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maflynn said:
That doesn't look like it will be integrated into my browser like other password managers. I don't need a CLI to access the passwords, I need a service that allows integration into a browser
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And the more important part of that is what you said earlier, why put your eggs all in one basket anyway? If there is an issue with your iCloud account, you would be totally SOL. I will never use Apple Passwords, and I have Apple everything.
 
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maflynn said:
Just got the email detailing the price increase - definitely not worth 48 dollars annually. Looks like its time to go back to bitwarden.
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I also just got that email. It's a big increase. But, substantial inflation is a real thing and I don't fault them. I was an early adopter of the family plan, so I have extra seats. The increase will cost me $2 each month. If I move off of 1Password it will be for different reasons than the price increase.
 
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I also just got that email. It's a big increase. But, substantial inflation is a real thing and I don't fault them. I was an early adopter of the family plan, so I have extra seats. The increase will cost me $2 each month. If I move off of 1Password it will be for different reasons than the price increase.
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I thought it was until I broke it down. For me, it's $1 a month increase, and they have't had an increase in 10 years. Name something that hasn't gone up in 2 years let alone 10 years.
 
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Regardless of time since last price increase, this is still a 33% price increase all at once. It’s a good thing my social security income increased 33% as well this year to accommodate 1Password. /s

It’s also nice that overall inflation this year has increased a mere 1.7% yet the things I actually eat, drink, use have all gone up well into double digit percentages. And then there’s 1Password. Buh-bye.
 
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I'm reviewing Proton Pass. I currently have the upper tier proton plan, that includes this, since I'm paying for it, I might as well check it out.

Going to chatgpt, and asking it to list the similarities/differences of 1password, bitwarden and proton pass yielded some surprising results, though I shouldn't be surprised. They largely offer the same exact features, though proton pass includes email aliasing and it seems to be built into their app.

I'm not advocating for any of those, other then my planned departure (yes this is an airport 😛) of 1password.
 
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maflynn said:
I'm reviewing Proton Pass. I currently have the upper tier proton plan, that includes this, since I'm paying for it, I might as well check it out.

Going to chatgpt, and asking it to list the similarities/differences of 1password, bitwarden and proton pass yielded some surprising results, though I shouldn't be surprised. They largely offer the same exact features, though proton pass includes email aliasing and it seems to be built into their app.

I'm not advocating for any of those, other then my planned departure (yes this is an airport 😛) of 1password.
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I also have a Proton subscription to Proton Unlimited. My only reservation was that my one experience with support didn't go well. The problem was the limited understanding of the support agent over the many email exchanged. It's not damning evidence that I wouldn't get better support if I had password problems.

My next billing date is in October and I am currently leaning towards cancelling and just subscribe to Proton VPN. I am still debating renewing unlimited just to support the company. They have a compelling mission.
 
svenmany said:
I also have a Proton subscription to Proton Unlimited. My only reservation was that my one experience with support didn't go well. The problem was the limited understanding of the support agent over the many email exchanged. It's not damning evidence that I wouldn't get better support if I had password problems.
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Good point, I'll still be comparing how bitwarden works, along with proton pass. I'll see which one better fits my workflow
 
SalisburySam said:
Regardless of time since last price increase, this is still a 33% price increase all at once. It’s a good thing my social security income increased 33% as well this year to accommodate 1Password. /s

It’s also nice that overall inflation this year has increased a mere 1.7% yet the things I actually eat, drink, use have all gone up well into double digit percentages. And then there’s 1Password. Buh-bye.
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I've said this a few times. 1Password has been the same price since 2016, so I've been paying $59.88 for the family plan for 10 years. $59.88 in 2016 in today’s inflation is $81.15 (the new price is $71.88... $9.27 cheaper over inflation). It's hard because it was a big jump at one time. Yes it went up, but people need to figure out inflation the correct way in the situation.
 
The inflation part is totally correct, but otherwise 1Pw isn't the cheapest on the market and to increase pricing for private users is a hard point for many... And many of them do not use all the features 1PW does have.

So I think it is really ok to maybe switch somewhere else.
 
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I didn’t get this yet but it looks like 1Password is back tracking. Maybe it’s only related to the family plan. Regardless I’m largely looking to rip get off of 1Password
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Looks like in the reddit thread, Agilebits keeps stirring up dissension
https://www.reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/1rdmphv/price_increase
Hey everyone! We hear the concerns about AI, especially when it comes to privacy and security. That’s completely fair. We want to clarify and be very transparent about how this specific feature actually works.

We use AI internally to help create and maintain a reference list of common websites, things like primary URLs, login URLs, and human-readable names. This work happens entirely on our own systems, not on your device. That information is compiled into a static database. When you create a new login item in the browser extension, 1Password simply checks that database and applies the appropriate readable name. For example, it might label a login “American Airlines” instead of “aa.com” or “AA.” That’s what the AI-powered item naming feature (launched in 2024) actually is, essentially a smart lookup table that makes saved items clearer and easier to find.

Importantly, this doesn’t access or analyze your vault, your data stays end-to-end encrypted, nothing from your vault is sent to any AI systems, and no external AI services or large language models are involved.

We know AI raises important questions, especially when it comes to security and privacy. Our approach is intentionally limited and privacy-respecting, designed to improve usability without ever touching your vault data. Happy to answer follow-ups.
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The use of AI in their products is further alienating its customer base, though this sort of thing will be the new normal for most companies.
 
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I am sick of AI being pushed on us. I think what they are doing will back fire on them.
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If the reddit thread is any indication, they're losing business. With that said, reddit, much like MacRumor's is not your typical userbase, and so agilebits is counting on most people not noticing the price increase, or caring about the AI stuff.

Reading through that thread, the complaints is mostly centered at the significant price hike for no useful features, existing bugs not being dealt with and the ******tification of the product, which was bound to occur due to the subscription model
 
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It leaves me baffled to see that people who want to move away from 1Password and don't actually have any special requirements aren't taking the opportunity to use a privacy-friendly, open-source alternative like gopass or KeePassXC instead of the next "cloud" solution hosted on other people's computers and priced at their whim (Proton, Bitwarden, ...).
 
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taking the opportunity to use a privacy-friendly, open-source alternative
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I'd say that most consumers, prosumers, hobbyists and businesses really don't care about open source as a platform.

All they want is a product that fulfills their needs, and in 1PW's case, if they feel they are not longer getting value our of the 1PW given the higher cost, there they will move to a competitor - just my opinion
 
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maflynn said:
I'd say that most consumers, prosumers, hobbyists and businesses really don't care about open source as a platform.
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I'd say that most consumers, prosumers, hobbyists and businesses would still prefer a platform that does not hold their passwords hostage with a ransom. Paying other people for watching your passwords is a weird decision in the first place.
 
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I'd say that most consumers, prosumers, hobbyists and businesses would still prefer a platform that does not hold their passwords hostage with a ransom. Paying other people for watching your passwords is a weird decision in the first place.
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And yet, here we are, where people are doing just that
 
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