It is a disappointing update. I upgrade almost every year because I get so excited with the new releases. This year no excitement whatever. They need to make all their people come back to work instead of working from home 😂.
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Other 15 Pro / Pro Max camera hardware changes are really disappointing
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When are the reviews normally out? I guess the camera proof will come out with those with early release phones.
Ironically, I probably will upgrade, but I originally planned to only if the cameras were worthwhile, but will do so now because the USB-C has the high speed (I switch around a lot of films on my device to watch while travelling) and the confirmed video out (meaning one simple usb-c to hdmi cable).
Ironically, I probably will upgrade, but I originally planned to only if the cameras were worthwhile, but will do so now because the USB-C has the high speed (I switch around a lot of films on my device to watch while travelling) and the confirmed video out (meaning one simple usb-c to hdmi cable).
So it looks like the only camera-upgrades (from iPhone14Pro -> 15pro), is some 24-megapixel mode and some modifications to the lens to prevent lens-flares?
24MP is SW only. „prevent lens flares”: maybe simply another supplier for coating. Apple is the master of marketing.
So you have one year of camera hardware improvements (13 —> 14) instead of two (13 —> 15), according to OP. You’re upgrading to last year’s camera, which may be fine for you, but OP is arguing that Apple hasn’t done much at all to improve their camera hardware in an entire year, and they’re not wrong.
I changed my preorder from the Pro Max to the Pro based on this post. I have a photography background and only use 120mm for headshots. The 77mm is my most used focal length on iPhone and I wasn’t aware it wasn’t available on the Pro Max. Thanks.
Wow if true then this is so misleading.
I watched two YouTubers who mentioned the new bigger sensors including MKBHD. Here’s the direct quote from him:
And before you suggest he’s really just talking about the Pro Max’s 5x feature, the very next sentence he says:
(See this video at 10:06.)
So did everyone, including tech bloggers, get duped here? If so WTF Apple. Shameless in their trickery to obscure lack of updates.
Absolutely agree but I hope you agree as well that these yearly or even bi-yearly upgrades are mostly status related and an absolute waste of money.
There aren’t these substantial upgrades anymore, not on Apple device and neither on Android phones.
There is a lot or marketing buzz around it and some software related exclusives features… that’s all.
The point is that you get 5x but lose the 3X zoom.
Iphone became a mature device. But it’s still the cash cow for apple. They don’t have a successor till today. Now they try it with the Vision pro. I am not optimistic here but we will see.
Virtually any cable will do for charging. More important is selecting a cable that utilises USB3 data transfer speeds.
I saw this on the Apple website and it states the same optical zoom lens as the iPhone 14 Pro, both listed as 0.5x, 1x, 2x and 3x. Is the 5x options perhaps some some software added option? I think they mentioned something about the light bouncing around in the lens. So that might mean that it is the same 3x optical zoom lens with 5x being added to that? As some where saying here that that the 3x got removed in favor of the 5x. Maybe somebody can clarify 😊
Also, as for the ultra wide and zoom lenses, these are 12MP like last year. Would those have benefitted from being upgraded to 48MP as well? Or will the 12MP quality be sufficient? Maybe this will happen next year 😄
Also, as for the ultra wide and zoom lenses, these are 12MP like last year. Would those have benefitted from being upgraded to 48MP as well? Or will the 12MP quality be sufficient? Maybe this will happen next year 😄
The 5x optical zoom is exclusive to the Pro Max model.
It’s the pro max only which gets the 5x but loses the 3x lens.
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@Torty @tzm41 Thank you so much for clarifying! So based on what I read here it might be better to still have the 3x around? Curious to see if the cameras will be better than the 14 pro. Hope the PWM won't bother me as the XS was really bad for me and I can keep the phone 🤞
For the zoom ranges above 3x on the regular pro, will it then just digital zoom to enlarge the picture further?
For the zoom ranges above 3x on the regular pro, will it then just digital zoom to enlarge the picture further?
The rumors are pointing to big camera upgrades next year with the 16 Pro/Pro Max. Looks like any camera “improvements” with the 15 Pro will be mainly software related. I guess we’ll have to wait for the reviews, especially those that focus primarily on the camera, before we can verify that the 15 Pro camera hardware is basically the same from the 14 Pro.
Yeah, if you have a 13 or 14 Pro, it looks like you shouldn’t expect much of an improvement with the camera if you decide to upgrade to the 15 Pro. The 16 Pro might be worth the wait based on the rumors. We’ll know for sure when the reviews come out and people start to get them into their hands.
This is a super interesting topic. I’m betting that the actual main camera hardware is very similar to last year but the images will be a little better due mainly to other factors.
To be quite honest, to this very day I don’t see much improvement in the pics from the 14 Pro over the 13 Pro. I actually compared today and they still are mostly indistinguishable at 12 megapixels.
What might make me upgrade is the ability to shoot Live images (3 second videos) in Portrait Mode. I shoot mainly portrait and, with 2 young kids, would love to have all those little snippets with sound to keep as memories as the boys grow up.
Live Photos are kind of a sprinkling of magic ✨ Portrait versions of those is a real meaningful update - nobody’s mentioned this yet I think. Likely made possible by the new chipset and better software.
Compressing high res Heifs whilst shooting on the 14 Pro has also be vastly improved under iOS 17. Apple have improved the software massively. 48 megapixel Heifs are produced fast and seem to be approx 9 or so megabytes - not bad really.
For my 2 cents also, I think the actual image quality produced under iOS 17 is way better. Less sharpened with a more natural appearance.
I think the user is in for some good upgrades just by updating to iOS 17 next week.
It’s funny how camera quality improvements these days seem to rely to a large extent on factors outside of the actual camera hardware. The proof of the pudding will come when real people start to report back in about a week’s time.
Exciting stuff 📸
To be quite honest, to this very day I don’t see much improvement in the pics from the 14 Pro over the 13 Pro. I actually compared today and they still are mostly indistinguishable at 12 megapixels.
What might make me upgrade is the ability to shoot Live images (3 second videos) in Portrait Mode. I shoot mainly portrait and, with 2 young kids, would love to have all those little snippets with sound to keep as memories as the boys grow up.
Live Photos are kind of a sprinkling of magic ✨ Portrait versions of those is a real meaningful update - nobody’s mentioned this yet I think. Likely made possible by the new chipset and better software.
Compressing high res Heifs whilst shooting on the 14 Pro has also be vastly improved under iOS 17. Apple have improved the software massively. 48 megapixel Heifs are produced fast and seem to be approx 9 or so megabytes - not bad really.
For my 2 cents also, I think the actual image quality produced under iOS 17 is way better. Less sharpened with a more natural appearance.
I think the user is in for some good upgrades just by updating to iOS 17 next week.
It’s funny how camera quality improvements these days seem to rely to a large extent on factors outside of the actual camera hardware. The proof of the pudding will come when real people start to report back in about a week’s time.
Exciting stuff 📸
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Most probably, the 48 Mpixel HEIFs will be as oversharpened a mess as with 12 Mpixel images now. That is, you'll still want to shoot ProRaws and convert them to something else on the desktop.