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Indviduals who spend $2500 at best buy get "premier silver" status for their rewardzone membership for a year. One of the perks is, you guessed it, no restocking fees. They also get a 45 day return period instead of the standard one.

I may have missed that... but thanks for the info... I tend to try and support the smaller stores - but can see why they are dying off. :(

(I guess that is why the smaller stores are dying off...) Nice gig they have for now at BB. IMO, they live off the expertise of the smaller shops till they are gone. :( The ones that provided advice on what to purchase - even for a short while.

I guess it is not hard for some families to spend $2500 on stoves, refrigs, stoves, game machines, DVD's, CD's, HDTV's, and the such. Nice "free rental" of a camcorder for a Disney vacation. <eek>

I just hope that folks that take advantage of this aren't using the remaining smalls stores for real support - till they are gone. Then what will Best Buy do?

In the photo shop I work in - we give the time and service for ANY customer that comes through our doors. We are hoping that in the end our experience counts for something.

And we are are still strong against the big box stores... despite the "premier silver" status...

Even if I had this status.. I would never "rent or try out" the new iPad.... when I make a purchase - I want it to stick... Not in the habit of just trying things out - guess with the iPad I am willing to wait and see...

I know that the above might run counter to some comments about the Kindle that I have posted so far... but there are no retail stores that i can go see and experience the Kindle at.

Oh the joys of shopping online and not seeing the product firsthand...
 
No, he said the store had sold zero. It wasn't him, they had their full allocation in stock. He said that specifically. No reason to try and "sugar coat" it. I just thought it was a bit surprising, and a little disappointing as a dev. I'm really curious where this thing is going.

You are disappointed because your best buy didn't sell any? :rolleyes:

As a dev, you shouldn't be basing your development plans based on how much a local best buy sells. Check the other thread where it is though that Apple has sold approx 700,000 in just one day.
 
Wow, I've been gone for a few hours after I finally got my iPad and I see that this thread still has legs. Amazing! I guess the OP got what he was after.:rolleyes:

I went over to the Apple store in Fashion Island Newport Beach and it was an absolute zoo. People were falling over each other to get to the iPads. I could hardly get into the door.The sales guy I spoke to said that they got a second shipment just shortly before I got there and that they had plenty more to sell.
 
If the estimated sales of 600,000 to 700,000 are true, then it's selling pretty well.
 
The iPad has garnered so much hate, I haven't seen a product hated so much before in my life. So many people are waiting for it to fail, I can't wait for Apple to prove them wrong.
 
Obviously a troll...

Agree. The part that gave it away for me was when the original poster mentioned some old coot pooh poohing the ipad because it didn't support Flash. YAWN! The lack of flash hasn't depressed iphone/ipod sales, and it won't affect ipad sales either.
 
I'm glad I went to Best Buy. So many ridiculous posts around here like "What, why didn't you pre order?" Some people didn't have the money, some want it on launch day and don't get Saturday delivery. Now I read that there's more than a few unhappy people who pre ordered that didn't get theirs today. In their defense, it would be aggravating if they live somewhere that gets Saturday delivery but Ups just dropped the ball.
 
Hmm, I didn't realize Best Buy accepts returns of opened items, much less 14 days after purchase. I might just buy one tomorrow, return it in 14 days, and then buy the 3G when it comes out. Then again that's kind of a hassle.
 
It's impossible to determine the success or failure on launch day. Apple knew they'd kill on launch day even if there was a hurricane covering the entire US. The fanboys will come out and buy it no matter what. It's no surprise that's they'd tend to go to the apple store either. It's going to be interesting to see if they can sell these things to people like my parents. The next few months are key to its success or failure. We'll see how it goes.
 
Imagine if Porsche sold a 911 for just $2,000. They would sell so many of them. I would probably have five or six of them!

The $499 pricepoint for the base model is an unbelievable value. There is no way they could have made just one model that was $100 less. Impossible. They could have done it, but only if they wanted to give those billions in the bank back.

OK I give you some of that... but manufacturing costs of two distinct models has their costs. They could have done the one (the 3G model at maybe $550 for the 16GB) and reaped the revenues that ATT is giving them for the $15/30 a month) and maybe saved production costs for two different models...

Wait and see what competitors come out with, comparable units, and see how much they are or how gimped the sub $500 products are...[/qoute]

The Kindle DX is looking better for us iPhone owners so far...

[qoute]You have to realize that a huge percentage of the most eager buyers already ordered their items on line. There is no real value at this point in Apple being out of stock on day one if they can help it. They already pre-sold hundreds of thousands of devices and added significantly to that today.

Many of the eager buyers are folks that will buy ANYTHING Apple... I was one of those that felt the same way about the iPhone. But I gave up on the hype and decided to stay with Sprint... till the 2nd day and played with one for just 5 minutes. That is not what I felt with the iPad late this evening... it was OK... but no WOW factor over my iPhone or my MacBook Pro so far...

Heck I was able to score a 8GB iPhone on the second day!

Yet you somehow think if they made only one model for $399 they somehow would have been better off.

Sorry that you saw it that way. I meant to say that that the base 16GB with 3G would have flown off the selfs EVERYWHERE! Added value counts right now in the economy...

