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1Password has increased the price from something like £34 to 49.
Mine hasn't increased and it just auto-renewed this past September. Still, almost 40 dollars and looking at that invoice - its giving me a bit of a pause.

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Mine hasn't increased and it just auto-renewed this past September. Still, almost 40 dollars and looking at that invoice - its giving me a bit of a pause.

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We started using it at work, every business user gets the option of signing up for a free Family license, for the duration of their employment or as long as their employer uses it.

I used to use LastPass from around 2012 through to around 2019, but it stopped working properly on Android with Firefox, so I switched to 1Password and had, luckily, deleted my safe on LastPass before their data breach. I've always used the family version, so I've always paid for my password manager, but I now get the family account for free, which is nice.
 
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We started using it at work, every business user gets the option of signing up for a free Family license, for the duration of their employment or as long as their employer uses it.
I've been using 1PW for years, though I left to use BW, and before 1PW I had used LastPass but left that when it had one its first data breaches. I may re-review my stance with 1PW but in all honesty I have like 10 months left on my sub, doesn't make too much sense to not use it
 
I've been using 1PW for years, though I left to use BW, and before 1PW I had used LastPass but left that when it had one its first data breaches. I may re-review my stance with 1PW but in all honesty I have like 10 months left on my sub, doesn't make too much sense to not use it
Yeah, when I got 1Password signed up at work, I still had 6 months left on my family plan, but when it renewed, I didn't have to pay anything.

It was meant more as a tip, that if your employer is looking for a password safe solution, pushing then to 1Password gets you it at home for free.
 
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Yeah, when I got 1Password signed up at work, I still had 6 months left on my family plan, but when it renewed, I didn't have to pay anything.

It was meant more as a tip, that if your employer is looking for a password safe solution, pushing then to 1Password gets you it at home for free.

We had a friend visit us recently. She said her whole small company was rolling out 1Password for all their users. I wonder how common this is for companies to sponsor their employees.

In her case, though, each user was joining the company's 1Password Teams account, rather than getting their own. I known that family accounts guarantee each use a vault that only they have access to; I suspect the Teams accounts are the same. 1Password also supports attaching to multiple account, so a user could still maintain their own personal account with 1Password.

I have no idea how convenient it is to use 1Password when connected to multiple accounts. Does one have to explicitly switch accounts to choose from a particular account's passwords or all accounts visible simultaneously?
 
We had a friend visit us recently. She said her whole small company was rolling out 1Password for all their users. I wonder how common this is for companies to sponsor their employees.

In her case, though, each user was joining the company's 1Password Teams account, rather than getting their own. I known that family accounts guarantee each use a vault that only they have access to; I suspect the Teams accounts are the same. 1Password also supports attaching to multiple account, so a user could still maintain their own personal account with 1Password.

I have no idea how convenient it is to use 1Password when connected to multiple accounts. Does one have to explicitly switch accounts to choose from a particular account's passwords or all accounts visible simultaneously?
We have the business version, but for each business license you also get a family license.

I have my company account with my personal business passwords and corporate safes for different departments or uses. I then have my family account, with my private passwords and shared vaults for sharing things like Netflix with my wife.
 
We have the business version, but for each business license you also get a family license.

I have my company account with my personal business passwords and corporate safes for different departments or uses. I then have my family account, with my private passwords and shared vaults for sharing things like Netflix with my wife.

When you use 1Password, are the credentials across both accounts visible to you simultaneously, so that you can select from either account when filling in fields? Or, do you have to switch to a particular account to get access to that account's credentials?
 
When you use 1Password, are the credentials across both accounts visible to you simultaneously, so that you can select from either account when filling in fields? Or, do you have to switch to a particular account to get access to that account's credentials?
It depends. You can have both accounts open at the same time. At home I generally have the work account logged out and vice versa at work, but if I need a password from the other account, I can just click on the account, enter the master password and it is active on the device as well and I can access both accounts simultaneously.
 
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Strongbox was sold to Applause... https://strongboxsafe.com/strongbox-joins-applause/

Half a year ago they wanted to introduce their team... But where is it? Don't know if you can trust Strongbox anymore...
Already know all about it. They seem to be doing fine thus far. And it doesn't really matter since there is no alternative other than staying on 1Pv7 for life and eventually an island. LOL I've looked at everything else.
 
And it doesn't really matter
For me it does matter, as it is a Password Manager and going shady isn't a good move. Strongbox was sold to Applause since then little to no development. Made promises but didn't fulfill them and their website and apps are still saying, that Mark is the owner, which is not true...
Don't know if I would trust it anymore?!
 
1Password has increased the price from something like £34 to 49.

