you know what's not a minimal upgrade? S3

[AAPLinc]

Apple was merely playing catchup with the iPhone 5.

Playing catchup? You mean Apple is lapping Android? Considering the 4S kills the S3 on benchmarks, even though the S3 is supposed to be Samsungs answer to the iPhone? Oh and then they got sued.

The S3s star will burn out far quicker than an iPhones ever will.

 

[aznguyen316]

The software layout on the s3 just looks cheap, all the lads at work have them and it isn't for me!

luckily he's savvy enough to install CM10 on it. Pure android jelly bean rocks.

 

[TheMacBookPro]

The reviews you are quoting are not in any way shape or form comparisons between the iPhone 4+ and the Samsung Galaxy S3. They are also not quantitative at all. They just say "it's fast". Fast compared to what? Fast is a meaningless term which tells you nothing factual whatsoever and is complete junk at juding anything.

The Samsung Galaxy S3 is one of the fastest Android phones sure but the fact is that the iPhone 4S is faster at performing tasks than the Samsung Galaxy S3 in direct comparisons. In many technical benchmarks the dual core version scores very close to the iPhone 4S aswell, but the software hangups are the real issue...

Maybe I've been spoiled but I just find the S3's hiccups to be unacceptable, even a fraction of a delay in any opperation on a smartphone interface is really annoying.

Head to their websites and watch their hands-on video review then.

Here's a video comparison with accompanying text between the 4S and the Galaxy S III. Good enough for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHUrE1mml4o

03:30 is where the fun begins. I dunno, looks just as smooth to me.

It actually would have mattered, if the performance was different on both devices, but they both run super-fluidly, without any delays or slowdowns, they are pretty much equal in this respect.

Don't get me wrong. I like the iPhone too, and I'm not the world's greatest Galaxy S III fan (I prefer my HTC One X tbh). But I'm not so blinded as to believe that a two year old phone, made by Apple or not, is any better.

Re: the quantitative/quantitative thing- your 'review' from that trusty bodybuilding blog isn't quantitative either, as I'm not seeing any FPS numbers quoted. These are all opinions. Having a video to actually see the performance for yourself, or better yet actually having the device in-hand, is the only way to make an accurate opinion for yourself.
And based on the numerous S IIIs I've used and reviews I've watched, none showed the performance to be 'far more laggy than an iPhone 4'.

If what you're saying is true, then like I said- it's a problem with the specific phone you were using rather than with the phone in general. Maybe he still had a whole bunch of applications still loaded up in the background. Who knows?

I hope you understand why I'm doubting you, seeing as how there are very few reviews or videos on the Internet that reflect your experience with the device while there are plenty showing the opposite.

 

[LSUtigers03]

luckily he's savvy enough to install CM10 on it. Pure android jelly bean rocks.

You don't miss the touchwiz notification shade? One thing I don't like about pure android is no toggles in the shade. I haven't used CM since 7 have they added it?

 

[TheMacBookPro]

You don't miss the touchwiz notification shade? One thing I don't like about pure android is no toggles in the shade. I haven't used CM since 7 have they added it?

That was added in CM a long time ago. It's certainly here on my HOX running CM10.

 

[VDubb]

As someone who went from the 4S to the S3, and going to the iPhone 5 next week, I have to agree with those that say the people stating S3 is laggy/slower than the 4S are either using a device that's either malfunctioning, has something installed causing the issues, or are just fanboys.

The S3 is up with the iPhone 4S in terms of performance from what I've experienced, and will most likely be up there with the iPhone 5 when JB releases. It's a shame I won't get to experience JB due to the nature of Android upgrades which is the only major downfall of the device.

- VDubb

 

[TheMacBookPro]

As someone who went from the 4S to the S3, and going to the iPhone 5 next week, I have to agree with those that say the people stating S3 is laggy/slower than the 4S are either using a device that's either malfunctioning, has something installed causing the issues, or are just fanboys.

The S3 is up with the iPhone 4S in terms of performance from what I've experienced, and will most likely be up there with the iPhone 5 when JB releases. It's a shame I won't get to experience JB due to the nature of Android upgrades which is the only major downfall of the device.

- VDubb

Custom ROM and have JB today, or wait for the official update which is coming in October.

 

[asr10 user]

Good for you. Dont listen to either Android or iOS haters. Pick which device suits your own needs. I was the biggest iOS fan until I got my S3. Now I am a fan and hater of both, but for my needs the S3 suits me just fine.

 

[Radiating]

Head to their websites and watch their hands-on video review then.

Here's a video comparison with accompanying text between the 4S and the Galaxy S III. Good enough for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHUrE1mml4o

03:30 is where the fun begins. I dunno, looks just as smooth to me.



