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I had a standing pre-order with fulfilment date of end-October.

Have cancelled the order until Apple can figure out what the heck is going on.

Or do what I did and order a regular iPhone 15 instead. I should get mine in about two weeks.

Except if you have some very specific photography needs the base model can't cover (and there aren't a lot of things the base model can't do), it really seems the regular iPhone 15 is a better buy this year.
 
just updated to iOS 17.1 beta and did a 20 minute phone call (using an AirPod and over wifi calling), barely warm. ill keep seeing how this goes.

Please keep us updated. I'm holding back on installing 17.1 beta 1 unless I know it actually fixes battery drain. Thank you for your sacrifice 😉
 
I just want to say for the record: neither I nor anyone else in my immediate circle of friends and family who have a new iPhone 15 Pro or 15 Pro Max have experienced any weird overheating issues. Mine got a little warm the first day, but I think it was due to indexing. It's been exactly like my last phone in terms of heat.

I saw a video yesterday that the Instagram app might be the culprit. I do really think this is probably software related for most people.
 
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Please keep us updated. I'm holding back on installing 17.1 beta 1 unless I know it actually fixes battery drain. Thank you for your sacrifice 😉

Same here! Public beta (17.1) has just been released. I do not usually install beta but will do to fix the battery drain and overheat during calls.
 

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it is curious, if not disappointing, Apple has not issued any official statement on it so far.

Speculatively perhaps they're waiting for return policy to run up?
 
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I’m not saying that 17.1 fixed it, but the differences between using my phone for phone calls this morning before and after the update seemed better so far.
I would really be interested in seeing benchmark tests with 17.1. Did they down clock or undervolt or something? Or just a bug in 17.
 

Gizmodo with the headline zinger

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it is curious, if not disappointing, Apple has not issued any official statement on it so far.

Speculatively perhaps they're waiting for return policy to run up?

I saw that earlier this morning! It's a catchy headline!
 
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Just played 20 mins of video streaming during a steamy shower and the phone actually remained cool. This is surprising as I figured streaming video would heat it up more than a 20 minute phone call.
 
I would really be interested in seeing benchmark tests with 17.1. Did they down clock or undervolt or something? Or just a bug in 17.
I ran geekbench 6 on my 15 Pro with 17.1 dev beta 1. Attached are the results. I dont know, do they changed something? During the benchmark, phone gets warm but nothing too hot.
 

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did a 2 min facetime call with screen sharing and 15 pro got a bit warm. Not crazy but you can feel it
 
To be fair I don’t think indexing getting so hot you can’t touch it is a frequent yearly occurnace

And sounds like use case is processing photos and charging the phone separately from the tweets alone
Do people not realize that phones or any new tech needs a few days to index?
David, are you an iOS developer? Do you realize that “indexing” takes about 20 minutes on modern devices thanks to flash memory and speeds? There is clearly some design difference and much more heat is expelled through rim and edge of the phone. A17 also just runs hot. I suspect Tcms wasn’t as honest with Tim as they should have been... But why did why did apple not account for this and design around it…
 
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Do you realize that “indexing” takes about 20 minutes on modern devices thanks to flash memory and speeds?
The commonly stated assertion is that it's not just making a simple index of files, but rather is going through a more intensive process of examining photos for facial recognition and doing other machine learning stuff.
 
As I wrote somewhere before - on my iP15 Pro - I notice heat just during phone calls. Other activity is OK.
 
Scenario of what happened yesterday morning. I took a drive over to a local coffeeshop to start my work day, got into a focused beat for about 30 minutes on a project. During that time I received two text messages, didn't pick up my phone but just glanced at them and finished the task I was working on. Once that was done, packed up, grabbed my bag and headed outside to my car to head home.

On the walk to the parking lot, saw a nice foliage scene and snapped two pictures within a 20 second span. As soon as I opened Photos to view them, my phone was significantly warm (I wouldn't say hot) in the upper half. No other usage before that for about 40 minutes, besides the two photos and me viewing them. My screen was somewhere around 40% brightness, I checked other apps running in the background and it was Gmail, Messages, Photos, and the Camera app.

I understand some people may not be experiencing it but do think this warming/heating up is prevalent enough that it warrants curiosity and questioning. Could it be the power of the A17 Pro chip, other activities around how the power processes activities. Idle time and then activity "ramping up?" Who knows but it doesn't sit right with me and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm hoping a software update to address whatever this could be, gets released soon.
 
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