What I don't like Bitwarden is you have to provide your credit card details to subscribe so there is no option to do on App Store. I don't mind if they have a bit expensive price like US$13-15 on App Store as their original price is low ($10) in this case.
They also haven’t increased prices since the subscription model came out over 8 years ago.
 
I'm staying on 1PWv7 for as long as possible. Working fine with iOS/iPadOS 26 and macOS 15.7.2. So far I've seen no reason to migrate to any other apps.
 
I'm staying on 1PWv7 for as long as possible. Working fine with iOS/iPadOS 26 and macOS 15.7.2. So far I've seen no reason to migrate to any other apps.

You won't have a problem on with 1PW 7 on any version of MacOS; it is a universal binary, so it will work on both Silicon and Intel, regardless of if Rosetta 2 support gets dropped. That is why everyone on any version older than 1PW 7 are screwed.

BL.
 
You won't have a problem on with 1PW 7 on any version of MacOS; it is a universal binary, so it will work on both Silicon and Intel, regardless of if Rosetta 2 support gets dropped. That is why everyone on any version older than 1PW 7 are screwed.

BL.
I'm currently using a 2020 iMac. The main reason is that I do a lot of virtualization of Windows Server and need Intel compatibility. I'm not in the graphic/sound arts nor am I a content creator so the Mx series doesn't mean much to me right now. Plus, the ability to upgrade to 128GB of RAM for a fraction of what Apple charges is a huge plus.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to use the Mx series of computers, as my use cases would likely drive me to Windows on Intel or Linux on Intel if I have to retire this system. When/If that happens, I'll have to figure out a new password management scheme then.
 
I'm currently using a 2020 iMac. The main reason is that I do a lot of virtualization of Windows Server and need Intel compatibility. I'm not in the graphic/sound arts nor am I a content creator so the Mx series doesn't mean much to me right now. Plus, the ability to upgrade to 128GB of RAM for a fraction of what Apple charges is a huge plus.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to use the Mx series of computers, as my use cases would likely drive me to Windows on Intel or Linux on Intel if I have to retire this system. When/If that happens, I'll have to figure out a new password management scheme then.

If you are still on 1Password 7, you'll be fine. You wouldn't have to change anything. If you are not, or on 1Password 6 or lower, then you would need options.

I went with Enpass; it performs similarly to 1Password, does support multiple platforms, local vaults, and sync over WiFi, so I'm able to keep everything local to my network, versus sending any of my vault/data to a SaaS endpoint.

BL.
 
1Password has increased the price from something like £34 to 49.

What I don't like Bitwarden is you have to provide your credit card details to subscribe so there is no option to do on App Store. I don't mind if they have a bit expensive price like US$13-15 on App Store as their original price is low ($10) in this case.

Once again, I respectfully offered you information you didn't know anything about. That pissed you off enough to respond "All you are doing is misleading users". I don't care about you, but my apologies to other users who drew the conclusion that I was suggesting 1Password can function fully without access to their servers.

To more receptive readers...

The sequence of posts that lead to the build-up of JohnKree's outrage started with the simple assertion that 1Password stores credentials on their servers as well as locally.


This seems to be true and the location of the local files is known. And even though JohnKree said "That's wrong" in response to the post


I can attest that my experience is the same as that of the poster.

How can you access you cache copy offline? don't they need to confirm you have active subscription via online connection?
can you migrate the vault if you subscription expires/cancels?

It was what you are suggesting that actually screwed me over. I bought 1Password 6 off of the App Store. Because of that, and not purchasing a license through AgileBits, I couldn't migrate to 1Password 7, which which was only available at 1Password.com, due to not having that license, despite having purchased a legal copy of their product. With 1Password 7 being the last version to support local vaults, I had no valid upgrade path to get to 1Password 7, especially with Apple moving from Intel to Silicon (1Password 6 was an Intel binary).

In the next 1-2 years, Apple will be dropping Rosetta 2 support, as the last Intel Macs produced will be transitioning to being obsolete, which would kill my ability to run 1Password 6, so I'd be screwed from running 1Password 6, plus no way to get to upgrade and keep my local vault. If I had bought 1Password 6 directly from AgileBits and not through the App Store, I would not have this problem.

BL.

tbf, a lifetime license means the software as is. While i do believe there should be at least 3-5 years free upgrade but a deal is a deal. You can't migrate to 1password 7/8 even if you subscribe via Agilebits?

My 1Password subscription was renewed this week, and 1st time without discounts.
I'm ok with the price, but of couurse I've definitely appreciated the discounts that I've got.
I'm pretty sure it will some different discounts in the future as well.

