iPad Pro 10.5 first thoughts

[asleep]

How about chassis vibration when you have the volume turned up, is the vibration when you are holding it about the same?

Well the 9.7 has the silicon back on it while the 10.5 was naked, so the latter's chassis will be less damped. Which is why I was surprised to notice the 9.7 was louder.

After I finish 2 days of breaking the 10.5 in with pink noise I'll test them with a dB meter.

 

[triangletechie]

I have the 9.7 Pro and just got my 10.5 Pro. Don't really notice the weight difference and the screen is simply outstanding. I also do like the extra size in the touch keyboard.

 

[malikkamran]

why is charging so slow

 

[Rck1984]

why is charging so slow

Charging feels fine to me. Of course it could be faster but it's acceptable. If you want it to charge faster, get your hands on a 29w MBP charger and a USB-C / Lightningcable.

 

[malikkamran]

Charging feels fine to me. Of course it could be faster but it's acceptable. If you want it to charge faster, get your hands on a 29w MBP charger and a USB-C / Lightningcable.

thanks

 

[baypharm]

why is charging so slow

I notice this as well. My original ipad air charges super fast.

 

[Traverse]

looking forward to impressions from people that have a 9.7" pro so are already used to truetone and the better speakers.

How good is the faster refresh screen - does it get rid of the 'rolling sea' type effect when scrolling websites quickly? and does the larger screen give you more usable space or just larger things?

I purchased the 9.7" Pro on release day and replaced it with an unplanned 10.5" Pro on release day.

Discounting the the shared features you mentioned, here are my thoughts: a worthy upgrade.

• The screen size increase is very welcome. While it's still dual iphone views in split view, it's more roomy.
• The thinner bezels make the larger screen feel even more substatntial. The device as a whole feels much larger in use, but not in size.
• Touch ID is faster - it's not a night and day but shaves off about a second or two with each use.
• Camera appears slightly more vibrant - minor though
• A10X is notacinly faster. Again, on iOS 10. The difference is marginal, but iOS 11 will show this more. The extra 2GB of RAM is noticeable. 15+ safari tabs plus apps for days with no refreshing.
• ProMotion: the feature I disregarded is the biggest update. Many reviews compared it to the jump from Retina, though less dramatic - but they're right. This is the biggest screen update since the iPad 3 in my option with a very notice effect on fluidity and perceived speed.

Taken together, I'm glad I upgraded despite the cost. I bought it for the larger sceen, but ProMotion erased any doubts.

 

[enricoclaudio]

Could any of you guys check on this?

I wanted to know if you guys have noticed that to power ON the iPad Pro 10.5 takes more time than normal. If I turn OFF the iPad, wait two mins then turn it ON again I need to press the Power ON button for about 5 secs for the iPad to turn ON. Then it takes additionally 2 secs for the Apple logo to appear on screen. On my iPad mini 2 I push the power button for just 1 sec and it turns ON. Is this normal for the iPad Pro 10.5?

I need to know if this is normal or not. So if not, then I'll go to Best Buy and ask for a replacement. Thanks!!

 

[Kylin370]

Questions for the 9.7inch upgraders:

How much of an improvement overall would you rate it? 20%? 30? I am basically hesitant to upgrade unless it's more than 30% but I would love the extra storage and speed..

 

[M5RahuL]

Could any of you guys check on this?

I wanted to know if you guys have noticed that to power ON the iPad Pro 10.5 takes more time than normal. If I turn OFF the iPad, wait two mins then turn it ON again I need to press the Power ON button for about 5 secs for the iPad to turn ON. Then it takes additionally 2 secs for the Apple logo to appear on screen. On my iPad mini 2 I push the power button for just 1 sec and it turns ON. Is this normal for the iPad Pro 10.5?

I need to know if this is normal or not. So if not, then I'll go to Best Buy and ask for a replacement. Thanks!!

Same here. Methinks it's normal.

 

[Superhappytree]

First time I've been completely satisfied with an iPad. Blisteringly fast. From games, to browsing, scrolling... to just navigating the whole OS. The games I've tried are ridiculously smooth, almost too smooth... I don't know if it's the increase in graphics or the 120hZ, probably a combo of both.

Games I'd reccomend to show off its power:

Real Racing 3
N.O.V.A 3
Freeblade
Unkilled
Submerged
Dead Trigger (1 and 2)
Submerged
Oz Kingdom

Also, try the Trailers app to show off the display (it's better because it's not compressed like YouTube) and search for Angry Birds, you can watch the first 10 mins free. Amazing... not necessarily for the film itself but picture quality wise.

All in all I'm loving this thing, I've barely put it down all day since I received it 20 hours ago.