The revenue from apps that are costing more perhaps than with the iPhone would have helped. Added to that I think Apple is getting a cut of the $15/30 a month 3G access charge.... not to mention some news on MR that Amazon is looking to raise prices on e-books to match Apple..

Just saying that at a $399 price point with 3G - I would have bought one today. That is with owning an iPhone and a MacBook Pro 13".

Given that Amazon is giving a 30 day try-out - I think that Apple should give us iPhone users the same to see if the iPad is worth having side-by-side....

I can only say that I was WOW'd by Jobs' pretension of Kennedy's book... if I can get that on Kindle - it will be a tough choice. But beyond that Apple should have spent the past year to get publishers on board - with models that made sense.

I already mentioned in many threads that Time and SP are looking the same cover price as the printed version. :( But I can buy Time at 70 cents an issue in the printed version..

So instead of the billion plus dollars they made today from pre-orders and sales, you think losing 750 million dollars would have been a better plan? That is essentially what you were proposing with your statement.

Not sure if you work in a retail business.. .but the are times you have to look at short term goals vs long term goals...

I do have to say that Apple with the iPad looked at the short term goals - hoping that long term goals would make it work. And in the end they might be right...

But in the end I say that if they spent the past year in getting publishers together - then Apple would have had a hard time keeping up with the demand - and that may be their game plan - but based on some comments from today - this could be the next Newton UNLESS Apple ramps up the content that makes the Kindle pale at similar price points...
 
Not sure if you work in a retail business.. .but the are times you have to look at short term goals vs long term goals...

My whole first career was in retail. There is no value in what you believe to be the long term goal by essentially giving away 1.5 billion dollars.

They will be past the number of Kindles on the market within 6 months. Easy.

By the time they launch version 2 of the device they will have 500% more iPads on the market than Kindles. Regardless, Kindle is not the competition here. Kindle makes a book reader. It would be like saying that a Archos 2 MP3 Player was a competitor. The Kindle happens to compete in one small area of what the iPad does.

The iPad is the first device of its kind. There is no competition currently, and they have struck the right balance between price point and profitability. I am not sure you understand that the $499 pricepoint is likely losing money for Apple. For every $499 device they sell, they are probably losing between $1 and $100. So they already got hyper aggressive to build up the market. The Kindle DX is like $20 less than an iPad. Selling one device at $399 is simply impossible. It would not do anything. You might sell 7 million in the next year instead of 6 million, and then you will have yourself in a huge bind when you have to raise the prices of future generations because you sold your original product for $150 under cost.

That is the part you are missing. Apple already way undercut where everyone thought they would be. Other tablet makers freaked out when Apple announced a $499 price. They all thought for sure Apple would come in at $999 and that they could undercut apple and sell their product for $699 or $799. Now what are they going to do?
 
It probably didn't hurt that there is an Apple Store literally across the street from the Best Buy that I got it at... but yes I surely thought that given all the hype there would be NO chance of getting one after early afternoon. Maybe some people just haven't "bit" yet! I know that I was definitely against getting one until about 2 days ago.

There is a store-in-a store just a mile from the FX Apple store at Tysons...

In the end I think that those of us that got to play with one - were not taken by it like the iPhone.... I know I wasn't at the price point.. :( I so wanted one...... :) EVEN w/o 3G LOL

Am I the only one that does not see that Apple will offer iBooks the iphone and the rest of Mac lineup?
 
Best Buy in Smyrna GA had some left abut 11am this morning. All 32GB. Said they would be getting another shipment in about 1-2 as well. No big lines, occasional there would be 1-2 people waiting to test the 3 they had out.

I have had 2g, 3g and now 3gs I phone. The device was nice. If I did not have a laptop, eee pc and 2 desktops i might get one.

This would be nice for people with a desktop that would like a light weight portable for doing some movie playing, videos and light gaming. To me, it was like a big iphone. The screen is very nice.
 
My whole first career was in retail. There is no value in what you believe to be the long term goal by essentially giving away 1.5 billion dollars.

They will be past the number of Kindles on the market within 6 months. Easy.

By the time they launch version 2 of the device they will have 500% more iPads on the market than Kindles. Regardless, Kindle is not the competition here. Kindle makes a book reader. It would be like saying that a Archos 2 MP3 Player was a competitor. The Kindle happens to compete in one small area of what the iPad does.

The iPad is the first device of its kind. There is no competition currently, and they have struck the right balance between price point and profitability. I am not sure you understand that the $499 pricepoint is likely losing money for Apple. For every $499 device they sell, they are probably losing between $1 and $100. So they already got hyper aggressive to build up the market. The Kindle DX is like $20 less than an iPad. Selling one device at $399 is simply impossible. It would not do anything. You might sell 7 million in the next year instead of 6 million, and then you will have yourself in a huge bind when you have to raise the prices of future generations because you sold your original product for $150 under cost.

That is the part you are missing. Apple already way undercut where everyone thought they would be. Other tablet makers freaked out when Apple announced a $499 price. They all thought for sure Apple would come in at $999 and that they could undercut apple and sell their product for $699 or $799. Now what are they going to do?