Paying approx. what I pay for 1,5 kg quality espresso-beans, for having 1Password subs/year and what I appreciate with that app, is worth it as well as my espressos 😋

There is to it more than price. Security, trust, storing you password in their servers, and business behaviour. But if 1password is what you like then its worth it.

1Password has increased the price from something like £34 to 49.

What I don't like Bitwarden is you have to provide your credit card details to subscribe so there is no option to do on App Store. I don't mind if they have a bit expensive price like US$13-15 on App Store as their original price is low ($10) in this case.


-Where you getting this price increase? I checked their website the annual is $28(£21) , maybe its a British tax thing?

-use pre-paid credit card, its like $10 a year. Thats what i use. Further more, Bitwarden is SaaS for businesses and not concentrated on consumer because thats where their money comes from, so I do not assume Businesses buy off "App Store" not to mention the 30% cut of Apple
 
So as you know 1Password is forcing you to the subscription model which is something I refuse to pay for a simple piece of software that is basically a glorified password protected spreadsheet file browser. I am fed up of subscription model and greedy companies that abuses it. I have already paid license which I believe was $60 twice for an upgrade making the total $120.
I've been using 1Password for several years and remember when it was a standalone product without the subscription. When they released the sub-based version, I was contemplating dumping their app but I was an Apple employee at the time so they gave me a free subscription for 3 years. When I left Apple, I realized it was time to choose another product or just pay the yearly fee. Since I am a single user, the cost was only $35 for the year and I just ended up staying with it. I did manage to export most of my frequently used accounts/passwords to Apple's Passwords app and that has been pretty good so far but I will probably continue with 1Password just because of the familiarity of the interface and having been a long time user. If they increase the yearly fee any higher for a single user....I'll move on.
 
How can you access you cache copy offline? don't they need to confirm you have active subscription via online connection?

They don't need to confirm that. The 1Password application doesn't require access to their servers to function.

can you migrate the vault if you subscription expires/cancels?

This is an interesting question. I assume you mean migrate to a different product. I think that would depend on the import tools of the product you're moving to.

I can do a full export of all of my 1Password local vaults without any access to their servers. The export is a zip file containing the documents you've saved to your vaults as well as a text file containing structured content of everything else. All of that can easily be used as the source of an import to another product. If I were to write an import tool for my own password manager, I would use this exported data as the source.

I'd be interested to know whether any product someone is migrating to actually depends on a connection to the 1Password servers to import the data. I would think the 1Password servers would detect the connection from unauthorized software and prevent access.
 
I am so with you on that. A ton of people would have stayed with them if they would have allowed local vaults as they always did. But between the subscriptions and no local vaults, both NO's for me, it forced a lot of users out.

I am moving, over time, to Strongbox. Which is the only real solution to replace what I have with 1Password. I've read every page of this discussion as it happened. It has been a long ride.

May I ask why you picked Strongbox over Enpass? Enpass was/is the closest thing to 1PW6

It depends. You can have both accounts open at the same time. At home I generally have the work account logged out and vice versa at work, but if I need a password from the other account, I can just click on the account, enter the master password and it is active on the device as well and I can access both accounts simultaneously.

do both accounts have the same master password you just turn them ON/OFF , or each account has a different master password?

If you are still on 1Password 7, you'll be fine. You wouldn't have to change anything. If you are not, or on 1Password 6 or lower, then you would need options.

I went with Enpass; it performs similarly to 1Password, does support multiple platforms, local vaults, and sync over WiFi, so I'm able to keep everything local to my network, versus sending any of my vault/data to a SaaS endpoint.

BL.

- I do not think you can go with 1PW7 forever, at some point some OS upgrade will break something in 1pw7, security risks, and no autofill which is pretty darn important at least for me.

-Enpass is my second/backup manager, one thing I worry about is because they are a smaller guy in the market is if some data leak/error happens that risk my passwords OR they might be doing some funny spying in the background which you can not deny nor confirm on proprietary apps. maybe I am paranoid?
 
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Security, trust, storing you password in their servers, and business behaviour.

Only the business behavior weighs on me. I will not discount that some people feel betrayed by 1Password changing course after a promise was made.

Everyone using standalone local vaults should be storing their vaults offsite. Some of us on this thread make a practice of physically moving their vault to another location. I suspect that's rare and it's certainly inconvenient since a backup would have to be transported frequently. In the old days of the standalone 1Password, my vault was kept on Dropbox. It's hard to quantify, but this feels less secure than 1Password's servers. Dropbox is a major target since so much confidential (and unencrypted) information is kept there. I've always counted on the security of the vault itself, not where it's stored.

Is there anyone on this thread not storing their vaults offsite? One could make a case that the odds are very low that you won't have your phone with you if you're house goes up in a fire. That reasoning would scare me since so much of my life depends on all the credentials I have.
 