Only improvements that would make it even more amazing are 3D Touch and Taptic Engine like iPhone 7, OLED to improve the display even more and removal of the home button with Touch ID implemented under the display. It's exciting because I know all of this will likely be added in the next iPad, in addition to even more improvements to iOS... exciting times indeed. And this is coming from someone who hasn't exactly been very optimistic about Apple... until this beast found itself in my hands.

 

[Aluminum213]

This display is amazing and I'm shocked that I'm actually noticing the screen size difference from the 9.7. When I first saw it in store I didn't look much different at all, but after buying it and using it at home I really started to appreciate the extra size

 

[redman042]

Some people turn True Tone off to edit photos depending on lighting conditions,, others turn on Night Shift and adjust to less warm. I'm still on the fence about upgrading from my 9.7 Pro. Went to Apple store for a brief look see, was originally leaning toward a 12.9 but the 10.5 works for me.

When in the Photos app, True Tone is turned off automatically. You don't need to manually do it.

 

[Ralfi]

Curious to know if wifi performance has improved for Air 2 users.

 

[nickftw8686]

Curious to know if wifi performance has improved for Air 2 users.

I can't speak to the air 2 and it's wifi performance but I have not noticed any issues so far with my 10.5 pro, everything has downloaded super fast and held connection well using my vpn and vpn off

 

[max2]

Curious to know if wifi performance has improved for Air 2 users.

Works the same here I would say.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

The finger print reader is so much better than it is on my 6s.

They use the same print reader. iPhone 6s forward has been using the 2nd gen reader.

 

[danny842003]

They use the same print reader. iPhone 6s forward has been using the 2nd gen reader.

That's been established but it's still works better for whatever reason.

 

[metalcyclone]

Questions for the 9.7inch upgraders:

How much of an improvement overall would you rate it? 20%? 30? I am basically hesitant to upgrade unless it's more than 30% but I would love the extra storage and speed..

I would give the improvements on the 10.5 at least 30-40%...

There's extra RAM (now confirmed) in the way of 4GB. There's more storage for your money and the A10X Fusion chip is supposed to be a beast although I personally have not tested anything processor intensive yet. The larger screen is superb! And the slight redesign with smaller bezels is welcome, especially since it helps accommodate the larger screen in a similar footprint. That is why I say it's at least a 30-40% improvement. I might even go as high as 50%. It's a beast!

 

[burgman]

Could any of you guys check on this?

I wanted to know if you guys have noticed that to power ON the iPad Pro 10.5 takes more time than normal. If I turn OFF the iPad, wait two mins then turn it ON again I need to press the Power ON button for about 5 secs for the iPad to turn ON. Then it takes additionally 2 secs for the Apple logo to appear on screen. On my iPad mini 2 I push the power button for just 1 sec and it turns ON. Is this normal for the iPad Pro 10.5?

I need to know if this is normal or not. So if not, then I'll go to Best Buy and ask for a replacement. Thanks!!

Tell me you can't be serious?

 

[Traverse]

Could any of you guys check on this?

I wanted to know if you guys have noticed that to power ON the iPad Pro 10.5 takes more time than normal. If I turn OFF the iPad, wait two mins then turn it ON again I need to press the Power ON button for about 5 secs for the iPad to turn ON. Then it takes additionally 2 secs for the Apple logo to appear on screen. On my iPad mini 2 I push the power button for just 1 sec and it turns ON. Is this normal for the iPad Pro 10.5?

I need to know if this is normal or not. So if not, then I'll go to Best Buy and ask for a replacement. Thanks!!

Yes. I noticed this and it scared me on the first boot. However, it starts up super fast. It may just be the screen doesn't light up instantly.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

That's been established but it's still works better for whatever reason.

It's possible that your finger print changed slightly over time. One of my friend has to set it up every month or so because his finger tend to have very dry skin which tend to crack easily, although he's a rather extreme case. Maybe try setting it up fresh in the 6s and then compare?

 

[MyopicPaideia]

Day Two
After my second day out in the field with the 10.5" as my rMB replacement and not even opening up the lid of my rMB, I have tentatively decided to keep both my 10.5" Pro and the mini 4, with the rMB getting the boot.

Worked a whole regular office day, 8-5 and still have 25% battery (45% brightness with auto brightness turned on). It has been super awesome! Still don't know if it is the novelty of it all, but this form factor finally did it for me, even still being on iOS 10.3.2. once I get my hands on that first public beta of iOS 11, it may just be a permanently iOS only mobile setup for me!

Did a lot of printing to PDF via the print share sheet, PDF creation, editing, merging, and manipulating today, which gave me a lot more confidence in the iPad as a viable productivity tool. PDF Expert is definitely iOS's answer to Adobe Acrobat Pro, and is a great tool.

