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Other 15 Pro / Pro Max heat gate ?

I have been following and observing all the threads and other platforms.

Yesterday, I received another iPhone 15 Pro Max 512GB in natural titanium, and I must say, there is no issue. The phone only became warm, not hot, when it was loading my 290GB of data.

Moreover, the phone is not overheating during calls, which was a significant problem with my previous 256GB blue titanium unit.

I don't know what the issue was, but these were the newer imported units!

Obviously, Apple has done nothing but some units are ok!
 
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ARSC said:
I have been following and observing all the threads and other platforms.

Yesterday, I received another iPhone 15 Pro Max 512GB in natural titanium, and I must say, there is no issue. The phone only became warm, not hot, when it was loading my 290GB of data.

Moreover, the phone is not overheating during calls, which was a significant problem with my previous 256GB blue titanium unit.

I don't know what the issue was, but these were the newer imported units!

Obviously, Apple has done nothing but some units are ok!
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Whenever there is a problem, we get a host of "but mine is OK" posts. No, they are all affected. People will have varying degrees of noticing, depending on how they use their phones. But the underlying, core issue exists on all of them. There is no "better" batch. Could be hardware. Could be software. Could be both. We don't know for sure yet.
 
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Rafterman said:
Whenever there is a problem, we get a host of "but mine is OK" posts. No, they are all affected. People will have varying degrees of noticing, depending on how they use their phones. But the underlying, core issue exists on all of them. There is no "better" batch. Could be hardware. Could be software. Could be both. We don't know for sure yet.
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My 15 PM is cooler than my 12 PM was.

I agree with you that there are often problems some folks just don't notice.

I simply right from the start noticed this 15PM is cooler (dramatically so in intensive tasks) than my 12PM ever was.

I'm not a fanboy and might even return mine, but not for heat reasons.
 
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Whenever there is a problem, we get a host of "but mine is OK" posts. No, they are all affected. People will have varying degrees of noticing, depending on how they use their phones. But the underlying, core issue exists on all of them. There is no "better" batch. Could be hardware. Could be software. Could be both. We don't know for sure yet.
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because it could be software, it might not affect everyone depending on use case.

if it could be hardware, it could come down to some internal part lottery more than being a binary 'works' or 'doesn't work' thing.

people who report heat, I believe. people who don't have heat problems, I also believe. people who have 'problems' and attribute it to the 'way its always been', I believe they believe their perspective :p

ymmv
 
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Rafterman said:
Whenever there is a problem, we get a host of "but mine is OK" posts. No, they are all affected. People will have varying degrees of noticing, depending on how they use their phones. But the underlying, core issue exists on all of them. There is no "better" batch. Could be hardware. Could be software. Could be both. We don't know for sure yet.
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If some chips were lower quality as I have read, then yes it could be bad patches of chips which would make those phones susceptible to higher temperatures. Apple had to increase the power to the chips which would make them run hotter and decrease battery faster.
 
Perhaps related to glass issues others have mentioned, it could be assembly of something related to heat dissipation.
 
MacDevil7334 said:
What’s interesting there is it appears regular 15 models with A16 chips are affected too. That (hopefully) points to a software bug as being the underlying cause. It at least rules out this being a A17 only problem.
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kvlq said:
if the regular 15's are also affected this means we can assume that its a software issue and not a hardware one (not A17's culprit). And that would be great news!
hope this will get fixed soon.
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And not a (hardware) problem utilizing Ti.
 
73CortinaV8 said:
Any initial indexing of photos and set up should be low priority background processes and not full blast engaging all the cores.
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I don’t know, there is an explicit macOS alert after OS upgrades/updates:

osxdaily.com

The “Optimizing Your Mac” Notification in Mac OS X Explained

Some Mac users may see a notification alert pop-up from Mac OS X in the corner of their display with a message stating “Optimizing Your Mac – Performance and battery life may be affecte…
osxdaily.com osxdaily.com

Maybe Apple needs a similar notification following setup and iOS/iPadOS upgrades/updates.
 
Did anybody try restore your iPhone from scratch? 3 years ago my phone got hot without a reason and restoring without a backup fixed it
 
PegasusTenma said:
And how did you get your files back? Trough iCloud?
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I always clean install. Everything I need comes back via icloud. Of course you have to download every app again but it gives me the opportunity to decide which apps I really need.

Photos, imessage conversations, apple watch rings etc comes back via icloud. It takes a bit longer but that's not an issue for me.
 
Thor_9 said:
The A16 models are extremely random. And I have read that apple accepted lower standard A17 chips, forcing them to increase the power to have the chips meet benchmark standards.

It’s better to wait and see what happens.
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Oh **** yes. Higher voltage stabilize the chips. There were reports that the yield of thr n3B chips are really bad. If the bad ones would get a higher voltage they would run hotter than the better ones. Oh oh
 
Does this problem persist after updating to 17.0.2?

My iPhone 11 Pro was running a little warm in the last OS release.
 
Rafterman said:
Whenever there is a problem, we get a host of "but mine is OK" posts. No, they are all affected. People will have varying degrees of noticing, depending on how they use their phones. But the underlying, core issue exists on all of them. There is no "better" batch. Could be hardware. Could be software. Could be both. We don't know for sure yet.
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I don't agree. I have two phones and both are different. My 512GB natural titanium phone does not have the same issue.

Blue titanium is only going crazy when I am on calls. I cannot hold it!
 
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a lot of complains in different countries forum, this hell fire is real.

Look like all Apple care about is selling a17 pro can play AAA game, put new 3nm tech to maximum performance but don’t care about heat. Just like a sportcar engine of course generate much more heat than normal car engine.

Expect iPhone 15 pro series battery lifespan is worse than bad reputation 14 pro series battery lifespan.
 
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I don't know how likely it is but what if it's **** thermal paste? Maybe a bad batch... Only Apple will be able to tell once they gather device info and look at their manufacturing process. If it is **** paste then not anything you can do about it unless you take it back for a replacement or void your warranty trying to fix it.

RRAMESH said:
Does this problem persist after updating to 17.0.2?

My iPhone 11 Pro was running a little warm in the last OS release.
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I've never had overheating issue. It wasn't there at launch (whatever version it was on) and it isn't here now with 17.0.2
 
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ARSC said:
I don't agree. I have two phones and both are different. My 512GB natural titanium phone does not have the same issue.

Blue titanium is only going crazy when I am on calls. I cannot hold it!
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I was a on long call this morning and couldn't feel any heat from my black 512gb pro max. battery life didn't drain much either I was impressed. It dropped only a matter of 6% from when i charged it up before work and when i checked it after the call (~2 hours). Must've only dropped 2% during the call.
 
14PM and 15 PM no experienced heat issues.

I do experience the 15PM being very fast. Much faster than the 14PM, and I had the 14PM on beta and official iOS17 release. I’m thinking the 15PM CPU might be borderline clocked too high, which is why some experience issues and some don’t.
 
My battery life is abysmal and it gets hot. Can barely touch it without a case when charging. I’ve gotten the iPhone needs to cool down message a couple of times.
Yesterday, went outside for 5 minutes (83 degree weather). Phone was in my back pocket. Pulled it out to take a picture and it said phone was warm in the camera app. It still allowed me to take the picture. But geeez
 
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