluetooth 2.0. The Magic Keyboard, which uses BT3.0, is supported so that seems to be the cutoff point. Since we are now at BT5, there are enough differences that I can see why BT2 might not have what it takes.
Which is the e-waste? The 20 year old keyboard or all of the disposbile batteries it has gone through?
Apple did the right thing not making native controllers for the headset. That's what sets them apart from the others. Being able to use your eyes/hands is a huge deal. That said, the VP still has a lot of room for improvement so hand/eye control will only get better with future hardware/software updates.
I've owned many headsets and I hate native controllers. The future of headsets needs to be based on eye/hand/voice controls.
I've owned many headsets and I hate native controllers. The future of headsets needs to be based on eye/hand/voice controls.
After spending time with the AVP it’s beyond obvious this device is meant for more than just gaming. If you want an eye-console, get the quest. This thing is a computer.
Fruit ninja and synthriders which look amazing but the controls are not tight like on quest at all
If Mac requires keyboard and mouse, AR/VR requires a hardware controller just like Xbox and PS with console controllers. Beside, eye tracking and gesture aren't great in terms of long period of uses and easy to get tired.
the idea of using a future version of this with a blue tooth mechanical keyboard to get work done? Kind of love it. I have no interest in this thing for at least two or three versions, but that's totally cool. This really is a preview of what's to come, and I appreciate all those who bought it while they get "good". Same way I felt waiting till the apple watch dropped their first SE version.