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tbf, a lifetime license means the software as is. While i do believe there should be at least 3-5 years free upgrade but a deal is a deal. You can't migrate to 1password 7/8 even if you subscribe via Agilebits?

You can migrate to 1Password 7 or 1Password 8, but they are both subscription only. And even if you did get to 1Password 7, you couldn't purchase a standalone license to run your own vaults locally (they disabled/torn down/removed the servers provisioning standalone licenses). Everything is now subscription, with your vaults stored on 1Password's servers. There is no way to have 1Password 7 and a local vault unless you purchased the license when those provisioning servers were live.

- I do not think you can go with 1PW7 forever, at some point some OS upgrade will break something in 1pw7, security risks, and no autofill which is pretty darn important at least for me.

In a sense, you could. For what it's worth, as long as I keep my MBA on Sierra, I could run 1Password 6 forever. I can only assume that the same could be said for 1Password 7 going forward, with it being a universal binary. If something in the OS breaks that universal binary, since Agilebits did EOL 1Password 7, then it obviously would be broken.. but that leaves the user stuck on that last working version of MacOS until the Mac gets moved to obsolete (I say the Mac and not the OS, because while you wouldn't get any other security updates for the OS, the application would still work). So in a sense you could run it forever, but there are some caveats with associated security risks. User beware.

-Enpass is my second/backup manager, one thing I worry about is because they are a smaller guy in the market is if some data leak/error happens that risk my passwords OR they might be doing some funny spying in the background which you can not deny nor confirm on proprietary apps. maybe I am paranoid?

It's everyone's right to be paranoid when it comes to things like that. But it is also those same reasons why I wouldn't trust data that sensitive to be stored outside my control. That's why the biggest feature I would require is the ability to have local vaults and sync between those vaults locally (over WiFi, ethernet, etc.) That said, if there is something in the code phoning home and sending personal data to them, then that is a major problem, but I don't see anything in the documentation or in the application that is doing that.

That said, the paranoia is justifiable.

BL.
 
For me it does matter, as it is a Password Manager and going shady isn't a good move. Strongbox was sold to Applause since then little to no development. Made promises but didn't fulfill them and their website and apps are still saying, that Mark is the owner, which is not true...
Don't know if I would trust it anymore?!
They would be shooting themselves in the foot if it is a security issue. Don't forget they have invested money into the apps. Mark is there in the background if they need anything. Plus, it is a supported app unlike 1P7.

They have pushed out several updates this year and I am not seeing any sky falling issues, thus far. If a new version came out and there were issues, then that would be different but so far there have been no changes that are a problem that I know of. They have the same licenses and versions.

Applause may have learned from the past. Time will tell.
 
do both accounts have the same master password you just turn them ON/OFF , or each account has a different master password?

I use a different master password (long, complex and totally different makeup) for each account. I keep them distinctly separate and I keep all work passwords in the work vault.

Until the end of last year, we didn't have a password vault at work, I managed to get them to go with 1Password, after testing a few others, including BitWarden, which was a very close run second, but the pilot group all found 1Password easier to use (2 of the 5 had BitWarden at home and they said that 1Password was more user friendly). Before we got 1Password, I used my private account for work passwords. Afterwards, I simply went through my personal vaults and moved all the work related ones to my work vault (click on entry, click move, select destination vault, done).

One of the reasons I tend to only work with one active is adding new passwords, if you aren't paying attention, you can add them to the wrong vault. Moving them after the fact is easy, but it is better to get them in the right vault to start with.
 
Only the business behavior weighs on me. I will not discount that some people feel betrayed by 1Password changing course after a promise was made.

Everyone using standalone local vaults should be storing their vaults offsite. Some of us on this thread make a practice of physically moving their vault to another location. I suspect that's rare and it's certainly inconvenient since a backup would have to be transported frequently. In the old days of the standalone 1Password, my vault was kept on Dropbox. It's hard to quantify, but this feels less secure than 1Password's servers. Dropbox is a major target since so much confidential (and unencrypted) information is kept there. I've always counted on the security of the vault itself, not where it's stored.

Is there anyone on this thread not storing their vaults offsite? One could make a case that the odds are very low that you won't have your phone with you if you're house goes up in a fire. That reasoning would scare me since so much of my life depends on all the credentials I have.
I used to keep them in local vaults (E.g. KeePass back in the early to mid 2010s) and stored the file on multiple USB sticks and a version was also in my Carbonite backup.

But I moved to cloud vaults years ago, mainly because I needed the passwords on my home computer, my work computer, my private phone, my work phone, my private tablet and my work tablet... Trying to keep that lot replicated wasn't practical.
 
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