It's unlikely that Apple loses anything on $499 devices simply because ... they do not cost $499. With all the overpriced adapters, cables, docks, cases etc. that one has to buy in order to be able to use this thing (which normally is not the case for similar devices), Apple should be doing just fine (not to mention skimpy 256BM of RAM).
 
My whole first career was in retail. There is no value in what you believe to be the long term goal by essentially giving away 1.5 billion dollars.

Not sure what sector of "retail" that you worked in - for me I worked in tech industries that were with million of dollars. At that level in our chat.. Apple has a choice at "giving away" hardware for the potential of future profits...

The current model seems to be about pure profits... but in the end depending on outside forces - they can dry up. Unless Apple is willing to use their reserves - then Apple may loose the battle ....
 
Hmm, I didn't realize Best Buy accepts returns of opened items, much less 14 days after purchase. I might just buy one tomorrow, return it in 14 days, and then buy the 3G when it comes out. Then again that's kind of a hassle.

Don't forget the 15% restocking fee.

I probably would have picked one up to day if it was the same return policy as the iPod -- 30 days and no restocking fee.

But unfortunately, it was a no sell. I'll wait for my 3G 64GB model. :D
 
The OP is just full of KAKA. I was at Best Buy in San Diego at 10:15am this morning. They had already sold about 30 by the time I got there, but the guy told me they had "plenty" in stock. There were about 5 people ahead of me in line and 3 or 4 behind me to buy one... Pretty easy in and out in 30 minutes, but they are definitely selling iPads at the San Diego best buy!!!
 
There's no doubt that the iPad is unique. I did not get the "wow" factor myself like I did when I first picked up the iPhone. The iPhone was revolutionary, iPad is an evolution of that platform.

However, iPhone still amazes me some three years later. I often comment how "futuristic" it feels to have so much going on in the palm of your hand, like Star Trek or something. The iPad is the same thing, but bigger and faster. Bigger screens and faster CPUs offer more opportunity.

For someone who doesn't have an iDevice, and gets an iPad as a second computer or as a media device, they may indeed be "wowed". iPad is unlike anything we have seen in the computer market... it's just that the smartphone market has something just like it now, but smaller. (iPhone)

I used to have a Macbook Pro that I carried around to surf, etc. (I do all my main work on a 27" i7 iMac). But that thing was a hassle to lug around for what I was using it for - a secondary device, and I sold it.

I used my iPhone to get the news etc away from my desk but on the couch or in bed say, but it was too small. iPhone is the perfect "pocketable" device, for on the go, but it's not big enough for more involved reading or work.

So today I got the iPad. And for what it is, it's perfect. Big enough to feel immersed, portable and small enough like a small magazine. And yes, revolutionary the way you interact with it, fluidly touching, unlike any laptop I have ever had.

It's all about perspective. I think iPad can revolutionize the low-end laptop/netbook market for all those who need a secondary device/low-end computer but want some Apple "magic" and want to use it around the home/dorm/coffee shops.

For all others, get a Mac or PC for real work, and stick with your iPhone/iPod touch for out-and-about mobility. Or get nothing if you don't need anything. Anyway you look at it, it's no reason for people to attack the iPad and Apple because it's similar to an existing Apple product. That's just narrow-sightedness.
 
CompuServe by chance:)? OMG, 30cps (or 120cps if you wanted to pay more) using a Ventel half card modem. Yeah, I had it in 1984/85. Sure glad those days are gone!

yup! Compuserve in all its metered service "glory"! Man, am I glad that was put out of it's misery. or should I say my misery?
 
Best Buy reserves the right to do a restocking fee. I was told specifically by the person who sold mine, plus the customer service rep that rang me up along with manager on duty that happened to be behind her when I was confirming what the sales rep said that my Best Buy store does not participate in restocking fees. The MOD said it was a district decision. I didn't ask for anything in writing but I figure that the word of three different Best Buy employees is enough.

I'll probably end up returning it. It's a really nice device, just not $500 "early adopter tax" nice. I figure either I'll wait for a price drop, or I'll wait for the 2nd generation and pay the same price with more features.
 
Best Buy reserves the right to do a restocking fee. I was told specifically by the person who sold mine, plus the customer service rep that rang me up along with manager on duty that happened to be behind her when I was confirming what the sales rep said that my Best Buy store does not participate in restocking fees. The MOD said it was a district decision. I didn't ask for anything in writing but I figure that the word of three different Best Buy employees is enough.

I'll probably end up returning it. It's a really nice device, just not $500 "early adopter tax" nice. I figure either I'll wait for a price drop, or I'll wait for the 2nd generation and pay the same price with more features.

Under the law, verbal contracts have little weight sadly.... not like the days a handshake was good enough....

Let us know of your experiences if you do return it...
 
The iPad has garnered so much hate, I haven't seen a product hated so much before in my life. So many people are waiting for it to fail, I can't wait for Apple to prove them wrong.

Polarity and strong opposition is bound to occur when something or someone is so popular. :rolleyes: and with internet easily accessible along with social networking sites, this is amplified to the million-th degree
 
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