1Password migrants thread

[maflynn]

I'm inputting it into the password manager, and saving it. I sync that between my devices, back it up, and store that backup offsite. That way I have their data for what they need as a backup in case they lose it. In effect, I'm their disaster recovery.

I know you already addressed the question regarding this paragraph but I wanted to just convey this is why I prefer cloud based systems. If there's a manual step needed ensure data integrity and consistency then there's a risk that it will break down over time. I'm speaking from experience with my job where we made strides to automate tasks and steps related to server and enterprise configurations and maintenance. If I have to do x steps on y servers on a weekly basis, then there's a good chance something is going to get missed. Likewise from my own experience I ran into issues with personal vaults. Your process works for you and I'm not doubting it, but what I'm saying is for me, it would be better for a cloud based solution

This thread has been rather hostile towards AgileBits from the beginning, people continuing to use 1p may feel uncomfortable since the implication is that they support poor business practices

I was to a large extent a 1PW supporter, maybe even defender, and I think for the most part the responses to my posts have been civil and respectful. I have since decided to move on from 1PW, not because people convinced me of Agilebit's evil ways but rather looking at how Agilebits conducted themselves with regard to customer support, and what it offers for 36 dollars a year. There's a lot I like about 1PW, but what I cannot get past is how they've treated their community. For the most part they've apologized and have stated they handled it wrong, but that apology took too long and rings a little hollow especially when it seems their new export file is somewhat proprietary and/or harder for some competitors to use.

For about a 1/3 of the annual price of 1PW, I get Bitwarden which for my usages has a better user experience. I lose out in multiple vaults and to some degree their password reports on whether my passwords were comprised weak or copied. I get similar reports for the paid version of Bitwarden but I think the quality and polish is higher with 1PW. At this point I feel like that Bitwarden with its focus on the customer and its software being peer reviewed is a better fit.

 

[maflynn]

LastPass hacked again, just so you guys know…

At least, LP doesn’t seem to be on anyone’s radar as a 1P replacement.

As noted by others they're stating its not a breach on their system - I don't know what it is, but its a bad look. I had tried them briefly but their prior breaches and also their move to force users into a subscription scared me away.

Either way its really bad press for them, and even if its not a true breach, they will lose customers, because no matter how you slice it, LastPass users are seeing their passwords stored there compromised.

 

[MisterSavage]

For about a 1/3 of the annual price of 1PW, I get Bitwarden which for my usages has a better user experience. I lose out in multiple vaults and to some degree their password reports on whether my passwords were comprised weak or copied. I get similar reports for the paid version of Bitwarden but I think the quality and polish is higher with 1PW. At this point I feel like that Bitwarden with its focus on the customer and its software being peer reviewed is a better fit.

Pretty much exactly how I felt also. It's really weird that with BW you can only do some things, such as compromised passwords reporting, from the web vault. The polish with 1PW was undoubtedly better but I've come to realize that's not really important to me. The vast majority of the time the functionality of BW has been the same or better for me.

 

[einsteinbqat]

Is it true that unless you use Safari iOS/macOS, Codebook doesn’t auto fill? Does it auto fill on Windows?

 

[maflynn]

but I've come to realize that's not really important to me

For me, I asked how often am I going into the app or the website. I use the chrome plug-in all day every day, so that's where it matters the most to me and for that I feel BW performed better then 1PW. The only thing I miss is the software license categorization

 

[MisterSavage]

For me, I asked how often am I going into the app or the website. I use the chrome plug-in all day every day, so that's where it matters the most to me and for that I feel BW performed better then 1PW. The only thing I miss is the software license categorization

Exactly! The only time I used the BW desktop client was when I was cleaning up my data after migrating from 1PW. I never even launch the desktop client now because I'm always using the extension instead, which I also feel performs better than 1PW's did. Hopefully software licenses are one of the new item types coming in the first half of 2022.

 

[Huntn]

Is it true that unless you use Safari iOS/macOS, Codebook doesn’t auto fill? Does it auto fill on Windows?

No. It has a function called secret agent, which for non-Safari/iOSbrowsers and Windows, by default is a 3 key combo to pull up, but I use a 2key combo, so when I am in windows (I have a windows version of Codebook) and I have something I need to log in to, I pull up the appropriated browser log-in page, I hit the Codebook Secret Agent key combo, which makes a Codebook page open with a search window, I start to type, so for example if I was trying to log into Apple, I'd type "Ape..." and matches pop up. I choose Apple.com and tell codebook to fill in the windows. (Just using that as an example as I do have my Apple login info memorized. ) Most of my serious computer work other than graphics is on my MBP, so this setup works fine for me. And although it is not as convenient using Secret Agent, this fulfills my needs on Windows, where I'm not logging into things as nearly as often as I do on my Mac.

I'm also thrilled that for this case, I have resisted the subscription monster that has taking computer users by the throat, shaking them upside down to empty their pockets.

 

[bsmr]

Hopefully software licenses are one of the new item types coming in the first half of 2022.

Here you can find their roadmap:

 

[MisterSavage]

Here you can find their roadmap:

Thank you, but I've actually posted that image in this thread earlier.

