I always assumed it's just OS X being so bloated ever since Lion, that shutting down would take this long (lots of house cleaning to do). On my Snow Leopard Macbook, it shuts down in a second.
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10.8.3 (and 10.8.4b?) Still slow shutdown
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I always assumed it's just OS X being so bloated ever since Lion, that shutting down would take this long (lots of house cleaning to do). On my Snow Leopard Macbook, it shuts down in a second.
Go back to 10.8.1
Is there a way to go back to 10.8.1? No problem at all for me with that version, and it's the last one with acceptable shutdown time.
Is there a way to go back to 10.8.1? No problem at all for me with that version, and it's the last one with acceptable shutdown time.
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Shutdown / reboots slooow again
Upgraded to 10.8.3 hoping to find a fix for that problem...
After the first 5-6 "almost instant" reboots, my 15" retina MBP became again slow as 10.8.2 (15-20 seconds of spinning wheel on grey screen, then shutdown).
It's a shame to have a mac that boots in 8 seconds and shutdown...in 20!!
My 2010 MBP 13" c2d with a 5400rmp HDD with snow leopard 10.6.8 reboots / shutdown in 1 second.
I don't understand.
Bye,
Andrea
Upgraded to 10.8.3 hoping to find a fix for that problem...
After the first 5-6 "almost instant" reboots, my 15" retina MBP became again slow as 10.8.2 (15-20 seconds of spinning wheel on grey screen, then shutdown).
It's a shame to have a mac that boots in 8 seconds and shutdown...in 20!!
My 2010 MBP 13" c2d with a 5400rmp HDD with snow leopard 10.6.8 reboots / shutdown in 1 second.
I don't understand.
Bye,
Andrea
Umm no it hasn't in 10.7 - 10.8.2 I went from a white screen straight to login box. Now theres this silly 3 or 4 second animation where the apple logo moves upwards, before showing the login screen
A MBP with a SSD running Mountain lion shuts down slower than a MBP with a HDD running Snow Leopard ( which is almost instant shut down). In boot up the difference is huge though ( in favor of the SSD + Mountain Lion ).
Something is wrong with Mountain Lion?
This is the thing I really don't understand!!
I have both with same softwares installed (no crap, no strange program installed, mac are both clean)... I think there's something in ML.
Bye,
Andrea
just did the update and all of my plist edits are unchanged (i.e. still set for 2 seconds). just curious, did yours change back to 20 seconds after the update? or is this a clean install?
also, i'd like to mention that after editing all these in 10.8.2:
com.apple.securityd
com.apple.coreservices.appleevents
com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication
com.apple.mDNSResponder
com.apple.diskarbitrationd
my shutdown times had significantly improved. however i was still getting an occasional 25 - 40 second stall approx 20% of the time so i changed to verbose boot mode (which also gives a verbose shutdown) to see what where exactly the stall was happening. interestingly since changing the boot args to verbose i haven't had a single slow shutdown in over a month. i have no idea if this is pure coincidence but felt it's worth mentioning.
updated to 10.8.3 today and still consistently getting 5 - 10 second shutdowns. for me this is acceptable.
10.8.1 was a very small update? I don't think it was anymore than a couple of MB on software update, but it's 24MB. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1571
I found what was causing it for me.
appleevents.plist
appleid.authentication.plist
dock.plist
securityd.plist
These and one that was apparently related to my account.
The one linked to my account was some drivers and apps for a canon printer I have never installed, so I removed the drivers and apps, fixed the above plists with the timeout fix and then booted into recovery and did a disk repair.
So far, 3-4 second shutdowns.
appleevents.plist
appleid.authentication.plist
dock.plist
securityd.plist
These and one that was apparently related to my account.
The one linked to my account was some drivers and apps for a canon printer I have never installed, so I removed the drivers and apps, fixed the above plists with the timeout fix and then booted into recovery and did a disk repair.
So far, 3-4 second shutdowns.
Just plain ridiculous my Powerbook G4 1.67 starts up and shuts down faster than my 2012 Mini, an 8 year old Laptop for ******** sake.
I don't get this at all... When I run 10.6.8 from an external HDD, my MB shuts down in 4 seconds (every time). When I run 10.8.3 from an internal SSD, the shutdown time can be seemingly randomly anything between 2 and 22 seconds
The problem is that some services don't shut down and have to be killed, if you want to see it hold Command-V at startup, this will allow you to see what the system does, when you shut down the Mac it will show text again and you'll see what's going on.
Try it.
MBAs and rMBPs are different. They go into deep sleep (move all RAM content to SSD) and drain very little battery. Not so with the original MBPs. Those drain about 1% per hr approximately while on standby because RAM is still being powered.
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I don't understand responses in this thread saying "why shut down at all" and "how does that affect you?". It doesn't matter and it's none of anyone's business how they choose to use their computer or not. If they shut down every day, so be it. If they restart into Bootcamp every day, so be it. The restart/shut down mechanism is broken and that's all that matters. 10.6 and 10.7 would shut down in a second while ML shuts down in 20. To me, that's a bug and it should be fixed regardless of how often a person shuts down or not.
And FYI, I have a mini which I almost never shut down, so the issue doesn't affect me much personally. But I'll still say it should be fixed instead of jumping on that complacent bandwagon and say "so what?".
Nothing to do with SSD. The problem exists on both SSD and mechanical drives running ML.
And even on mechanical drives, shut downs were 2-3 seconds tops on previous versions of OSX. I'm willing to bet you're not using ML.
Everyone...
1.) Reboot your machines
2.) start the "Console" app (use spotlight to find it)
3.) in the String Matching search box enter: exit timeout
It will list those processes that were "force" terminated during the last reboot because they timed out.
1.) Reboot your machines
2.) start the "Console" app (use spotlight to find it)
3.) in the String Matching search box enter: exit timeout
It will list those processes that were "force" terminated during the last reboot because they timed out.
I just did that on the rMBP in my sig (which was built in Dec 2012 & came loaded w/ 10.8.2; I updated to 10.8.3 using combo updater):
Mar 23 01:12:03 <snip>-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[136]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 23 02:03:36 <snip>-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[489]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 23 12:06:05 <snip>-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coremedia.videodecoder[1159]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Mar 23 15:28:33 <snip>-MacBook-Pro com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication[137]): Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing
Ugh. OS X really buggy now. As I said, that really reminds me of Windows where certain processes would fail complying to the shutdown signal...
You need to do this search in console under /var/log/com.apple.launchd/launchd-shutdown.system.log and not under All Messages to see what's holding up shutdown. Any other "exit timeout" errors not in this log take place during normal operation.
In my case, the usual suspects: appleevents and securityd.
Yes. Thank you for adding that. I forgot.
And speaking of appleevents... I changed my timeout thusly:
sudo launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist
sudo defaults write /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.coreservices.appleevents ExitTimeOut -int 2
sudo launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist
Except for the occasional 20 second anomaly I get about a 4 second shutdown time. It's been holding for a week or so. (Still pisses me off I have to do this though).
You are all complaining about the shutdown times. What about the time it took to investigate and write about this?