One other thing I'll add; there is what you have termed 'expensive' money and there is silly money.
So, I now have a serious collection of Leica glass, built up over the past two years - most of which I have yet to even get to try out. However, it was all bought 'used' from an authorised Leica dealer, as was the camera. Now, this is still 'expensive' - it just isn't stratospheric; and I can always sell back what I decide I will not require.
Some of this was opportunistic buying - I already had bought a Summicron, as the 'default' lens that everyone had recommended, when the summiluxes turned up. Precisely because I have longed all my life to be able to shoot flawlessly in low light - and play with available light and not be hobbled by circumstances - (rain, bleak, charcoal coloured skies, light deprivation in northern Europe), I leapt at the Summiluxes when they becomes available.
Anyway, the point of this thread was to highlight the 'one' lens; I had assumed that with primes, it would have been one of the 50mm lenses; no, the 1.4 35mm will be the very last Leica lens that I get rid of. It is phenomenal, just wonderful; and it renders people superbly, too.
$5000 for a manual lens... no thanks.
You did excite my imagination regarding your job. Pulled me into a deduction treasure-hunt of possible careers. Not trying to extort an answer from you, just wanted to let you know.
Moreover, I do not condemn the purchase of expensive glass, or silly expensive for that matter. My bank account knows firsthand what I'm talking about.
On a side note, your eloquence is unparalleled. Goooosh.
No need to justify paying for those lenses. I would kill for a 35mm Summilux to use on my Fuji. I love rangefinder glass but have to make do with Russian Zeiss copies in the form of Jupiters. My Voigtlander M39 mount 15mm is one of my favourite lenses - so small and light and awesome quality.
No need to justify paying for those lenses. I would kill for a 35mm Summilux to use on my Fuji. I love rangefinder glass but have to make do with Russian Zeiss copies in the form of Jupiters. My Voigtlander M39 mount 15mm is one of my favourite lenses - so small and light and awesome quality.
MacRy: When I returned from London and south west England after a long overdue holiday earlier this past autumn, I strolled into my local camera shop (it has since, tragically, in the past two weeks, closed its doors, anther casualty of the recession and changing trends) and handed in a few rolls of film to be developed (which is one of the reasons I am utterly unable to enter the weekly competitions, as I still use film, and need someone to develop it for me).
Anyway, Mike, the lovely chap I have dealt with endlessly over the years, took my rolls of film and we chatted.
Then, I fished my M6 and the two Summiluxes (50 and 35) out from my rucksack, handed them to him, and told him to take them away and play with them for a week. I won't say that he whimpered, but I will say this his eyes widened and his voice dropped to a whisper. We talked a bit more; I thought that a week would give him a feel for the things - they are after all, something of a fantasy, who wouldn't love having had the opportunity to use them if photography is a hobby and this sort of mad equipment is a notion of an idealised - some would argue (nonsensically in my view) unattainable perfection?
I remember how I was driven - by a very distant cousin, who turned up most unexpectedly on our family's doorstep, in a Rolls Royce, once in my life, and I still vividly recall the experience, stunned though I was at the inarticulate and awkward age of 13, and I'm not a car fanatic by any means (I don't even own one). The ad was right - the engine was virtually silent, it purred .in fact, that car glided off the pavement ..
So, back to cameras, in fairness, Mike said that he would have been happy cherishing the Leica and its Summilux lenses for a day, but I thought, for God's sake, play with them, enjoy them, they are make of solid iron, they can handle being handled - they are supposed to be the most robust lenses in the world - get comfortable with them and enjoy them. See what they can do. Take them for a week, at least.
Mike was a bit emotional when I called in (well over a week later); he showed me the rolls of film he had shot and developed - pictures of his niece, pictures of his cat (extraordinary shots), pictures of a travelling fair he had taken his niece to, he took great shots with it, and he had hugely enjoyed using the camera and lenses. I learned from him - he was prepared to show me (and he is a professional) what he thought the camera and lenses could do. Anyway, I thought he would revel in the experience - and the sheer physical, and aesthetic pleasure - of using this stuff, and he did.
MacRy: When I returned from London and south west England after a long overdue holiday earlier this past autumn, I strolled into my local camera shop (it has since, tragically, in the past two weeks, closed its doors, anther casualty of the recession and changing trends) and handed in a few rolls of film to be developed (which is one of the reasons I am utterly unable to enter the weekly competitions, as I still use film, and need someone to develop it for me).
Anyway, Mike, the lovely chap I have dealt with endlessly over the years, took my rolls of film and we chatted.