 

[einsteinbqat]

No. It has a function called secret agent, which for non-Safari/iOSbrowsers and Windows, by default is a 3 key combo to pull up, but I use a 2key combo, so when I am in windows (I have a windows version of Codebook) and I have something I need to log in to, I pull up the appropriated browser log-in page, I hit the Codebook Secret Agent key combo, which makes a Codebook page open with a search window, I start to type, so for example if I was trying to log into Apple, I'd type "Ape..." and matches pop up. I choose Apple.com and tell codebook to fill in the windows. (Just using that as an example as I do have my Apple login info memorized. ) Most of my serious computer work other than graphics is on my MBP, so this setup works fine for me. And although it is not as convenient using Secret Agent, this fulfills my needs on Windows, where I'm not logging into things as nearly as often as I do on my Mac.

I'm also thrilled that for this case, I have resisted the subscription monster that has taking computer users by the throat, shaking them upside down to empty their pockets.

Thanks!

So, the keyboard shortcut calls for a sort of pop up window in which you look for the credentials that you want to use, and then click on the fill button?

 

[Huntn]

Thanks!

So, the keyboard shortcut calls for a sort of pop up window in which you look for the credentials that you want to use, and then click on the fill button?

It’s a Codebook search window, type a couple of letters, matches pop up, pick one and it will insert the appropriate info. As I recall, it has a trial to check it out.

 

[bradl]

It’s a Codebook search window, type a couple of letters, matches pop up, pick one and it will insert the appropriate info. As I recall, it has a trial to check it out.

It does. 15 day trial, but the days aren't consecutive. Codebook counts a day as a day when you open the application. For example, I downloaded the trial version on the first week of December. I've only opened it 6 times in 6 non-consecutive days. Opening it today, the application tells me that I still have 9 days left in the trial.

BL.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

This thread has made me think. I've been a Lastpass subscriber for years. I've liked it. So I started doing some research and am wondering if anyone has tried sticky password. Supports on device DB, Cloud sync is an option. So is wifi sync. Can run on Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android. Browser plugins for every major browser and then some. Import /export. Free version and subscription model but they have a lifetime subscription too. And you can buy the lifetime elsewhere for a good deal less than what they sell it for.

I'm tempted to try it. Just wondering if anyone else has looked.

Best password manager and free password safe | Sticky Password

Stop forgetting passwords now. With our free password manager, you can log in securely, autofill forms in a second, and use your passwords wherever you go.

www.stickypassword.com

I came across them yesterday and started researching. I am curious why everyone here is not talking about Sticky Password as it seems to check so many boxes that people have been asking for, yet no one is talking about them which seems strange to me.

They have a free model for individuals, or a reasonablly priced subscription model, or a one time lifetime payment model. So all bases seem to be covered there.

You can store and sync your data in the cloud, or keep it on your device and use wifi sync.

It’s got both a client app as well as broswer extensions if you want.

It’s cross platform.

You can share passwords with others if need be.


That seems to cover most of the things people have wanted in a password manager. So......why aren’t we all talking about them??? Is there some reason? ?

 

[bradl]

I came across them yesterday and started researching. I am curious why everyone here is not talking about Sticky Password as it seems to check so many boxes that people have been asking for, yet no one is talking about them which seems strange to me.

They have a free model for individuals, or a reasonablly priced subscription model, or a one time lifetime payment model. So all bases seem to be covered there.

You can store and sync your data in the cloud, or keep it on your device and use wifi sync.

It’s got both a client app as well as broswer extensions if you want.

It’s cross platform.

You can share passwords with others if need be.


That seems to cover most of the things people have wanted in a password manager. So......why aren’t we all talking about them??? Is there some reason? ?

Yes. Have you seen the price for Lifetime? Ouch.

BL.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

Yes. Have you seen the price for Lifetime? Ouch.

BL.

Yes. They have a deal on it. Not bad at all. No ouch. Although I am not sure how much the deal really is for. When I look on my ipad, it’s half price, making it $100 total. Amortized over multiple years that’s not bad. But if I look on my phone it’s a very different story...$30 for the lifetime license. Perhaps that’s an error but it literally says $170 in savings. ?‍♂️

 

[bradl]

Yes. They have a deal on it. Not bad at all. No ouch. Although I am not sure how much the deal really is for. When I look on my ipad, it’s half price, making it $100 total. Amortized over multiple years that’s not bad. But if I look on my phone it’s a very different story...$30 for the lifetime license. Perhaps that’s an error but it literally says $170 in savings. ?‍♂️

The problem there is if you take the current price of Codebook, you're looking at $10 for iOS, and $20 for Mac and PC.

If I compare that to, say, Enpass, you're looking at a 1-time $60 price to work across every device. All of this being lifetime.

I get that prices may vary, but if looking at the initial face value, $199 for a lifetime license for something we can get also for $60 or even $20 definitely causes a doubletake.

BL.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

The problem there is if you take the current price of Codebook, you're looking at $10 for iOS, and $20 for Mac and PC.

If I compare that to, say, Enpass, you're looking at a 1-time $60 price to work across every device. All of this being lifetime.