Don't get me wrong. I like the iPhone too, and I'm not the world's greatest Galaxy S III fan (I prefer my HTC One X tbh). But I'm not so blinded as to believe that a two year old phone, made by Apple or not, is any better.

Re: the quantitative/quantitative thing- your 'review' from that trusty bodybuilding blog isn't quantitative either, as I'm not seeing any FPS numbers quoted. These are all opinions. Having a video to actually see the performance for yourself, or better yet actually having the device in-hand, is the only way to make an accurate opinion for yourself.
And based on the numerous S IIIs I've used and reviews I've watched, none showed the performance to be 'far more laggy than an iPhone 4'.

If what you're saying is true, then like I said- it's a problem with the specific phone you were using rather than with the phone in general. Maybe he still had a whole bunch of applications still loaded up in the background. Who knows?

I hope you understand why I'm doubting you, seeing as how there are very few reviews or videos on the Internet that reflect your experience with the device while there are plenty showing the opposite.

Hmm that's video was actually fairly convincing, I appreciate the post.

I've been doing a bit of research into the issue and it looks like unlike the iPhone that automatically suspends apps, android leaves things running in the background a lot more. The galaxy S also had an issue with a buggy interface in un-updated versions.

That's one of the reasons why I preffer apple though. Things just work, you don't have to update this and modify that and manage this, and then download 15 different programs that all crash until you find one that works.

I also agree that the HTC One X is better than the S3.

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

galaxy s III is completely overrated

Replace "Galaxy S III" with iPhone 5.

- cruddy battery life

Proof?

- it's running touchwiz

Replaceable. Google is your friend.

- pentile matrix screen. BLEH.

And?

- you're at the mercy of Samsung for updates

Breaking news: It is the same on the Apple platform.

- the quality of the phone is abysmal

You can change the battery, the SD-card and so on...

- bigger screen doesn't always mean better.

I'm sure that this is the reason why the iPhone 5 has a bigger screen, compared to the 4S. ;-)

The iPhone 5 is the ideal device if you like electronic prisons.

From:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/apples-crystal-prison-and-future-open-platforms

Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals.

EFF supports Wozniak's position: while Apple's products have many virtues, they are marred by an ugly set of restrictions on what users and programmers can do with them. This is most especially true of iOS, though other Apple products sometimes suffer in the same way. In this article we will delve into the kinds of restrictions that Apple, phone companies, and Microsoft have been imposing on mobile computers; the excuses these companies make when they impose these restrictions; the dangers this is creating for open innovation; why Apple in particular should lead the way in fixing this mess. We also propose a bill of rights that need to be secured for people who are purchasing smartphones and other pocket computers.
...

Wozniak is the co-founder of Apple Computer Inc. (now Apple Inc.). Next argument, please! ;-)

 

[VDubb]

Custom ROM and have JB today, or wait for the official update which is coming in October.

I don't use custom ROMs for JB. While they are fairly stable, they all (at least for Verizon Galaxy S3 on XDA-Developers) still have a few bugs.

- VDubb

 

[onthecouchagain]

The S3 is cool and all, but I'm only excited about it because it gives us a glimpse of what the Nexus 2012 will be like...

 

[aohus]

Replace "Galaxy S III" with iPhone 5.


Proof?


Replaceable. Google is your friend.


And?


Breaking news: It is the same on the Apple platform.


You can change the battery, the SD-card and so on...


I'm sure that this is the reason why the iPhone 5 has a bigger screen, compared to the 4S. ;-)

The iPhone 5 is the ideal device if you like electronic prisons.


Wozniak is the co-founder of Apple Computer Inc. (now Apple Inc.). Next argument, please! ;-)

galaxy s3 = cheap plastic materials.

Proof of cruddy battery life is from multiple forums as well as benchmarks from tech sites

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/778992

the point is for the end user not to have to do manual tasks to make something better. the point is to for a great out of box experience.

 

[cynics]

galaxy s3 = cheap plastic materials.

Proof of cruddy battery life is from multiple forums as well as benchmarks from tech sites

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/778992

the point is for the end user not to have to do manual tasks to make something better. the point is to for a great out of box experience.

An Android device is very very similar to an iPhone out of the box. The difference is you need to jailbreak the iPhone to do even the simplest of customization, like place app (app icons with Android) any where on the screen or set a different browser as your default browser.

At the same time you don't have to customize it and stay with the very similar to the iPhone experience. But let's face it, if iOS offered widgets, live backgrounds and things of that nature must of us would at least try them out for a bit or set up your phone to better suit your needs. Its not that people don't want the hassle of customization (keep in mind you don't have too and can keep the iPhone like experience) its that they are not allowed too.

