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Still has issues with excessive heat and poor battery life. You would have thought they would have fixed that by now.

Battery life is even worse than Lion.

I'm sure they'll fix it though, after all I've reported six bugs and performance issues this week.
 
Still has issues with excessive heat and poor battery life. You would have thought they would have fixed that by now.

Battery life is even worse than Lion.

I'm sure they'll fix it though, after all I've reported six bugs and performance issues this week.

Good to know; it seems like ML is EVEN crappier than I had originally thought!
 
Dangit, I wish I would have realized you were trolling before wasting my time replying to your drivel. Trolls 1, me 0.

It happens to the best of us. Lots of trolls creeping around in this sub-forum, and sadly its only going to get worse before it gets better.
 
"Double-click a window's title bar to minimize" is now gone from System Preferences > General. Shame. Was I the only one to use this?

*Edit: It appears it's moved to the Dock tab.
 
Dangit, I wish I would have realized you were trolling before wasting my time replying to your drivel. Trolls 1, me 0.

If you had any idea of my participation history here, as well the 15+ friends converted to Mac upon my advice over the last five years, you'd never say such a thing.

I am just sincerely disappointed at what ML seems to offer to customers, and the GM reports from legal or illegal users just confirm my feeling. Even speed improvements look anecdotal at best. And NO ONE here has come with valid arguments to counter the complaints I raised above...there REALLY is little more than iOS crap integrated with OS X.
 
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I just got a new HDD for my MBP. I'm thinking I should wait for Mountain Lion to come out before I install it, theres no point in downloading Lion only to install Mountain Lion days later.

What should my process be for upgrading to Mountain Lion? Should I download ML over Lion on the old HDD and then install the new one and transfer all the data?

Or should I purchase ML on the old hdd, and use ML recovery to install it on the new HDD?

Not sure what my course of action should be, any advice is appreciated.
 
I just got a new HDD for my MBP. I'm thinking I should wait for Mountain Lion to come out before I install it, theres no point in downloading Lion only to install Mountain Lion days later.

What should my process be for upgrading to Mountain Lion? Should I download ML over Lion on the old HDD and then install the new one and transfer all the data?

Or should I purchase ML on the old hdd, and use ML recovery to install it on the new HDD?

Not sure what my course of action should be, any advice is appreciated.

I would recommend (and will do myself, since I also have a new SSD):

1. clone/backup old 10.7 drive
2. download 10.8 on old drive
3. create a 10.8 USB flash drive installer (google this if you don't know how)
4. install 10.8 on old drive, then boot to make sure all is hunky dory
5. remove old drive, install new drive
6. install 10.8 on new drive (which will create a hidden recovery partition)
7. put old drive in external enclosure and copy over data
8. after lots of testing eventually erase old drive, using it for other storage
 
Well, I can say for sure, if you have Cumulus 7 or older, it won't work.

Which is a real bummer, considering that is what we use to sort our pictures at work.
 
Just repeating what I said above:

- the pathetic Airport Utility (the availability of version 5.6 notwithstanding);
- the even more pathetic OS X Server (or what remains of it);
- the less-than-ideal implementation and performance of OpenGL/GPU drivers;
- lack of built-in video codecs for Safari and QuickTime (why do I have to install the now-dead Perian for that?);
- lack of possibilities to tweak settings such as mouse polling rates (so as to avoid jumpy cursors in third-party mouses);
- resolution-independence options as referred to above - I mean, Apple has ALWAYS been at the forefront of handicapped people's needs - but now even Windows makes it easier to maximize UI elements as a whole;
- 64-bit awareness and multithreading across the board (I have EIGHT cores waiting to be used and only HandBrake or a handful of pro apps employ them!);
- basic Blu-Ray support (not that I care either, but why not?);
- dual/triple monitor unified desktop support;
- Safari memory leaks (not that I personally care with 16GB of RAM);
- iMessages' disk space bug (which ends up consuming all RAM plus all available space in the startup disk);
- better WebDAV and so on;
- a growing disregard for Apple UI standards across the board.

In other words, absolutely nothing relevant apart from iOS and Cloud-driven tweaks. No Finder revamp, no iTunes streamlining, no new file system, no expanded codec media support, no consistent UI, no new server tools. Sad to know. As for speed, Lion is already blazing fast on my iMac...so it seems to me ML should be a free upgrade.

As for major/exciting features from previous OS X versions (source Wiki):

Panther - In addition to providing much improved performance, it also incorporated the most extensive update yet to the user interface. Panther included as many or more new features as Jaguar had the year before, including an updated Finder, incorporating a brushed-metal interface, Fast user switching, Exposé (Window manager), FileVault, Safari, iChat AV (which added videoconferencing features to iChat), improved Portable Document Format (PDF) rendering and much greater Microsoft Windows interoperability;

Tiger - Among the new features, Tiger introduced Spotlight, Dashboard, Smart Folders, updated Mail program with Smart Mailboxes, QuickTime 7, Safari 2, Automator, VoiceOver, Core Image and Core Video;

Leopard - New features include a new look, an updated Finder, Time Machine, Spaces, Boot Camp pre-installed, full support for 64-bit applications (including graphical applications), new features in Mail and iChat, and a number of new security features.

