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You don't care about our privacy
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Macrumors is banned from my mac now........
Only viewing on iPad (which still has the popup) until this annoyance is fixed.
Sorry for the issue. Trying to track this down. I've been living on a German VPN the past few days but I haven't been able to reproduce it. From a browser that you are seeing the issue (Repeated pop ups, despite cookies enabled). Can you visit: https://www.macrumors.com/test/cookie.php
Take a screenshot and send it to me at arn@normalkid.com
Don't post it here.
Also, let me know what country you are in.
thanks
arn
So the answer to someone asking for more privacy is well that doesn't matter, delete your account. No. Instead how about we start a discourse and let the admins know that many of us are not happy with how they track and use our data to sell us advertisements. The answer is not give up your privacy or delete your account as the issue is not black and white.
This is reductive. You can both care about what social media sites do with your data AND how MR uses it. This is an issue of public visibility and just because MR is not as visible as FB, doesn't mean we shouldn't care what they do with our data any less.
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True
Still, GDPR is one big PITA for many professionals and SMBs ...
and let's be honest: who really reads google's latest privacy policy when it pops up .. in that case you really do not have a choice. or you agree to it or you cannot use their services
the same is true for apple btw.
to be on the safe side completely you would need to kiss the whole internet goodbye
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Europe here.
I've had the pop up show up only once on each device (cookies enabled)
Hope that helps
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One can become a premier member and not receive advertisements. Don't know if that stops MR through the infrastructure from "tracking" a person. Not sure what MR would do for sustainability if there were no income generating mechanisms.
That doesn't mean I'm okay with this, as the tin foil hat side of me, says my ip address (even though it does change occasionally) can be used against me in the aggregate from the internet.
Much like when the GDPR regulations went into force, MacRumors.com is repeatedly showing me the 'Purposes' panel to which I repeatedly make my selections and click 'save and exit'. Yet it keeps on returning.
This is the only site where I have had this problem. Clearly something isn't quite right and needs fixing.
This is the only site where I have had this problem. Clearly something isn't quite right and needs fixing.
Sorry.
Can you email me this https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/you-dont-care-about-our-privacy.2168440/page-2#post-27078889
And while you are at it, tell me what browser u are using and what country you are from?
thanks
arn
I've made some changes to the GDPR popup code. Hoping it helps. Let me know if you see it multiple times again.
arn
arn
For me the popup appears every time on every page reload. Really annoying and makes MacRumors unusable.
I do block and delete some cookies using Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin. If I turn them off, the popups stop.
However, it saves my choice to Reject everything. So, after rejecting once, I just imported a blocklist for uBlock I found on Reddit, et voilà, no more annoying popups.
P.S.: If you'd really value our privacy, you'd be using a Consent Manager that would show the "Reject" button right next to the "Accept" button. Luckily this practice is probably illegal and the EU will soon start to cut down on this.
P.P.S.: Enabling cookies to makes this thing work seems rather sketchy.
I do block and delete some cookies using Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin. If I turn them off, the popups stop.
However, it saves my choice to Reject everything. So, after rejecting once, I just imported a blocklist for uBlock I found on Reddit, et voilà, no more annoying popups.
P.S.: If you'd really value our privacy, you'd be using a Consent Manager that would show the "Reject" button right next to the "Accept" button. Luckily this practice is probably illegal and the EU will soon start to cut down on this.
P.P.S.: Enabling cookies to makes this thing work seems rather sketchy.
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There isn’t anything that can be done on our side if you don’t allow cookies. Otherwise how can we know if you have seen or saved the pop up before? Don’t you have to log in each time as well?
arn
Nope. I don't delete all cookies by default. I got uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger blocking some of the cookies deemed unnecessary.
As said; It does in fact remember my "Reject All" choices, why not that I've seen the popup?
P.S.: I just did a few more tests. I searched for a few other websites using Quantcast (just google Quantcast), and I found that on some of them I'm not running into the same issue, but on others (like the website of Quantcast) I do...
P.P.S.: By the way... thanks for taking this serious and trying to help sort this out.
Ok, I found that if I unblock all cookies from "api.quantcast.mgr.consensu.org" in Privacy Badger, the popup doesn't appear anymore.