You said early you are at the mercy of Samsung for updates. This is not true at all, people have been using ios 6 forever yet I'm still waiting for its official release. If this was Android it would be a simple task for me to put it on here and a even simpler task to take it off. I'm at Apples mercy, no Android handset manufacture can hold down one of there device users.

 

[SprSynJn]

So far I'm very impressed and about to install cyanogenmod for jelly bean.

That's where I stopped reading, no offense. To me it seems everyone has to screw with that phone to really enjoy it. The same went for the model I had. No thank you.

 

[cynics]

That's where I stopped reading, no offense. To me it seems everyone has to screw with that phone to really enjoy it. The same went for the model I had. No thank you.

Not everyone. The people that root are the same people that would jailbreak an iphone to really enjoy it. Like I mentioned I'm using Android in its stock form, I don't have a S3 but if I did I think the new touchwiz really brings a lot to the table so I'd probably keep that too.

Again this is another choice given by Android. Don't confuse iPhone users not wanting/needing to use custom roms with them not being given that choice. We both know there would be plenty of iPhone users running all sorts of crazy roms given the choice....

 

[wrkactjob]

galaxy s III is completely overrated

- cruddy battery life

- it's running touchwiz

- pentile matrix screen. BLEH.

- you're at the mercy of Samsung for updates

- the quality of the phone is abysmal

- bigger screen doesn't always mean better.

Wow! it sounds crap...so how come 20 million people went out and bought it if its so obviously bad?...were they all mistaken?

 

[nba1341]

galaxy s III is completely overrated

- cruddy battery life

- it's running touchwiz

- pentile matrix screen. BLEH.

- you're at the mercy of Samsung for updates

- the quality of the phone is abysmal

- bigger screen doesn't always mean better.

You ignored the part where he said he is installing cm10 which offers
-Amazing battery life
-Use whatever launcher you want
-At mercy to the many developers who develop for the s3 (over 20 of them nothing to do with samsung)
-Bigger screen better for watching video content and Web browsing
otherwise why would anyone upgrade to I phone 5?

 

[blackhand1001]

galaxy s III is completely overrated

- cruddy battery life

- it's running touchwiz

- pentile matrix screen. BLEH.

- you're at the mercy of Samsung for updates

- the quality of the phone is abysmal

- bigger screen doesn't always mean better.

Battery life on it is better than the 4s and probably the 5 as well.

 

[Technarchy]

I am counting the days that you'll return the S3 and go for an iP5 after all

Those that do, will probably do so quietly so all their trolling comments don't come back to haunt them.

No doubt there's lots if SG3 buyer's remorse out there though and sneaking back into the Apple camp will be happening quite a bit over the next few weeks as iPhone 5 pics up momentum

 

[cynics]

Those that do, will probably do so quietly so all their trolling comments don't come back to haunt them.

No doubt there's lots if SG3 buyer's remorse out there though and sneaking back into the Apple camp will be happening quite a bit over the next few weeks as iPhone 5 pics up momentum

No they won't. The had my S3 for 24 hours to 1 week crowd is very very vocal about it.

 

[aohus]

Battery life on it is better than the 4s and probably the 5 as well.

i guarantee you it will not have better battery life than the iPhone 5. a 4.0 inch screen dual core 1.02 ghz processor will not be as power hungry as a quad core 1.5 ghz cpu on a 4.8 inch screen, not to mention, it will be using qualcomm's latest MDM9615 LTE chip.

You ignored the part where he said he is installing cm10 which offers

you seriously think most people are going to do that? iPhone is not for the tech enthusiasts. It's catered towards the lowest common denominator. You think a mother of 3 is going to install custom OS's on her phone? No.

 

[blackhand1001]

i guarantee you it will not have better battery life than the iPhone 5. a 4.0 inch screen dual core 1.02 ghz processor will not be as power hungry as a quad core 1.5 ghz cpu on a 4.8 inch screen, not to mention, it will be using qualcomm's latest MDM9615 LTE chip.



you seriously think most people are going to do that? iPhone is not for the tech enthusiasts. It's catered towards the lowest common denominator. You think a mother of 3 is going to install custom OS's on her phone? No.

I was referring to the qualcomm snapdragon s4 variant of the s3. The one that gets better battery life and has an even better Qualcomm late radio than the iPhone. Its built right into the soc.

 

[dojoman]

If I were you I'd rather get Nexus line of phones. Samsung let Galaxy line filled with Network carrier's junk. There are lots of bloated ware on network specific phones. When I look at Nexus phone unlocked with JB it's clean but then there's no 4G LTE.

 

[Oohara]

The S3 is cool and all, but I'm only excited about it because it gives us a glimpse of what the Nexus 2012 will be like...

Amen to that. Hopefully it will be cool looking like the GNex too, the S3 may be a beast on the inside but my god is it ugly