Then, I fished my M6 and the two Summiluxes (50 and 35) out from my rucksack, handed them to him, and told him to take them away and play with them for a week. I won't say that he whimpered, but I will say this his eyes widened and his voice dropped to a whisper. We talked a bit more; I thought that a week would give him a feel for the things - they are after all, something of a fantasy, who wouldn't love having had the opportunity to use them if photography is a hobby and this sort of mad equipment is a notion of an idealised - some would argue (nonsensically in my view) unattainable perfection?
I remember how I was driven - by a very distant cousin, who turned up most unexpectedly on our family's doorstep, in a Rolls Royce, once in my life, and I still vividly recall the experience, stunned though I was at the inarticulate and awkward age of 13, and I'm not a car fanatic by any means (I don't even own one). The ad was right - the engine was virtually silent, it purred .in fact, that car glided off the pavement ..
So, back to cameras, in fairness, Mike said that he would have been happy cherishing the Leica and its Summilux lenses for a day, but I thought, for God's sake, play with them, enjoy them, they are make of solid iron, they can handle being handled - they are supposed to be the most robust lenses in the world - get comfortable with them and enjoy them. See what they can do. Take them for a week, at least.
Mike was a bit emotional when I called in (well over a week later); he showed me the rolls of film he had shot and developed - pictures of his niece, pictures of his cat (extraordinary shots), pictures of a travelling fair he had taken his niece to, he took great shots with it, and he had hugely enjoyed using the camera and lenses. I learned from him - he was prepared to show me (and he is a professional) what he thought the camera and lenses could do. Anyway, I thought he would revel in the experience - and the sheer physical, and aesthetic pleasure - of using this stuff, and he did.
Thanks for your kind words.
I know that with Leica everyone says that the 'glass' is the thing, and it is. However, the camera itself is so well designed, it fits, ergonomically perfect, easily in my hand; I have found that I love actually holding it, and using it. Moreover, with either of those lenses on, wearing it on a strap around your neck, the camera feels perfectly balanced; it sits waiting for the next shot.
Re photography indoors, I took it to Gloucester Cathedral, Wells Cathedral, a medieval tithe barn in Bradford-on-Avon, the fantastic Perpendicular church in Cirencester and it performed flawlessly in all of them on cloudy, overcast days.
Anyway, I have been bowled over by how good - and how user-friendly - the camera and lens actually are. Granted, my very first camera at school a long time ago was an ancient Minolta rangefinder, which was given to me as a gift - and which took great pictures.
My everyday lens is the Canon 40mm f2.8!
Not because I'm cheap but because it's smallest and the lightest while having tack sharp images wide open!
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Leicas are crap!!!
...on paper. Use one and it's really hard to go back.![]()
I love the small size of the lenses, their reassuring solidity (they are, after all, made of metal, but don't feel massive or too heavy, just reassuringly solid), their stunning sharpness, and - obviously - their extraordinary flexibility and ease of use in low light situations. Above all, I love the buttery smoothness of their operation, and physically, they are an absolute pleasure to use.
I personally hate them but only because I cannot afford the Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95 ASPH Lens
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Leicas are crap!!!
...on paper. Use one and it's really hard to go back.![]()
I understand your issue, but most great lenses are manual and the Leica ones are collectors items.$5000 for a manual lens... no thanks.
I understand your issue, but most great lenses are manual and the Leica ones are collectors items.
By pixel peeping standards you are of course correct. Leica is nothing special in that regard. But, photography is art and joy. The gear is part of the process and Leica is famous for bringing this joy to people. It's the overall experience that counts.nothing against manual lenses. i think if i paid $5,000 for a lens, i would love it too, only if to justify the silliness in buying such a low value proposition collector's item.
i use a $50 russian helios zenit 58mm and a $90 asahi takumar 50mm f1.4 lens and get great results, tack sharp images and creamy bokeh. does a leica lens offer 100x the performance and image quality? i think not.
nothing against manual lenses. i think if i paid $5,000 for a lens, i would love it too, only if to justify the silliness in buying such a low value proposition collector's item.
i use a $50 russian helios zenit 58mm and a $90 asahi takumar 50mm f1.4 lens and get great results, tack sharp images and creamy bokeh. does a leica lens offer 100x the performance and image quality? i think not.
By pixel peeping standards you are of course correct. Leica is nothing special in that regard. But, photography is art and joy. The gear is part of the process and Leica is famous for bringing this joy to people. It's the overall experience that counts.
And they are also collectors items with a high resale value.