I get that prices may vary, but if looking at the initial face value, $199 for a lifetime license for something we can get also for $60 or even $20 definitely causes a doubletake.

BL.

Depends on the features. Codebook from what I have seen seems to be single user oriented. I can’t even find any references to family password sharing on their website. I do see an enterprise option, so perhaps a different version can support more than 1 user? I don’t really know. All I know is they don’t talk about it. Sticky Password does. It’s built for sharing passwords. You can set what the other person can even do with the password, or revoke the permissions. Can I do that with Codebook? ?‍♂️ Don’t know. If they don’t even mention it, it doesn’t sound like a priority for them.

 

[bradl]

Depends on the features. Codebook from what I have seen seems to be single user oriented. I can’t even find any references to family password sharing on their website. I do see an enterprise option, so perhaps a different version can support more than 1 user? I don’t really know. All I know is they don’t talk about it. Sticky Password does. It’s built for sharing passwords. You can set what the other person can even do with the password, or revoke the permissions. Can I do that with Codebook? ?‍♂️ Don’t know. If they don’t even mention it, it doesn’t sound like a priority for them.

Ahh. That does indeed change everything. If something like Codebook, Enpass, Strongbox, etc., are all targeting the single end user, while Sticky Password supports the commercial end user in a shared environment. That changes the target user and their requirements, which can justify their price point.

BL.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

Ahh. That does indeed change everything. If something like Codebook, Enpass, Strongbox, etc., are all targeting the single end user, while Sticky Password supports the commercial end user in a shared environment. That changes the target user and their requirements, which can justify their price point.

BL.

So after months of debate I made my decision last night upon the eve of my 1 password plan expiration. Took advantage of the $30 lifetime subscription offer for Sticky Password which apparently they don’t do often. It seems to meet my needs. I like the look and feel of it and spending a one time $30 for a lifetime license was way preferable to spending $200 for it, or an endless subscription every year. I would have also had to pay the same or even more for Codebook on all the platforms we use in my house. And what I really don’t like about Codebook is it’s harder to find info or videos on it compared to virtually all the other password managers that get talked about here. I didn’t like that.

Plus, I even helped out an endagered species, the Manatees. ?

 

[grandM]

The more I read about the cost, dangers and caveats of a password manager the more I consider going full apple.

 

[bradl]

The more I read about the cost, dangers and caveats of a password manager the more I consider going full apple.

Or you can go it alone. You can get a password manager application and store the vault containing those passwords and other sensitive data yourself.

In short, there are issues with the Cloud.

• LastPass, Dashlane, and many others have shown that.
• There are security issues and implications with storing your passwords and other sensitive data with cloud providers/SaaS providers. That's one of the things that started this thread to begin with.
• There are legal implications to consider with cloud providers/SaaS providers. That has been discussed many times in this thread.

But the one way to eliminate those and still retain the power and functionality you get with password managers is to store the data yourself. That is an option that people really should consider, as it is not relatively a good idea to sacrifice your security and safety of your property and access to your sensitive information for convenience.

BL.

 

[MisterSavage]

Plus, I even helped out an endagered species, the Manatees. ?

Thank you for helping those cute sea cows!

The more I read about the cost, dangers and caveats of a password manager the more I consider going full apple.

Nothing wrong with that!

 

[chickenpiccata]

I came across them yesterday and started researching. I am curious why everyone here is not talking about Sticky Password as it seems to check so many boxes that people have been asking for, yet no one is talking about them which seems strange to me......

That seems to cover most of the things people have wanted in a password manager. So......why aren’t we all talking about them??? Is there some reason? ?

I didn't see any way to import passwords from 1Password on a Mac. Sticky Password on the Mac seems only able to import from Apple's Keychain. Did I miss something?

 

[toasted ICT]

I didn't see any way to import passwords from 1Password on a Mac. Sticky Password on the Mac seems only able to import from Apple's Keychain. Did I miss something?

I cannot help you with Sticky Password, but there are a number of comments in this thread about problems getting all your data back from 1Password And my own experience is that its 1passwords lock in limitations that thwart most efforts.
Suggest take a look at this
Post in thread '1Password migrants thread'
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1password-migrants-thread.2307443/post-30528369

 

[aevan]

I still use 1Password - I purchased iOS and Mac versions a long time ago, and I still have legacy plans, so I haven't subscribed and they work great. Now, I hear 1Password 8 for Mac will be Electron (but they put a lot of effort to make it feel native) and I know the Safari iOS extension requires a sub. I will probably just subscribe, it's $3 a month for a very valuable app.

I'm not sure why this is so outrageous, it's a good value for money considering you get the apps for all platforms. As a bonus I will also be able to use 1Password on my PC as well.

I just checked LastPass and the sub price is the same.

Look, I use 1Password for passwords, secure notes with codes, software licenses, and as a 2fa generator. These are important things. For $3 a month. Am I really going to experiment with alternatives (who I know little about) for such important things, to save a few dollars? Also, am I going to spend my time on researching these alternatives? Then spend my time transferring all my passwords to another service that, for all we know, might also switch to a subscription model at some point? Not doing that. 1Password has, so far, been reliable and trusted and their price is reasonable.