Still worries me though that Quantcast is labeled as a potential tracker in Privacy Badger's database:
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger/faq#What-is-a-third-party-tracker
Still worries me though that Quantcast is labeled as a potential tracker in Privacy Badger's database:
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger/faq#What-is-a-third-party-tracker
Hmm. ya. It's weird, b/c I've tested it by deleting that cookie and it seemed ok. I think the other thing we can do is probably make a conditional so if you are logged in, the pop up doesn't get a chance to trigger.
I run with pihole, 3rd party cookies blocked, AND the i dont care about cookies extension, that makes those godawfull "warnings" go away.
I use firefox on every platform. But it should work for just about every browser other then safari.
I use firefox on every platform. But it should work for just about every browser other then safari.
People are misinformed about what the GDPR requires of data controllers and to an extent what rights people have. MacRumors is entitled to use personal information for any essential purpose without requiring you to opt-in as long as they disclose the purpose and use of such information.
However, some activities (such as tracking users across different websites, or targeting ads based on users' interests) requires informed consent. This means data controllers must be able to clearly demonstrate that a user knowingly gave consent to such activity. This is why pre-selecting checkboxes to get permission to use personal information for marketing or analytics purposes is unlawful.
Unfortunately, a lot of websites assume by adding a cookie notice and getting users to press a button to accept the defaults, they're compliant. If what you're doing requires informed consent, it is not. Even if you provide a "Reject All" button, it makes no difference if you've pre-selected options that require informed consent.
What a supervisory authority will expect from a data controller upon being questioned is whether or not it can clearly demonstrate that a data subject freely gave consent and what information they were given at the time consent was provided. If a data controller is found to be collecting or processing personal information for purposes not described in their Privacy Policy – even if it would otherwise constitute an essential activity – that is also a breach of the GDPR because part of the requirements of the law is to explain what information you're collecting, how you're using it and on what legal basis.
To summarise, don't rely on implied consent for any purpose that requires the user to opt-in, and be prepared in case they change their mind. Any activity that requires a data subject to freely give consent can be withdrawn at any time (but a data controller is entitled to reasonable notice).
However, some activities (such as tracking users across different websites, or targeting ads based on users' interests) requires informed consent. This means data controllers must be able to clearly demonstrate that a user knowingly gave consent to such activity. This is why pre-selecting checkboxes to get permission to use personal information for marketing or analytics purposes is unlawful.
Unfortunately, a lot of websites assume by adding a cookie notice and getting users to press a button to accept the defaults, they're compliant. If what you're doing requires informed consent, it is not. Even if you provide a "Reject All" button, it makes no difference if you've pre-selected options that require informed consent.
What a supervisory authority will expect from a data controller upon being questioned is whether or not it can clearly demonstrate that a data subject freely gave consent and what information they were given at the time consent was provided. If a data controller is found to be collecting or processing personal information for purposes not described in their Privacy Policy – even if it would otherwise constitute an essential activity – that is also a breach of the GDPR because part of the requirements of the law is to explain what information you're collecting, how you're using it and on what legal basis.
To summarise, don't rely on implied consent for any purpose that requires the user to opt-in, and be prepared in case they change their mind. Any activity that requires a data subject to freely give consent can be withdrawn at any time (but a data controller is entitled to reasonable notice).
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Or give us our cut.
I accept, I promise! I'll sign my life away in blood if I must! Just quit it with the pop ups!
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Every single page load! I get the pop-up even if I just clicked reject all and opened a link in a new tab. Heck, even if I refresh the page. I allow first party cookies but block third party cookies. This works fine on all other websites. And yes, I'm in Europe.
First, "we care about your privacy" is a blatant lie. And I hate lies. I would much prefer a headline "sorry, but GDPR forces us to do that".
That said, MacRumors is still reasonably harmless. I have seen sites (arstechnica.com is one, the other may have been Engadget.com) that actually think you should go to the websites of 30 different advertisers and change settings for each one of them. I'm quite sure that puts them in violation of GDPR, but they obviously don't care.
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You obviously do have a choice in the matter.
Don't do anything that requires consent in the EU.