Did some exports from a client's CRM system, opened them in Numbers and manipulated them easily, over 6000 rows, sent them directly via email as excel files and then saved to Dropbox.

Created a new financial monthly report for another client from scratch using Numbers and Pages, exported as PDF to client via email, got back some annotations and commentary, made changes and delivered the final product.

It has been a very productive day, despite having to rethink workflows and use apps I'm not accustomed to using. Once I have these new workflows wired in, I am confident I'll be easily as productive as I am with my rMB and macOS.

Can't wait to have saved spaces using split screen combinations of apps. That is going to be very nice with iOS 11. Drag and Drop and Files app will also be very welcome additions to the workflow.

However, in all honesty this is going much better than I thought it would, and I am very happy with the experiment so far. The 10.5" screen in combination with the ASK does it. Perfect combo of screen size and portability.

I almost forget about my disappointment at not having the same 2732x2048 resolution as the 12.9" as I type this on my train commute home, and watch as the screen changes white temps as the sun shines in the window and then I am cast back into shadow...superb stuff!

 

[spiderman0616]

How about chassis vibration when you have the volume turned up, is the vibration when you are holding it about the same?

My wife was complaining the other night that I had mine turned up too loud, so of course I had to annoy her by turning it up full blast before turning it back down to a less annoying level. I was watching Deadliest Catch--there were loud waves and ship noises and people screaming, and I heard absolutely no crackle or chassis vibration at all on mine.
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Day Two
After my second day out in the field with the 10.5" as my rMB replacement and not even opening up the lid of my rMB, I have tentatively decided to keep both my 10.5" Pro and the mini 4, with the rMB getting the boot.

Worked a whole regular office day, 8-5 and still have 25% battery (45% brightness with auto brightness turned on). It has been super awesome! Still don't know if it is the novelty of it all, but this form factor finally did it for me, even still being on iOS 10.3.2. once I get my hands on that first public beta of iOS 11, it may just be a permanently iOS only mobile setup for me!

Did a lot of printing to PDF via the print share sheet, PDF creation, editing, merging, and manipulating today, which gave me a lot more confidence in the iPad as a viable productivity tool. PDF Expert is definitely iOS's answer to Adobe Acrobat Pro, and is a great tool.

Did some exports from a client's CRM system, opened them in Numbers and manipulated them easily, over 6000 rows, sent them directly via email as excel files and then saved to Dropbox.

Created a new financial monthly report for another client from scratch using Numbers and Pages, exported as PDF to client via email, got back some annotations and commentary, made changes and delivered the final product.

It has been a very productive day, despite having to rethink workflows and use apps I'm not accustomed to using. Once I have these new workflows wired in, I am confident I'll be easily as productive as I am with my rMB and macOS.

Can't wait to have saved spaces using split screen combinations of apps. That is going to be very nice with iOS 11. Drag and Drop and Files app will also be very welcome additions to the workflow.

However, in all honesty this is going much better than I thought it would, and I am very happy with the experiment so far. The 10.5" screen in combination with the ASK does it. Perfect combo of screen size and portability.

I almost forget about my disappointment at not having the same 2732x2048 resolution as the 12.9" as I type this on my train commute home, and watch as the screen changes white temps as the sun shines in the window and then I am cast back into shadow...superb stuff!

Isn't it funny how the people who need Macs or PCs to do their work like to tell you that you can't do any "real" work on your iPad, yet you have days like that where you got everything done that you needed to get done on a thin, light, powerful tablet?

The iPad Pro has always been a pretty mind blowing device to me, because one second I can use it as a high end recording studio for my podcast, the next second I might be using it as a laptop to type up documents or take care of emails, and then the next second it's all folded up and I might be using it as a book, a TV, a magazine, or an iPod to connect my Airpods or speakers to.

I still need a truck for some things for work--namely conference calls where I have to be sharing my screen on one monitor and looking at other stuff on another monitor. But for everything else, I have this Ferrari called the iPad Pro that is plenty powerful enough to do all the other things I need to do. It's a great device.

 

[AppleRobert]

I would give the improvements on the 10.5 at least 30-40%...

There's extra RAM (now confirmed) in the way of 4GB. There's more storage for your money and the A10X Fusion chip is supposed to be a beast although I personally have not tested anything processor intensive yet. The larger screen is superb! And the slight redesign with smaller bezels is welcome, especially since it helps accommodate the larger screen in a similar footprint. That is why I say it's at least a 30-40% improvement. I might even go as high as 50%. It's a beast!

Well I would not know all cases for what folks paid for the 9.7 pro but if it was bought at the get go for the highest price well one has spent that and this beast easily is a big upgrade for only an additional $50 for the base model.

So I would even go higher than 50% given that scenario.