Snow Leopard - Mainly performance improvements, so I won't go into that;

NOW let's look at Lion and the dismal set of new features:

Lion - It brought developments made in Apple's iOS, such as an easily-navigable display of installed applications (Launchpad) and (a greater use of) multi-touch gestures, to the Mac. This release removed Rosetta, making it incapable of running PowerPC applications...auto-hiding scrollbars that only appear when they are being used, and Mission Control, which unifies Exposé, Spaces, Dashboard, and full-screen applications within a single interface. Plus resume and versions.

ML - More iOS crap; Gatekeeper (merely sandboxing improved); Reminders, Notifications, iMessages. What else? More iOS crap.

Now look again above and check Panther and Tiger's set of features against Lion and ML's pathetic changes. Do I really need to continue?

I think you are making it look worse than it really is, but you have a point. I mean there is barely two lines of text for Quicktime QuickSync in Mountain Lion which is barely funcional with bunch of ifs and whens, but crapload of BS for some iOS feature.

Desktop OS should be about optimisations first and then about building on top of it second. Now it’s reversed. Also look at how many little new daemons we have in Mountain Lion.

It’s not a tragedy yet, but Federighi should prioritise better.
 
They are probably working on OS XI already and ML is just there to fill the gap :p
 
I just installed this on my MacBook Pro 13" (early 2011) and it works great! However I have a question. Will I be able to get all the future Mountain Lion updates Apple rolls out if I have the GM version installed?

Also, is this the same as the final official version? Or will there be changes made in the official version.

Thanks!
 
Also, is this the same as the final official version? Or will there be changes made in the official version.
The Golden Master is a Release Candidate. It will most likely be the same as the shipping version but Apple has had multiple GM builds in the past if past rumours are correct.
 
I just installed the GM build and aside from being speedier I notice very few differences between this and Lion. Gamecenter and Notifications (plus Messaging) could've easily been downloadable apps. Dictation is really good, however. Aside from that this really feels more like a service pack then an OS upgrade.
 
I just installed the GM build and aside from being speedier I notice very few differences between this and Lion. Gamecenter and Notifications (plus Messaging) could've easily been downloadable apps. Dictation is really good, however. Aside from that this really feels more like a service pack then an OS upgrade.

Good thing it's only $20 for those who actually buy it then. Have you looked over the new feature list?
 
I've had GM installed for a bit and can't seem to get notifications to work right. Anyone else experiencing this? I'll get a new email in Mail but it won't pop up in notifications but will be present in the notifications list once you click on the icon.

I have notifications enabled for mail, set as "banner".

Any thoughts?

Also, one thing I've noticed that I miss is the power management displaying "time available" instead of "percent available" for the battery. Know of any way of switching between those two?

Other than those two things I've seen so far, Mountain Lion is running pretty well! Definitely a better running Launchpad than Lion was.
 
I just installed this on my MacBook Pro 13" (early 2011) and it works great! However I have a question. Will I be able to get all the future Mountain Lion updates Apple rolls out if I have the GM version installed?

Also, is this the same as the final official version? Or will there be changes made in the official version.

Thanks!

Hmmm, I have the same MBP as you and I have a couple of issues. The startup time has shot up to around 50 seconds. Also the MBP is heating up big time on me. Do you have those issues?
 
Good thing it's only $20 for those who actually buy it then. Have you looked over the new feature list?

I have. After toying around with ML it seems to be worth the $20 upgrade. One thing I've noticed though is that the screen is dimmer. I used to have it four blocks from full and after the upgrade the same level of brightness requires it be two blocks from full. Any reason for this?
 
Hmmm, I have the same MBP as you and I have a couple of issues. The startup time has shot up to around 50 seconds. Also the MBP is heating up big time on me. Do you have those issues?

I actually feel like the battery life is worst than Lion.
 
Same here. I have yet to receive a notification.



I've had GM installed for a bit and can't seem to get notifications to work right. Anyone else experiencing this? I'll get a new email in Mail but it won't pop up in notifications but will be present in the notifications list once you click on the icon.

I have notifications enabled for mail, set as "banner".

Any thoughts?

Also, one thing I've noticed that I miss is the power management displaying "time available" instead of "percent available" for the battery. Know of any way of switching between those two?

Other than those two things I've seen so far, Mountain Lion is running pretty well! Definitely a better running Launchpad than Lion was.
 
Honestly, this release should be free. This is just a bunch of iOS apps and iCloud. Downvote.
 
Honestly, this release should be free. This is just a bunch of iOS apps and iCloud. Downvote.

$19.00 for anythin with the apple logo on it is pretty much the same thing as free :rolleyes:

ive ordered some pretty bad pizza's for more then $19.00



how ya and its optional, if you dont want those iOS apps you save your $19.00
 
Yeah, I'm pretty surprised that they're charging for this update. It seems, to me at least, that the improvements are more just revisions of what was implemented in Lion. I know notifications is new, Airplay, and Preview is a much needed upgrade, among others I'm having a hard time listing off the top of my head, but in all honesty, I could easily wait until the next OS upgrade and not feel like I'm missing a whole lot. I wish the Preview upgrades were available 3 years ago when I was taking notes on pdf's daily.

The OS does seem "quicker", but you have to keep in mind that I installed a clean install, which in computer generalities, usually should be quicker than before anyway.

We'll see. People will still buy this obviously, but I was hoping for more functionality improvements (networking with PC's is still a lot left to be desired).
 
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